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The Russian collusion, the side deal Trumps campaign made with Russian intelligence in assisting his campaign in winning the Presidency is as obvious as shit. Wiki Leaks was the go between pawn between the two parties which is why getting Stone to break is important, that was his department, but he’s steadfast

The Trump Tower in Moscow is the golden goose (rewards for the scheme among other side deals between Trump and Putin) where all parties were to benefit from

The problem is, can Mueller prove this. We all know its truer than true but can it actually be proven?

If he can fuckin hell, this will make watergate look like petty theft. The Russians - America’s no. 1 enemy, assisting Trump, in dirtier than dirty ways, in gaining the oval office. History made. Will be talked about for centuries. Putin is an evil mother, him and Trump a match made in hell

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:09 am The Russian collusion, the side deal Trumps campaign made with Russian intelligence in assisting his campaign in winning the Presidency is as obvious as shit. Wiki Leaks was the go between pawn between the two parties which is why getting Stone to break is important, that was his department, but he’s steadfast

The Trump Tower in Moscow is the golden goose (rewards for the scheme among other side deals between Trump and Putin) where all parties were to benefit from

The problem is, can Mueller prove this. We all know its truer than true but can it actually be proven?

If he can fuckin hell, this will make watergate look like petty theft. The Russians - America’s no. 1 enemy, assisting Trump, in dirtier than dirty ways, in gaining the oval office. History made. Will be talked about for centuries. Putin is an evil mother, him and Trump a match made in hell

Russia did not make up the content of the Podesta emails.

Topper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:30 pm

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:09 am The Russian collusion, the side deal Trumps campaign made with Russian intelligence in assisting his campaign in winning the Presidency is as obvious as shit. Wiki Leaks was the go between pawn between the two parties which is why getting Stone to break is important, that was his department, but he’s steadfast

The Trump Tower in Moscow is the golden goose (rewards for the scheme among other side deals between Trump and Putin) where all parties were to benefit from

The problem is, can Mueller prove this. We all know its truer than true but can it actually be proven?

If he can fuckin hell, this will make watergate look like petty theft. The Russians - America’s no. 1 enemy, assisting Trump, in dirtier than dirty ways, in gaining the oval office. History made. Will be talked about for centuries. Putin is an evil mother, him and Trump a match made in hell

Russia did not make up the content of the Podesta emails.

This is about Trump not Hilary.

Topper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:30 pm

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:09 am The Russian collusion, the side deal Trumps campaign made with Russian intelligence in assisting his campaign in winning the Presidency is as obvious as shit. Wiki Leaks was the go between pawn between the two parties which is why getting Stone to break is important, that was his department, but he’s steadfast

The Trump Tower in Moscow is the golden goose (rewards for the scheme among other side deals between Trump and Putin) where all parties were to benefit from

The problem is, can Mueller prove this. We all know its truer than true but can it actually be proven?

If he can fuckin hell, this will make watergate look like petty theft. The Russians - America’s no. 1 enemy, assisting Trump, in dirtier than dirty ways, in gaining the oval office. History made. Will be talked about for centuries. Putin is an evil mother, him and Trump a match made in hell

Russia did not make up the content of the Podesta emails.

So, enlighten me. What was so damning about them?
Well, apart from revealing that the democrats did not take cyber security as serious as they should.
At least the feds saw no reason to prosecute.

Also interesting that the first batch was released from wikileaks 30 minutes after the release of the Access Hollywood tapes...

Coincidence? I think not.

Podesta's emails were hacked by Fancy Bear, which has been traced to the Russian Military Intelligence, distributed by Wikileaks, and coordinated with the Trump campaign for maximum effect.

I've also always wondered about Comey's reopening of the closed investigation just days before the election, and then after the election it was closed again. That maneuvre, which broke FBI protocol, probably cost Hillary the election.

Who or what was it that made Comey hand the election to Trump, only to then turn around and try to prove that Trump had colluded?

