The Absurd and Whimsical Humour of Vladimir "Dobby" Putin

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Strangelove wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:42 pm
Per wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:29 pm Now shooting at, boarding and seizing Ukrainian ships. :shock:
Sweden is next. :twisted:
You'd be forgiven for thinking that, given the effort their propaganda outlets (RT, Sputnik, Breitbart, InfoWars, et al) make at badmouthing us, but realistically, the geopolitical situation make it more plausible that Georgia, the Ukraine, the Baltic states and possibly even Finland are all ahead of us on their invasion shortlist.

The Finns are very careful about not poking the bear though, and seldom get the kind of flack we do in Russian controlled media. Our politicians are more outspoken and seldom miss a chance to criticise Russia when they violate international law, and that seems to annoy them.

Nevertheless, if Russia were to attack us, they'd probably have to take Finland first, for strategic reasons. If they invade Sweden,without first securing Finland, an attack on St Petersburg, Russia's second city could easily be launched from Finnish soil. And either way, an attack on either of us would be an attack on the EU, so they'd have to expect the ire of all of Western Europe. That's why they were so keen on helping the brexiteers; breaking up the EU would increase the power of Russia.
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Per wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:14 pm
Strangelove wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:42 pm
Per wrote: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:29 pm Now shooting at, boarding and seizing Ukrainian ships. :shock:
Sweden is next. :twisted:
You'd be forgiven for thinking that, given the effort their propaganda outlets (RT, Sputnik, Breitbart, InfoWars, et al) make at badmouthing us, but realistically, the geopolitical situation make it more plausible that Georgia, the Ukraine, the Baltic states and possibly even Finland are all ahead of us on their invasion shortlist.

The Finns are very careful about not poking the bear though, and seldom get the kind of flack we do in Russian controlled media. Our politicians are more outspoken and seldom miss a chance to criticise Russia when they violate international law, and that seems to annoy them.

Nevertheless, if Russia were to attack us, they'd probably have to take Finland first, for strategic reasons. If they invade Sweden,without first securing Finland, an attack on St Petersburg, Russia's second city could easily be launched from Finnish soil. And either way, an attack on either of us would be an attack on the EU, so they'd have to expect the ire of all of Western Europe. That's why they were so keen on helping the brexiteers; breaking up the EU would increase the power of Russia.
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This is kind off odd...



Especially when you consider that they are on opposing sides in pretty much every conflict in the Middle East.
Syria. Yemen. Iran. You name it.

Maybe they're just like "we don't take no shit from no journalists, am I right?"
"Right on, bro! Love what you did to that Khashoggi feller!"

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We all know that the Russians are funding the alt right, but it still has some shock value.

Big political scandal in Austria now since a video from 2017 surfaced showing the leader of the alt right FPÖ*, who are the junior partners of a government coalition with the conservative ÖVP*, at a hotel on the Spanish Island Ibiza, offering a Russian woman with supposed ties to an oligarch kickbacks and government contracts in exchange for help rigging the elections.

The prime minister, Kurtz, has called for new elections, and all the FPÖ ministers have had to resign.

As a direct result of this Vengaboys' hit from the 1990's, We're Going To Ibiza, has become the most streamed song on Spotify in Austria! :lol:

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* FPÖ = Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs (the Freedom Party of Austria or perhaps the Libertarian Party of Austria?) = alt right, founded by an SS officer
* ÖVP = Österreichische Volks-Partei (the Austrian People's Party) = conservative , mind you, the names could easily confuse you it's the other way around, but...
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Municipal elections in Russia. Early reports hint at a 17% participation rate.
Guess people found it useless to vote, since all opposition candidates had been stricken from the polls.... 

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The good news is that Russians have begun to take to the streets to protest the blatant lack of democracy.
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So, the Russian Duma just voted in favour of the new constitution drafted by Putin's minions... er I mean administration.
There will be a referendum on April 22nd on whether the new constitution should be adopted.

