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[Strangelove]

[Strangelove]

https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1 ... 7243396097

Jemele Hill
@jemelehill

If you vote for Donald Trump, you are a racist. You have no wiggle room.

9:19 AM · Jul 19, 2020

"That's right Jemele! Yo mama ain't black!" - Creepy Joe Biden

[Strangelove]

Sniffy Joe Biden at Muslim voters summit today:

"I wish we taught more in our schools about the Islamic faith"




Pervy Joe Biden next week:

"If you don't vote for me, you ain't Muslim!"

[Per]

Sniffy Joe Biden at Muslim voters summit today:

"I wish we taught more in our schools about the Islamic faith"

Key word is about. He doesn’t want them to teach the Islamic faith, he wants them to teach about the Islamic faith, and I couldn’t agree more.

There are a lot of misconceptions about Islam, and basically about most religions. Spending a bit more time in school teaching comparative religious studies could help reduce tension in society between different religious groups.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are just three branches of the same basic religion, Abrahamian and yet they are constantly at each others throats. Better education could be instrumental in bringing greater understanding between them.

[5thhorseman]

I'm going to take back my prediction of Trump winning 2020.

It sure looks like he's getting increasingly desperate with attempts to deflect away from covid, race relations, and the economy (which was supposed to be his strength but he has now fucked up). And now his pseudo-military force has come up against the "wall of moms"; there can be only one winner there. It's going to be interesting to see what transpires in Chicago and Detroit, which are next.

Trump is starting to circle the drain.

[Strangelove]

Sniffy Joe Biden at Muslim voters summit today:

"I wish we taught more in our schools about the Islamic faith"

Key word is about. He doesn’t want them to teach the Islamic faith, he wants them to teach about the Islamic faith, and I couldn’t agree more.

Yeahno, Pedo Joe doesn't actually want them to teach about Islam, career politician was lying through his false teeth for votes...

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are just three branches of the same basic religion, Abrahamian

You keep saying this even though they've been fighting each other to death for millennia, but I guess folks believe what they want to believe.

[Strangelove]

I'm going to take back my prediction of Trump winning 2020.

No take backs!

And lucky for you, cuz this is your chance to be right for once.

[Per]

“Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech … or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Something terrible, something dangerous — and, yes, something unconstitutional — is happening in Portland, Ore. It must be stopped.

“Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14,” reports Oregon Public Broadcasting. “Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.”

The report continues: “The tactic appears to be another escalation in federal force deployed on Portland city streets, as federal officials and President Donald Trump have said they plan to ‘quell’ nightly protests outside the federal courthouse and Multnomah County Justice Center that have lasted for more than six weeks.”

Of course, authorities — and we’ll get to the matter of what authorities in a bit — have the power to prevent violence. But that doesn’t seem to be what’s happening in Portland, where nightly protests have been taking place since early June. Law enforcement agents aren’t targeting protesters who engaged in violence; they appear to be sweeping up random people who have exercised their rights under the First Amendment.

Like Mark Pettibone, 29, who was heading home in the early hours of Wednesday morning when, according to The Post’s Katie Shepherd, “several men in green military fatigues and generic ‘police’ patches sprang out of an unmarked gray minivan.” Pettibone was detained, searched, driven to the federal courthouse, placed in a holding cell and read his Miranda rights against self-incrimination. He declined to waive them. And then, about 90 minutes later, he was released.
“I just happened to be wearing black on a sidewalk in downtown Portland at the time,” Pettibone told Oregon Public Broadcasting. “And that apparently is grounds for detaining me.”

This is not America.

As much as I revile what President Trump is doing to the country, I have not been among the alarmists who warn of incipient authoritarianism, of festering fascism. I believe — I have believed, anyway — in the rule of law; the steadfastness of the courts, even larded with Trump-appointed judges; the strong tradition of the U.S. military refraining from being used to serve partisan interests. But to have watched live as federal agents attacked peaceful protesters near Lafayette Square, and now to read the reports from Portland, is to worry: Perhaps that was over-optimistic.