Cohen got three years, in part for paying off the Don's mistresses to shut them up and thus influence the election.
Flynn is up next week.

Eventually they'll work their way up to the capo di tutti capi.

It's a great sign that the US democracy is essentially sound; the judiciary branch is still independent and still taking its job seriously. Very encouraging!

President Donald Trump on Wednesday ordered the complete withdrawal of America’s 2,000 troops in Syria — a decision that seemed to surprise everyone, including his own administration.

And neither the Pentagon nor the State Department seems to have any idea what is supposed to happen next.

One senior administration official told me that “US forces will continue the fight against ISIS.” A spokesperson for the State Department didn’t say anything about forces continuing to fight in Syria, and instead directed me to the Pentagon and the White House for answers.

When I asked another senior administration official during a press briefing Wednesday whether US airstrikes or other military operations would still continue in Syria once ground troops leave, the official directed me to the Pentagon.

And when another reporter asked when US troops might return home, the official simply replied: “It’s not that I’m not telling you, it’s that I don’t know, quite frankly.”

In short, this is a clusterfuck.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/12/19/18 ... w-decision

If you read Woodward's book (which I recommend you to), this seems to be a pattern with Trump.
People in his administration are arguing for different lines of action. The president gets frustrated that the same problem is discussed over and over again, and then suddenly randomly announces a decision without having it properly vetted by people in the know.

In this case, "That's it, I'm fed up with Syria, I'm taking all the troops home!"
I suspect he may have some sort of ADD or something. Why else all these rash decisions that go over the head of those responsible, when he has all kinds of expertise within armslength reach?

I mean, bringing home the troops without talking to the pentagon or the state dept? Sheesh! That's cold.

And the US military estimates there are still some 30,000 ISIS fighters in Syria and Iraq...
Seems a bit premature.

I guess that means Russia can call all the shots now, which in turn mean the US allies in Syria are screwed. Remember, while both the US and Russia oppose ISIS, the Russians are allied with Syrian dictator Assad, while the US is allied with the democratic opposition. With the US gone, Assad can claim victory and hang the opposition leaders from the nearest lamppost.

Per wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:46 pm President Donald Trump on Wednesday ordered the complete withdrawal of America’s 2,000 troops in Syria — a decision that seemed to surprise everyone, including his own administration.

neither the Pentagon nor the State Department seems to have any idea what is supposed to happen next.

I guess that means Russia can call all the shots now, which in turn mean the US allies in Syria are screwed. Remember, while both the US and Russia oppose ISIS, the Russians are allied with Syrian dictator Assad, while the US is allied with the democratic opposition. With the US gone, Assad can claim victory and hang the opposition leaders from the nearest lamppost.

I guess that leaves the line in the sand as Russia/Iran/Syria/ vs US/ Israel/ Saudi/GCC - Qatar

The question though is this move a payoff for Putin’s help in getting him elected?

Mad Dog resigns.
Can't blame him.

Guess the Syria decision was the last straw.

So... with him gone... Is there anyone left in the administration?
I mean, anyone with at least a hint of integrity and competence?

Seems the Trump administration has a higher staff turnover than that apprentice show.

Here are some of those who have left, probably not a complete list:

Sally Yates - acting attorney general - fired in January 2017

Michael Flynn - national security adviser - resigned in February 2017

Katie Walsh - deputy White House chief of staff - transferred to a Republican activist group in March 2017

James Comey - FBI director - fired by Trump in May 2017

Michael Dubke - White House communications director - resigned in May 2017

Walter Shaub - head of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics ( sort of a Swiss admiral, I guess) - resigned in July 2017

Sean Spicer - White House press secretary - resigned in July 2017

Reince Priebus - chief of staff - fired by Trump in July 2017

Anthony Scaramucci - White House communications director - fired by Trump in July 2017 (after 10 days on the job)

