I did?
Anyhoo, bravo Lord Trump, no guts no glory, gotta kill terrorists, that's what they're there for, gotta protect/avenge Americans...
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I did?
"Take heed that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, I am the CHEETO CHRIST, and they will lead many astray. [...] Then if any one says to you, Lo, here is the Christ! or There he is!, do not believe it. For false Christs and KIM CLEMENT will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Lo, I have told you beforehand. So, if they say to you, Lo, he is in the wilderness, do not go out; if they say, Lo, he is in the inner rooms, do not believe it." (Matthew 24:4-5, 24:23-26)Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:42 pm
Hmmmm.
Trump = Man of God.
Hillary = The Witch.
Two terms.
Thoughts UK?
I understand that this hits home with a lot of people in the USA. Which was also the intention. Rally the base ahead of the elections. Wag the dog. But I think the international fallout could be bad, and put American (among other) lives at risk.Topper wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:30 am Quds was declared a terrorist organization in 2007, the same year the UN Security Council sanctioned Soleimani. Those UN sanctions banned Soleimani from international travel.
As far back as June, 2019, the US was urging the UN to extend the sanctions as they are set to expire in October 2019. In August of last year, the US raised concern that General Soleimani has travelled to Russia in violation of the UN sanctions.
He was responsible for the attack on the US Embassy in Baghdad days earlier. The Embassy is considered US sovereign ground.
OK, so I guess retaliation could be swift then?
For what it's worth, I find it hard to believe the Pentagon would provide Trump targeting options that include Iranian cultural sites. Trump may not care about the laws of war, but DoD planners and lawyers do...and targeting cultural sites is war crime.
Possible, but the point I made was that Trump’s CIA and Defence Department did not want the revolutionary guards declared a terrorist entity by the USA when Trump did so in 2019.
Yeah, well you probably know better than the CIA.While a hero to the upper levels of the regime, Soleimani was feared, not respected by most. There is a reason his photos could not be published in the press.
https://time.com/5758250/qasem-soleiman ... taliation/In 2017, when TIME included Soleimani on its list of the 100 most influential people, former CIA analyst Kenneth M. Pollack wrote that “To Middle Eastern Shi’ites, he is James Bond, Erwin Rommel and Lady Gaga rolled into one.” Inside Iran, his successes abroad evoke the past glories of the Persian empire that, in its early years, the Islamic Republic worked to downplay, because they predated Islam. But the ayatollahs have lately found an asset in nationalism; another poster memorializing Soleimani labels him “PERSIAN GENERAL.”
So popular was he with the Iranian public that Soleimani was envisioned—at least by some in Tehran—as a figure who might provide much-needed public faith in the regime after the eventual passing of the Supreme Leader, now 80—perhaps by becoming the public face of the Islamic Republic while a new top cleric found his feet. That notion, however real or plausible, was also destroyed on the Baghdad pavement.
Wait, if trump chose to interpret that Iran was tracking 43 targets as an imminent threat and reacted with a preemptive strike.
LOL, duress?Per wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:39 amhttps://time.com/5758250/qasem-soleiman ... taliation/In 2017, when TIME included Soleimani on its list of the 100 most influential people, former CIA analyst Kenneth M. Pollack wrote that “To Middle Eastern Shi’ites, he is James Bond, Erwin Rommel and Lady Gaga rolled into one.” Inside Iran, his successes abroad evoke the past glories of the Persian empire that, in its early years, the Islamic Republic worked to downplay, because they predated Islam. But the ayatollahs have lately found an asset in nationalism; another poster memorializing Soleimani labels him “PERSIAN GENERAL.”
So popular was he with the Iranian public that Soleimani was envisioned—at least by some in Tehran—as a figure who might provide much-needed public faith in the regime after the eventual passing of the Supreme Leader, now 80—perhaps by becoming the public face of the Islamic Republic while a new top cleric found his feet. That notion, however real or plausible, was also destroyed on the Baghdad pavement.
“Soleimani was different things to different people,” said Abbas Milani, adjunct professor in the Center on Democracy, Development and Rule of Law at Stanford University. “To regime zealots, he embodied dogmatic dedication to Shiism and to fighting the U.S. and Israel. To regime critics, he was a pillar of oppression at home and threats and attacks on dissidents abroad.”
“To many who lost loved ones in peaceful demonstrations two months, two years and 10 years ago he was a blunt instrument of oppression,” he said. “To a final group he was that rare IRGC commander not tainted with financial corruption. His official title was a commander of the Qods Brigade, a branch of the IRGC. In reality, he was in charge of regime’s policies in the Middle East.”