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Sure, I can see how you could interpret my words that way, if you take them out of context. Removing the context is a classic straw man tactic. Let's just revisit my statement for a second:Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:46 pmLook at your words above, can you see how someone could take them the way I did?5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:19 am But you're saying, with no caveats, without any other context, that I don't care whether Biden, the whistleblower, or the Dems in general (not sure where you got the Dems from, actually) are crooked. That's your straw man there, my friend.
And I didn't call you a Dem, I said you didn't seem to care about the crimes of some Dems involved in this.
What we have here is... failure to communicate.
No strawman here buds...
Clearly my opinion of the whistleblower here is only in connection with the report to the ICIG. I wasn't saying that the whistleblower did nothing wrong; only that anything he might have done wrong is irrelevant to the matter at hand (the report to the ICIG).Even if the whistleblower had ulterior motives, isn't all that matters is whether the activity he brought to light is true and whether it warrants impeachment? The whistleblower could have acted on Biden's direction for all I care; it doesn't affect the truth (or not) of whether Trump committed impeachable acts.
You just took the bolded part of my statement out of context, and turned it into your bolded statement below ...
Plus you throw in the Dems, even though I never mentioned "the Dems" at all in my post.Now let me get this straight 5th...
You desperately want Lord Trump investigated because you care about truth, justice, and the American way
... but you don't give a flying fuck how crooked Prez-candidate/ex-VP Joe, the whistleblower, and the Dems may be!
Anyways, enough wrangling over tedious tidbits. I can see how you're often accused of twisting words.
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They would've had to jump ditches on zero ave to just drive into the US accidentally, there's more to it than what is being said
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Exactly. In the 1980's my folks lived on 0 Ave, not a large ditch, but one you'd know you hit if you crossed it.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:17 pmThey would've had to jump ditches on zero ave to just drive into the US accidentally, there's more to it than what is being said
First saying they were separated, then they are a family....something screwy.
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
Bullshit.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:30 amSure, I can see how you could interpret my words that way, if you take them out of context. Removing the context is a classic straw man tactic. Let's just revisit my statement for a second:Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:46 pmLook at your words above, can you see how someone could take them the way I did?5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:19 am But you're saying, with no caveats, without any other context, that I don't care whether Biden, the whistleblower, or the Dems in general (not sure where you got the Dems from, actually) are crooked. That's your straw man there, my friend.
And I didn't call you a Dem, I said you didn't seem to care about the crimes of some Dems involved in this.
What we have here is... failure to communicate.
No strawman here buds...
What I said was that you didn't seem to give a shit about whether or not the whistleblower was allegedly crooked and spreading vile lies
... and you didn't seem to give a shit about whether the whistleblower was allegedly working with Joe to obstruct an investigation into Joe.
As I said:
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...................................................................Strangelove wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:43 pm What Strawman? 5th has plainly stated a couple of times he doesn't care if Biden and the whistlebower are crooked!
"The concerns with whistleblowers potential motivation is just griping and grasping at straws" - 5th
"Even if the whistleblower had ulterior motives, isn't all that matters is whether the activity he brought to light is true and whether it warrants impeachment? The whistleblower could have acted on Biden's direction for all I care…" - 5th
The "concerns with the whistleblower's potential motivation" were that he was lying through his teeth.
You called those concerns "just griping and grasping at straws".
You then went on to say you "don't care" if the whistleblower was in cahoots with the Bidens.
No Virginia , I did not take anything "out of context", there was no "strawman" created...
You clearly "didn't give a flying fuck how crooked Joe, the whistleblower, and the Dems may be" (as I put it).
Later you returned to "clarify" that you do give a flying fuck about dat dere.
But your previous words... the ones I responded to... clearly indicated you didn't give any kind of a fuck about it.
I was being gracious about your "clarification" even though it seemed dubious at best, but then you had to push the matter...
Now who is building a strawman?5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:30 am Clearly my opinion of the whistleblower here is only in connection with the report to the ICIG. I wasn't saying that the whistleblower did nothing wrong; only that anything he might have done wrong is irrelevant to the matter at hand (the report to the ICIG).