Stephen Bannon - Trump's chief strategist - fired by Trump in August 2017

Tom Price - Health and Human Services secretary - quit in September 2017

Richard Cordray - CFPB director -quit in November 2017

Omarosa Manigault Newman - assistant to the president - quit in December 2017

Rob Porter - White House staff secretary - resigned in February 2018

Hope Hicks - White House communications director -resigned in February 2018

Gary Cohn - National Economic Council director - resigned in March 2018

Rex Tillerson - secretary of state - fired by Trump in March 2018

Andrew McCabe - deputy FBI director - fired by Sessions in March 2018

H.R. McMaster - national security adviser - replaced in March 2018 by John Bolton

David Shulkin - Veterans Affairs secretary - resigned in March 2018

Scott Pruitt - Environmental Protection Agency chief - quit in July 2018

Don McGahn - White House counsel - quit in August 2018

Nikki Haley - U.S. ambassador to the United Nations - announced in October that she'd quit in December 2018

Jeff Sessions - attorney general -resigned in November 2018

Matthew Whitaker - acting attorney general - Trump announced in December 2018 that he will be replaced by William Barr

John Kelly - White House chief of staff - will quit in December 2018

Ryan Zinke - Interior Secretary - will leave in December 2018

And now Mad Dog Mattis - Defence Secretary - resigned in December 2018

Guess they must have fitted the White House with revolving doors...

The Mr. Duck said the market was doing great under him.

https://ca.yahoo.com/finance/news/marke ... nance.html

Per wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:23 pm Here are some of those who have left, probably not a complete list:

Sally Yates - acting attorney general - fired in January 2017

Michael Flynn - national security adviser - resigned in February 2017

Katie Walsh - deputy White House chief of staff - transferred to a Republican activist group in March 2017

James Comey - FBI director - fired by Trump in May 2017

Michael Dubke - White House communications director - resigned in May 2017

Walter Shaub - head of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics ( sort of a Swiss admiral, I guess) - resigned in July 2017

Sean Spicer - White House press secretary - resigned in July 2017

Reince Priebus - chief of staff - fired by Trump in July 2017

Anthony Scaramucci - White House communications director - fired by Trump in July 2017 (after 10 days on the job)

Stephen Bannon - Trump's chief strategist - fired by Trump in August 2017

Tom Price - Health and Human Services secretary - quit in September 2017

Richard Cordray - CFPB director -quit in November 2017

Omarosa Manigault Newman - assistant to the president - quit in December 2017

Rob Porter - White House staff secretary - resigned in February 2018

Hope Hicks - White House communications director -resigned in February 2018

Gary Cohn - National Economic Council director - resigned in March 2018

Rex Tillerson - secretary of state - fired by Trump in March 2018

Andrew McCabe - deputy FBI director - fired by Sessions in March 2018

H.R. McMaster - national security adviser - replaced in March 2018 by John Bolton

David Shulkin - Veterans Affairs secretary - resigned in March 2018

Scott Pruitt - Environmental Protection Agency chief - quit in July 2018

Don McGahn - White House counsel - quit in August 2018

Nikki Haley - U.S. ambassador to the United Nations - announced in October that she'd quit in December 2018

Jeff Sessions - attorney general -resigned in November 2018

Matthew Whitaker - acting attorney general - Trump announced in December 2018 that he will be replaced by William Barr

John Kelly - White House chief of staff - will quit in December 2018

Ryan Zinke - Interior Secretary - will leave in December 2018

And now Mad Dog Mattis - Defence Secretary - resigned in December 2018

Guess they must have fitted the White House with revolving doors...

