The Brexit disaster

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Re: The Brexit disaster

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The House of Commons will vote on May's deal tomorrow.
Hardly anyone thinks it will pass.

The question is what will happen next.

A no deal Brexit?
New general election?
Second referendum?

May may resign.

Turmoil is pretty much a given though.
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202 in favour, 432 against...

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A historic defeat.

Corbyn demands a vote of no confidence.

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May wins the NC vote
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Topper wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:00 pm May wins the NC vote
Which was logical. The tories control the house and even if May has lost many of them, they are not ready to sell out their party. Kind of how the republican party backs up Trump even though many of them strongly disagree with him.

So, now it pretty much looks like either a no deal brexit or a second referendum.
Guess the money is on the no deal brexit.

Glad I don't live in Britain. That will be a mess.
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Per wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:41 pm
Topper wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:00 pm May wins the NC vote
Which was logical. The tories control the house and even if May has lost many of them, they are not ready to sell out their party. Kind of how the republican party backs up Trump even though many of them strongly disagree with him.

So, now it pretty much looks like either a no deal brexit or a second referendum.
Guess the money is on the no deal brexit.

Glad I don't live in Britain. That will be a mess.
Was May elected on doing Brexit?

If she backs away now and calls for a new referendum is she done? Sure there will be people upset but will the % who want to stay the same as now (not to exit) larger?
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Reefer2 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:29 pm
Per wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:41 pm
Topper wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:00 pm May wins the NC vote
Which was logical. The tories control the house and even if May has lost many of them, they are not ready to sell out their party. Kind of how the republican party backs up Trump even though many of them strongly disagree with him.

So, now it pretty much looks like either a no deal brexit or a second referendum.
Guess the money is on the no deal brexit.

Glad I don't live in Britain. That will be a mess.
Was May elected on doing Brexit?

If she backs away now and calls for a new referendum is she done? Sure there will be people upset but will the % who want to stay the same as now (not to exit) larger?
May wasn't really elected at all... Cameron was. But ahead of the elections tried to sort out differences within the tories by promising a referendum on possibly leaving the EU, knowing fully well that his coalition partners, the libdems, would never agree to this. Then, unfortunately, the tories had a surprisingly huge victory and could rule by themselves, without the libdems, and Cameron couldn't back away from his referendum promise. Oh, well. No way this could go wrong, really. A solid majority of Brits would vote remain... but then... Holy cow! They didn't. Cameron resigned in disgrace and May took over. She campaigned for Remain, but as prime minister promised to go ahead with the Brexit the sadly misinformed people had voted for.

Unfortunately, despite her "Brexit means Brexit" sound bite, no two people seem to agree on what Brexit really should be. She tried to strengthen her hand by throwing surprise early elections (so, OK, in some manner she did get elected then) but managed to lose the absolute majority the tories had had, so that they are now dependent on some rabid Northern Ireland protestant party, the DUP, to stay in power. It's all a clusterfuck.

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Reefer2 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:29 pm
Per wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:41 pm
Topper wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:00 pm May wins the NC vote
Which was logical. The tories control the house and even if May has lost many of them, they are not ready to sell out their party. Kind of how the republican party backs up Trump even though many of them strongly disagree with him.

So, now it pretty much looks like either a no deal brexit or a second referendum.
Guess the money is on the no deal brexit.

Glad I don't live in Britain. That will be a mess.
Was May elected on doing Brexit?

If she backs away now and calls for a new referendum is she done? Sure there will be people upset but will the % who want to stay the same as now (not to exit) larger?
Wake up, Per is a secret commie, leading you down the garden path, you're the hamster, he's the hawk:

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Baubles just cried out "ARMAGEDDON!"
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"In retrospect, lighting the match was my big mistake."
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Strangelove wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:40 pm
Reefer2 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:29 pm
Per wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:41 pm
Topper wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:00 pm May wins the NC vote
Which was logical. The tories control the house and even if May has lost many of them, they are not ready to sell out their party. Kind of how the republican party backs up Trump even though many of them strongly disagree with him.

So, now it pretty much looks like either a no deal brexit or a second referendum.
Guess the money is on the no deal brexit.

Glad I don't live in Britain. That will be a mess.
Was May elected on doing Brexit?

If she backs away now and calls for a new referendum is she done? Sure there will be people upset but will the % who want to stay the same as now (not to exit) larger?
Wake up, Per is a secret commie, leading you down the garden path, you're the hamster, he's the hawk:
Nah, you're confusing me with Donald Trump.
He's the one cozying up to Russia, impeding free trade and talking about disbanding NATO.
https://www.wired.com/story/president-t ... nsiteshare
https://qz.com/1523115/the-disturbing-t ... n-meeting/

Not to mention he has shut down the US government! :|

I'm a liberal, sure, but more of a Canadian or even BC liberal than what US Americans think the Word means.
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Per wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:45 am Nah
Oh I forgot, it's a secret. :wink:
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One (of the many) sad thing about Brexit is that it's the old foghats about to die that forced this upon a younger European minded generation...

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It may also lead to the breakup of the UK, with majorities voting for the Remain side in Scotland (62%), Northern Ireland (56%) and Gibraltar (96%).

As an overseas colony, the Falkland Islands were not allowed to vote in the referendum, but the local government is concerned they will face severe difficulties if a no deal brexit leaves them without trade agreements.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10243 ... nds-brexit

It's also rumoured that Argentina sees this as a chance to try to win them back. :shock:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/arg ... 50c2f.html
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The wisdom of age knows how being an island has preserved British sovereignty.
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https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad ... -a-victory

"A Guardian editorialist got somewhat carried away, as the Guardian almost always does in its lobotomous socialist biases"
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Maybe it's a generational thing, but I have no clue why anyone cares for the verbose opinions of such a pompous ex-Canadian (and convicted felon).

I guess when you started the paper they'll save you space in the Op-Eds.
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