This is not America because of the First Amendment, quoted above. It is not America because we are a federal system, something you would think Republicans, who supposedly believe in states’ rights, understand and respect. So we are a country in which governors can summon federal help, are authorized to call out the National Guard — not a country in which unbadged federal police are loosed upon innocent citizens of a state over the objections of its governor. In this case, Oregon Gov. Kate Brown, joined by Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, who have beseeched the feds to leave.

Yes, President Dwight D. Eisenhower deployed federal troops to Arkansas. That was to protect black students attempting to integrate Central High School in Little Rock, and to enforce a federal court order. It was to protect the students’ constitutional rights, not undermine them.

“This political theater from President Trump has nothing to do with public safety,” Brown, a Democrat, said in a statement. “Deploying federal officers to patrol the streets of Portland” is “a blatant abuse of power by the federal government,” she said, adding that Chad Wolf, acting secretary of homeland security, who visited the city on Thursday, “is on a mission to provoke confrontation for political purposes. He is putting both Oregonians and local law enforcement officers in harm’s way.”

Wolf, for his part, said Portland “has been under siege for 47 straight days by a violent mob while local political leaders refuse to restore order to protect their city. Each night, lawless anarchists destroy and desecrate property, including the federal courthouse, and attack the brave law enforcement officers protecting it.”

But Wolf’s list of terrible depredations allegedly committed by the Portland protesters was less than convincing — and, in any event, in no way justified the kind of random, unprovoked arrests that have been described. The tally from July 15:

• Violent anarchists doxed members of federal law enforcement.

• Violent anarchists attempted to damage the Hatfield Courthouse by throwing objects at it and spray painting it. Numerous fireworks were also lit.

• Violent anarchists trespassed on federal property and destroyed a card reader at the Justice Center.

There is a difference between solving a legitimate problem (the destruction of public property) and picking a political fight. Trump, understandably terrified of losing reelection, appears intent on doing the latter. “A federal courthouse is a symbol of justice — to attack it is to attack America,” Wolf thundered in his statement.

But there is a more important symbol of justice than a brick-and-mortar building.
It is called the Constitution. To ignore it is to attack America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 1VQbo4DkV0

[Strangelove]

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^ Thanks for the opinion of a fully-indoctrinated pinko there Per.

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

Obviously, these violent anarchists are anything but peaceable... is this a joke?

"Trump is picking a political fight"

Yeahno, twas the Dem mayor and Dem governor "picking a political fight"

... by getting the local cops to back off and allowing the mayhem to continue.

Trumpy-poo was wise to wait 2 full months before finally responding with federal police.

The dirty Dem rulers in cities across the nation were hoping he's respond right away.

Then they would have said: "SEE... he's a fascist maniac!!"

But nope, the Donald waited until the public got beyond the point of 'enough is enough'.

4-D chess.

[rats19]

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^ Thanks for the opinion of a fully-indoctrinated pinko there Per.

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

Obviously, these violent anarchists are anything but peaceable... is this a joke?

"Trump is picking a political fight"

Yeahno, twas the Dem mayor and Dem governor "picking a political fight"

... by getting the local cops to back off and allowing the mayhem to continue.

Trumpy-poo was wise to wait 2 full months before finally responding with federal police.

The dirty Dem rulers in cities across the nation were hoping he's respond right away.

Then they would have said: "SEE... he's a fascist maniac!!"

But nope, the Donald waited until the public got beyond the point of 'enough is enough'.

4-D chess.

Thanks for having the stamina to continue the conversation Doc, I just can’t believe the blindness indoctrinated into the left.

I would just put them on ignore, but then that makes me part of the problem right.... geez Louise

[Per]

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are just three branches of the same basic religion, Abrahamian

You keep saying this even though they've been fighting each other to death for millennia, but I guess folks believe what they want to believe.

Absolutely! A problem with monotheism is that it tends to be interpreted as that there is only one true way, and all others must therefor be wrong.

There has been a lot of fighting between these three branches, but often even fiercer within them.