Here are some of those who left the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, probably not a complete list:

Jay Carney-press sectretary-5/30/2014

Eric Shinseki-veterans affairs sectretary-5/30/2014

Kathleen Sebelius-health and human services-4/2014

Keith Alexander-director of nsa-10/2013

Loris Lerner-ran the Irs-9/2013

Ray LaHood- secretary of trasproation-7/2013

Jill Sommers-commissioner of the CTFC-7/2013

Ken Salazar-US secretary of the Interior-7/2013

Lanny Breuer-Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division of the US-4/2009

Lisa Jackson-Administrator of the US EPA-2/2013

Leon Panetta-Secretary of defense-2/2013

Janet Napolitano-HLS-1/2013

Hillary Clinton-Secretary of State-2/2013

Tim Geithner- US Treasury Secretary-1/2013

Mary Schapiro-Chairman of the SEC-12/2012

David Petraeus- Director of the CIA-11/2012

William Daley-Chief of Staff-1/9/2012

Dennis Ross- senior adviser to Obama on the Middle East and Iran-11/2011

Reggie Love-Obama personal assistants -end of 2011

Melody Barnes-Domestic Policy Council Director-end of 2011

Jen Psaki-White House deputy communications director-9/2011

Vivek Kundra-first chief information officer-8/2011

Michael Leiter- director of US National Counterterrorism - 7/2011

Austan Goolsbee-White House council of economic advisers-6/6/2011

Bob Bauer-counsel to the President- 6/2011

Bill Burton-deputy press secretary-2/16/2011

Sean Sweeney-White House political adviser-2/16/2011

Ron Klain- Chief of Staff to VP Biden- 1/2011

Ron Klain- Coordinator for the Executive Office of the President - 2/2015

Glenn Fine-Justice Department Inspector General- 2/2011

Gen. James L Jones-National Security advisor-10/8/2010

Rahm Emanuel-Chief of staff-1/2009

Lawrence H Summers- Director of the National Economic Council - 12/2010

Peter R Orszag-director of the office of management and budget-7/2010

Christina Romer- Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers - 9/2010

Gen. David McKiernan- Commander, International Security Assistance Force - 6/2009

Ellen Moran-communication director- WH Director of Communications - 4/2009

Gregory Craig- White House Counsel - 1/2010

Robert Gates-secretay of defense-2011

Chuck Hagel-secretary of defense-2015

Eric Holder-attorney general-2015

Gary Locke-secretary of commerce-2011

John Bryson-secretary of commerce-2012

Hilda Solis-secretary of labor-2013

Arne Duncan-secretary of education-2016

Shaun Donovan-secretary of HUD-2014

Steven Chu-secretary of energy-2013

Michael Cheretoff-secretay of hls-2009

William Daley-Chief of staff-2012

Jack Lew-chief of staff-2013

Sylvia Burwell-director of the office of management and budget-2014

Susan Rice-ambassador to the UN-2013

Ron Kirk-US trade representative-2013

Katherine Archuleta-director of the office of personnel management-7/2010

Margaret Hamburg- commissioner of the food and drug adm-2/5/2015

Jennifer Palmieri-Obama communications director-spring 2015

Dan Pfeiffer-chief strategists-3/2016

Marilyn Tavenner-center for Medicare and Medicaid serves-2/2015

Julia Pierson-secret service director-10/2014

Shirley Sherrod-dept of argiculture-2010

Gen. Stanley McChrystal-commander of Us force in AFG-6/2010

Desiree Rogers-white house social sectretary-11/2009

Suzanne Barr-HLS-9/1/2012

Jofi Joseph- National Security Council aide- 10/2013

Jon Favreau-speechwirter-03/2013

Tommy Vietor-speechwriter-12/2016

P.J. Crowley-state department spokesman-2011

Yosi Sergant- national endowment for the arts-9/2009

Tom Daschle- nominated, Secretary of HHS - 2/2009

Guess they must have fitted the White House with revolving doors...

Exactly Doc, turnover is part of the game, especially after midterms. Happens in every administration these days.

Can’t help but notice some of the dates on docs list... Obama assumed office in 2009.

“Normal” LOL.

Obama = 8 years

Donald Duck = 2

Island Nucklehead wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:40 pm Can’t help but notice some of the dates on docs list... Obama assumed office in 2009.

Okay, I corrected the dates on a couple and deleted one... happy?