I didn't say you said the whistleblower did nothing wrong. (see, two can play this game)
I said you didn't seem to give a flying fuck as to whether or not he did something wrong.
And. You. Didn't. (pre "clarification")
"whistleblowers potential motivation is just griping and grasping at straws" - 5th
"whistleblower could have acted on Biden's direction for all I care" - 5th
Right, I said you didn't seem to give a flying fuck at that point about how crooked the Dems might be in all of this.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:30 am Plus you throw in the Dems, even though I never mentioned "the Dems" at all in my post.
And. You. Didn't.
Why pray tell would you have to say "the Dems" before I can say you didn't seem to give a FF about how crooked they are in this matter?
These are "the Dems" we were talking about: Joe, Hunter, the whistleblower, Pelosi, et al.
The crime we were talking about is them inventing a false story so they could play their impeachment games.
(along with obstructing the Biden investigation)
Do you think it good to have every bullshit story some "whistleblower" comes up with spark an impeachment investigation immediately?
Should we expect a parade of phony whistleblowers from this point forward with an "investigation" stemming from each one?
Whatevs dude, this particular "whistleblower" said the transcript would prove Lord Donny behaved improperly.
It didn't, thanks anyway "whistleblower", moving on...
Oh yes, the ole "You twisted my words" argument, the last refuge of slain opponent!5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:30 am Anyways, enough wrangling over tedious tidbits. I can see how you're often accused of twisting words.
You're much further over that "fence" than you want to admit arentcha big guy...
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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16
In those days and on that road the HAs owned a house with a tunnel.Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:16 pmExactly. In the 1980's my folks lived on 0 Ave, not a large ditch, but one you'd know you hit if you crossed it.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:17 pmThey would've had to jump ditches on zero ave to just drive into the US accidentally, there's more to it than what is being said
My brother ended up buying that house from them...
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Canadian news story says US officers saw them slowly drive through the ditch...and has a picture of the loverly couple.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:40 pmIn those days and on that road the HAs owned a house with a tunnel.Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:16 pmExactly. In the 1980's my folks lived on 0 Ave, not a large ditch, but one you'd know you hit if you crossed it.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:17 pmThey would've had to jump ditches on zero ave to just drive into the US accidentally, there's more to it than what is being said
My brother ended up buying that house from them...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5321656
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Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:29 pmCanadian news story says US officers saw them slowly drive through the ditch...and has a picture of the loverly couple.Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:40 pmIn those days and on that road the HAs owned a house with a tunnel.Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:16 pmExactly. In the 1980's my folks lived on 0 Ave, not a large ditch, but one you'd know you hit if you crossed it.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:17 pmThey would've had to jump ditches on zero ave to just drive into the US accidentally, there's more to it than what is being said
My brother ended up buying that house from them...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5321656
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Have you seen the state of British country roads?Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:29 pm
Canadian news story says US officers saw them slowly drive through the ditch...and has a picture of the loverly couple.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5321656
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Hedging your bets?Per wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:15 pmHave you seen the state of British country roads?Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:29 pm
Canadian news story says US officers saw them slowly drive through the ditch...and has a picture of the loverly couple.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5321656
Over the Internet, you can pretend to be anyone or anything.
I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
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You going to hog all the word play ?Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:41 pmHedging your bets?Per wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:15 pmHave you seen the state of British country roads?Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:29 pm
Canadian news story says US officers saw them slowly drive through the ditch...and has a picture of the loverly couple.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5321656
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We have hedgehogs in our garden.ukcanuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:48 pmYou going to hog all the word play ?Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:41 pmHedging your bets?Per wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:15 pmHave you seen the state of British country roads?Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:29 pm
Canadian news story says US officers saw them slowly drive through the ditch...and has a picture of the loverly couple.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5321656
Whatever you do, always give 100 %!
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354 - 60!
129 republicans chose to condemn Trump over Syria.
129 republicans chose to condemn Trump over Syria.
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