That's the problem with Gillis.black ace wrote: Im doubtfull Gillis would do that to a guy weeks away from his no trade kicking in though.
He's too nice of a guy.
And everything filters down from the top.
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That's the problem with Gillis.black ace wrote: Im doubtfull Gillis would do that to a guy weeks away from his no trade kicking in though.
Great points Ace.black ace wrote:I would look at trading him if it returned a young top 6 center and a bottom pair defenceman. Move tanev up to a top 4 role with Hamhuis,Bieksa,Garrison.
Philly would be a good fit as they have a couple of young centers but they just picked up Streit so...
Im doubtfull Gillis would do that to a guy weeks away from his no trade kicking in though.
Amen brother.Strangelove wrote:That's the problem with Gillis.black ace wrote: Im doubtfull Gillis would do that to a guy weeks away from his no trade kicking in though.
He's too nice of a guy.
And everything filters down from the top.
Yeah, real smart move Spidey. Just keep taking shots at rikster, the guy who singlehandedly defeated Thinker in open combat.Arachnid wrote:I want to call you the pRikster but you totally agree with me so I will spare you my venomRoyalDude wrote:Is this breaking news? Gillis not wanting to trade Edler? It's not rocket science here. Probably one of the few things I give Gillis thumbs up on. If you are trading Edler you best be upgrading the hole he leaves behind and I am sorry, Keith Ballard is not it. LMAO! You are talking like Yandle, Weber, Subban, Myers, if you are looking for an upgrade. If you are not replacing Edler with that what is the fucking point? Most trade proposals proposed by a lot of folks here in what we should get in return for Edler is a forward or a top pick in this years draft? How the fuck does that deal with the hole by trading Edler has created? That is unless everyone wants an anemic defense like the Oilers, and we have all seen how far that gets you. Defense is King in the new NHL people, I wouldn't call our defense so fucking good and deep that trading Edler and not replacing him is a fucking option here.
Edler ain't going nowhere.
Edler stays!
Me and 7 others ????? I think it was me and 3 others.Rumsfeld wrote:Great points Ace.black ace wrote:I would look at trading him if it returned a young top 6 center and a bottom pair defenceman. Move tanev up to a top 4 role with Hamhuis,Bieksa,Garrison.
Philly would be a good fit as they have a couple of young centers but they just picked up Streit so...
Im doubtfull Gillis would do that to a guy weeks away from his no trade kicking in though.
You know I had almost forgotten you won the BC Lions CC pool a few years ago. But then I saw your sig and I was like, "Oh yeah, black ace won the BC Lions CC pool like three years ago".
Pretty sweet man.
I bet that really rubs the salt in for the other seven people involved in that pool, wherever they are. Way to stick it to 'em buddy.
Richard, Rik, Rickey, they' are all Dicks to me. So what if my old mans name is the same. He was an asshole, a thug. He chased away good people too.Passive aggressively. Take care...is not a signature of hope, it it is a curse of mediocrity, a sign that the status quo cannot be changed, it is unacceptable. Much like a Canuck fans journey...how would you like if every response from GM MG was to Take Care...?Rumsfeld wrote:Yeah, real smart move Spidey. Just keep taking shots at rikster, the guy who singlehandedly defeated Thinker in open combat.Arachnid wrote:I want to call you the pRikster but you totally agree with me so I will spare you my venomRoyalDude wrote:Is this breaking news? Gillis not wanting to trade Edler? It's not rocket science here. Probably one of the few things I give Gillis thumbs up on. If you are trading Edler you best be upgrading the hole he leaves behind and I am sorry, Keith Ballard is not it. LMAO! You are talking like Yandle, Weber, Subban, Myers, if you are looking for an upgrade. If you are not replacing Edler with that what is the fucking point? Most trade proposals proposed by a lot of folks here in what we should get in return for Edler is a forward or a top pick in this years draft? How the fuck does that deal with the hole by trading Edler has created? That is unless everyone wants an anemic defense like the Oilers, and we have all seen how far that gets you. Defense is King in the new NHL people, I wouldn't call our defense so fucking good and deep that trading Edler and not replacing him is a fucking option here.
Edler ain't going nowhere.
Edler stays!
When it's all over don't expect any PMs from me telling you I miss you.
Take frigging care.
Uh no, that's just silly.Reefer2 wrote: First Edler's point comes off playing the minutes he does and the 1st unit PP. Any D man taking over those minutes would probably have many of the same points. It is like many players who have success, it is not just based upon them alone but being in the right place at the right time.
Edler isn't Jack Johnson, he's miles better. Trading Edler for an offensive forward doesn't guarantee the Canucks score more or keep possession of the puck more. Despite his flaws and underwhelming play at times over the past year and half, Edler has been a positive contributor to the Canucks on the whole, so trading him would mean you have to find someone who will replace Edler's contributions plus add something extra to be worthwhile.Reefer2 wrote: What good is having any offensive D when your forwards cant keep the puck or cant score. Right now our offense if the problem and Edler is just 1 piece we have to trade to get the help this team needs.
Ultimately the problem is that there are no young players in the system that will replace what Edler brings. Trading Edler is robbing Peter to pay PaulReefer2 wrote:
What good is having any offensive D when your forwards cant keep the puck or cant score. Right now our offense if the problem and Edler is just 1 piece we have to trade to get the help this team needs.
Great comparison, except Edler is 27.Mondi wrote: I remember the team kept hoping for Naslund and Bertuzzi to regain the magic, and it never happened. They waited about 12 to 18 months too long. I hope that mistake is not repeated with this core.
I love flowery language that means sweet fuck all.Mondi wrote: Sure, the Twins will likely come back and have a good year this coming season, and Kesler will probably be leaps and bounds better with an injury free summer. But, the team is clearly stale. So stale that a new coach alone will not be sufficient to purge the musty odor emanating from Roger's Arena.
What's irrational about saying trading Edler for the sake of shaking things us isn't necessarily a good idea?Mondi wrote: An irrational attachment to guys who have been here a long time has been this team's downfall before. No reason to keep the core in tact when you study the result over the past 3 seasons.