Carbon recapture

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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:54 pm It's not hard...plant more trees and quit with the fuckin creampies already (scowling at you China and India)
Well, more than 100 countries just pledged to do that at the COP26 Climate summit in Glasgow.
Let's just hope that this isn't just hot air but that they actually follow through this time. :|
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-59088498

Unfortunately, in many third world countries they don't give two figs about the climate, they just worry about putting food on the table. And if logging in the rainforest pays good money, that'll what you'll do.

Then again, emissions in third world countries aren't all that high, so what they do is not as vital as what the rich countries do.

China is responsible for 28% of carbon emissions, the USA for 15% and the EU for roughly 10%. Thus these three entities control more than half of the emissions, and as long as all three are doing their fair share, we may be able to start addressing the problem. And amazingly China is actually slowly starting to talk the talk. Let's see if they can walk the walk as well. They have vowed to stop funding coal power plants abroad, and will start restricting it in China as well before 2030. And what they mean by "before 2030". If they mean 2029 we're in trouble. If it's closer to 2024 we may get our hopes up.

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donlever wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:21 pm
The WEF has been gathering for 50 years as a group under the guise of making the world a better place. The ruling elite. Yet the planet gets more fucked up every year. If they really wanted to make things better the power and money is there.
Globalisation has helped improve the world in remarkable ways though.

As recently as 1950, roughly three quarters of the world's population lived in extreme poverty. Today it is one eighth.
It has even started to fall in absolute numbers, peaking just above two billion people in the 1970's and today being less than one billion.
In other words, extreme poverty has been more than halved in absolute numbers over the past fifty years, and as a proportion of world population the change is so dramatic it is hard to even believe it.

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More and more children have access to education...

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Life expectancy keeps rising...

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All in all the world keeps getting better. Even war casualties has a relatively positive long term trend.

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It is often hard to discern these patterns, because news media tends to focus on th ethings that go wrong, things we need to address.
Positive news is usually flying under the radar. "No one died today" is a boring headline, and "Another record harvest!" is only considered interesting in communist government controlled media or rural Iowa. :look:

This gives us a bias towards thinking that things are constantly getting worse, when in reality all the evidence points to the opposite.
We are also stuck in a worldview of the 70's, where we believe that most of the world's population is still living in poverty with no access to schools, safe drinking water or health care. That was true in the seventies, but the world has changed dramatically in the last fifty years.

Globalisation might seem like a losing game for those belonging to the richest 10% on earth (basically the US, Canada, Western Europe and Australia), but for the vast majority it has been a godsend. And it hasn't even been bad for us. The living standard today is by many measures way higher than it was in the 70's even in these countries. Not by every measure, and some groups have fallen behind, but in general.
People live longer, have better housing, more cars, more electronics, can afford better food, more people have college degrees, etc, etc.

And yet most people feel that things are getting worse and somehow you are getting cheated and robbed. It's weird.
But I guess it has a lot to do with psychology. If your life got 20% better, but your neighbour's life got 50% better you get upset.
Or if your life is the same, but the poor people down the street are catching up, that's even worse.

I recommend that you read Factfulness by Hans Rosling. It's an eye opener.

And if you still don't believe me, check out this graph from his book and then tell me the world isn't getting better:

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Trees do pretty much fuck all when it comes to carbon capture. Have to go to lower level life forms, like algae to be really effective.

Pond scum for all.
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Topper wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:06 am Trees do pretty much fuck all when it comes to carbon capture. Have to go to lower level life forms, like algae to be really effective.

Pond scum for all.
Sure. Bluegreen algae are the main oxygen source, and as such also important for carbon capture. But I think their level is pretty stable. Rain forests do help as well, and considering how rapidly those are getting deztroyed, i think a stop to deforestation and trying to reverse it would have at least some impact. Increasing the amount of bluegreen algae in the oceans, on the other hand, could have unforseen consequences for the food chain. When there is too much algae they tend to start produce toxins.
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The bigger issue with deforestation is the repeated slash and burn agriculture in tropical climates.

We had a satellite imagery interp done on the area I worked in Belize, The person doing the interp summoned up to explain a N-S lineament that occurred in several of the band widths used for interp. We laughed, it was the Belize Guatemala border. Jungle on the Belize side, slash and burn on the Guate side.

I read this the other day on offsetting your household footprint.

https://financialpost.com/commodities/e ... -emissions

Notably it lists eating steak 3x a week.
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Vin Tanner wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 pm Gomer snaps back four steaks a week.
Gomer is pond scum.
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:24 pm
Vin Tanner wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 pm Gomer snaps back four steaks a week.
Gomer is pond scum.
What kinda cut do you think Gomer is eating? Rib Eyes? Chuck Steak? Strip loin? Salisbury Steak? Ham steak? Filet mignon? The people need to know.
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There ya go Donny, thread cleaned up a bit, let's take it over here guys:

http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 98#p455298

Carry on with the carbon talk...
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Topper wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:40 am The bigger issue with deforestation is the repeated slash and burn agriculture in tropical climates.

We had a satellite imagery interp done on the area I worked in Belize, The person doing the interp summoned up to explain a N-S lineament that occurred in several of the band widths used for interp. We laughed, it was the Belize Guatemala border. Jungle on the Belize side, slash and burn on the Guate side.

I read this the other day on offsetting your household footprint.

https://financialpost.com/commodities/e ... -emissions

Notably it lists eating steak 3x a week.
I’ve already planted thousands of trees, so I hope I’m good.

Couldn’t find what they based their assumptions on though. They assigned CO2 emissions to a lot of stuff that only uses electricity, and here in Sweden electricity does not cause any CO2 emissions that I’m aware of. I mean, sure the dishwasher may have been produced in China where they burn coal for electricity, and transporting it may have caused some emissions as well, but once it’s installed there shouldn’t be any.
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:31 pm There ya go Donny, thread cleaned up a bit, let's take it over here guys:
Deleting my posts is cleaning up the thread?

Okay then.
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donlever wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:56 pm Deleting my posts is cleaning up the thread?

Okay then.
I deleted 5 or 6 posts off-topic posts.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the only one of yours I deleted was the one where you complained about all the off-topic posts.

That was my intent at least, I normally would have moved them all but I was in a hurry...
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:21 pm
donlever wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:56 pm Deleting my posts is cleaning up the thread?

Okay then.
I deleted 5 or 6 posts off-topic posts.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the only one of yours I deleted was the one where you complained about all the off-topic posts.

That was my intent at least, I normally would have moved them all but I was in a hurry...
There were 2 but semantics, regardless, gotcha.

Complained is a strong word.

Commented is more in line.

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I also lost at least a half dozen laughing only posts. I'm offended
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