There was the purging of gnostics within the Christian church.
There was the split between West Rome and East Rome that caused the divide between the Orthodox and Catholic church.
There was the Muslim expansion.
There was the split between Shia and Sunni as a result of disagreement over who should lead Islam after Muhammadks death.
There were the Crusades.
There were pogroms against Jews as the Christian church in Europe claimed they spread the Black Death.
There was the reconquista in Spain, forcing all Muslims and Jews to convert, leave or be killed.
There was the 30 Year War between Catholics and Lutherans.
There were more pogroms for whatever reason.
There was the Holocaust.
The creation of Israel then lead to an increase in anti-Judaism in the Middle East, where Jews earlier had been able to seek refuge from persecution from Christians. Not so anymore.
There were The Troubles in Northern Ireland.
Then in the aftermath of the Iraq War the creation of Isis has lead to persecution of everyone who is not Sunni by this group. They especially target Shia Muslims, but basically all other faiths in the region has come under attack, leading to the Christian minorities in both Iraq and Syria attempting to flee to Europe.

Yeah. It’s a mess.

But please note, there has been at least as much violence within each branch as between them.

Well, possibly with an exception for the Jews. The persecution they have suffered from Christians, culminating in the Holocaust, dwarfs anything they’ve done between themselves, and the Muslims keep threatening to go ballistic on them as well, but don’t really have the means to. Yet there used to be outright wars between the nations of Juda and Israel, and even today ultraorthodox Jews in Israel throw stones at cars driven during the sabbath by the more liberal minded Jews.

[Per]

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^ Thanks for the opinion of a fully-indoctrinated pinko there Per.
"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"
Obviously, these violent anarchists are anything but peaceable... is this a joke?

Did you read about them rounding up people for just walking down the street in black clothes?

I’m sure there are violent protesters. They should be arrested.

But rounding up peaceful protesters is a violation of the first amendment.
As this article points out. Did you even read it?

Oh, and the pinko remark is way off, considering that socialists don’t really fully support the right of peaceful assembly.
But I know you like to resort to name calling when you feel cornered, so I’ll let it slide...

"Trump is picking a political fight"

Yeahno, twas the Dem mayor and Dem governor "picking a political fight"
... by getting the local cops to back off and allowing the mayhem to continue.
Trumpy-poo was wise to wait 2 full months before finally responding with federal police.

So..... you’re saying you don’t believe in states’ rights?

... the Donald waited until the public got beyond the point of 'enough is enough'.

4-D chess.

The Don doesn’t even have the brains for regular checkers!

[Strangelove]

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^ Thanks for the opinion of a fully-indoctrinated pinko there Per.
"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"
Obviously, these violent anarchists are anything but peaceable... is this a joke?

Did you read about them rounding up people for just walking down the street in black clothes?

I’m sure there are violent protesters. They should be arrested.

But rounding up peaceful protesters is a violation of the first amendment.
As this article points out. Did you even read it?

Of course I read it.

Have you read the feds saying all the folks they've picked up in this operation were suspected of violent crimes?

They've said that rather than escalate things when a hundred rioters are busy rioting

... they've identified and then waited to take these suspects in at a more opportune time.

Didn't you notice how selective they've been in who they pick up?

"just walking down the street in black clothes"

I remember when you used to study both sides of an argument...

Oh, and the pinko remark is way off, considering that socialists don’t really fully support the right of peaceful assembly.

Depends on your definition of "pinko" and again, this has been anything but "peaceful assembly".

"Trump is picking a political fight"

Yeahno, twas the Dem mayor and Dem governor "picking a political fight"
... by getting the local cops to back off and allowing the mayhem to continue.
Trumpy-poo was wise to wait 2 full months before finally responding with federal police.

So..... you’re saying you don’t believe in states’ rights?

Not at all, there are states' rights and feds' rights.

Although in this situation I'd say it's become more of a duty for the feds to step in than just a right

... while conversely the states have been derelict in their duty.

[Strangelove]

Jews. The persecution they have suffered from Christians, culminating in the Holocaust, dwarfs anything they’ve done between themselves

Please tell me you're not blaming Christians for the Holocaust.

[Per]

Jews. The persecution they have suffered from Christians, culminating in the Holocaust, dwarfs anything they’ve done between themselves

Please tell me you're not blaming Christians for the Holocaust.

You say it were the Muslims?!

Not all Christians, of course. Some Christians seemed to understand the teachings of Christ and opposed it, but the widespread antisemitism in Europe was based on Christian church dogma, and the church had persecuted the ”perfidious Jews” since the Middle Ages. The Holocaust was just the logical conclusion.