Apart from a lot of nonsence that should not belong in a constitution, such as that "marriage is between a man and a woman" or that "the Russian people are the backbone of the Russian republic" a nifty little concept has been inserted - Putin can basically become president for life.

The draft of the new constitution actually confirms that no president can sit more than two consecutive terms (of six years).
But it also resets the clock, so that terms served prior to the new constitution taking effect do not count.

This means that Putin can stand for reelection in 2024 and then serve until 2036. :?

As the man is 67 today and will be 71 in 2024, he can sit till he's 83.
And if he is still alive at that point(life expectancy for men in Russia is currently at 71.6 years, even lower than in the USA! :shock: ), I assume he can just rewrite the constitution again.

Referendums are a dictator's best friend. :drink:

They give of a nice scent of democracy but are rather easy to manipulate when you have all the power, control all the media and is in command of those who do the counting.
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Per wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:38 am So, the Russian Duma just voted in favour of the new constitution drafted by Putin's minions... er I mean administration.
There will be a referendum on April 22nd on whether the new constitution should be adopted.

Apart from a lot of nonsence that should not belong in a constitution, such as that "marriage is between a man and a woman" or that "the Russian people are the backbone of the Russian republic" a nifty little concept has been inserted - Putin can basically become president for life.

The draft of the new constitution actually confirms that no president can sit more than two consecutive terms (of six years).
But it also resets the clock, so that terms served prior to the new constitution taking effect do not count.

This means that Putin can stand for reelection in 2024 and then serve until 2036. :?

As the man is 67 today and will be 71 in 2024, he can sit till he's 83.
And if he is still alive at that point(life expectancy for men in Russia is currently at 71.6 years, even lower than in the USA! :shock: ), I assume he can just rewrite the constitution again.

Referendums are a dictator's best friend. :drink:

They give of a nice scent of democracy but are rather easy to manipulate when you have all the power, control all the media and is in command of those who do the counting.
I am about 98% certain Trump has his "people" looking into this and seeing if he can do the same thing.
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Russian joke making the rounds:

Putin dies at age 83 and is told he may enter heaven, but only if he agrees to have the Devil ass-rape him once for every presidential time served.

OK, Putin thinks, it's only six, I can handle that, and then I get to go to heaven. So he agrees.

He is then let into a room where the devil awaits him.
Next to the Devil stands the female duma representative that presented the bill that allows him to get reelected.

"Wait a minute," says Putin. "What is she doing here?"

"OH, no biggie," says the Devil. "She is just here to reset the clock every time we reach four."
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Russian opposition leader Navalny unconscious and hospitalized after being poisoned...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/alexei-na ... ed-reports


Yeah... it’s Russia. What do you expect? :|
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Confirms my healthy suspiscion to drinking tea.

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German doctors have determined that Navalny was poisoned with Novichuk.

This means there is only one possibly culprit: Russian intelligence.

Novichuk is a series of nerve poisons developed by the Soviet Union during the cold war. and kept under lock and key.
No other country has had access to it, but the Russians have used it before in a handful of assassinations, most famously in Salisbury against Sergei and Yulia Skripal.

Thus the Russians, despite denying all involvement, clearly wanted to send a message by their choice of weapon.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -of-menace
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Per wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:48 am German doctors have determined that Navalny was poisoned with Novichuk.

This means there is only one possibly culprit: Russian intelligence.

Novichuk is a series of nerve poisons developed by the Soviet Union during the cold war. and kept under lock and key.
No other country has had access to it, but the Russians have used it before in a handful of assassinations, most famously in Salisbury against Sergei and Yulia Skripal.

Thus the Russians, despite denying all involvement, clearly wanted to send a message by their choice of weapon.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -of-menace
And nothing will be done about it, in reality there is little anyone can do about it except start a war.

Same as the meddling of China and Russia in other countries politics.
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2Fingers wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:45 am And nothing will be done about it, in reality there is little anyone can do about it except start a war.

Same as the meddling of China and Russia AND AMERICA in other countries politics.
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2Fingers wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:45 am
Per wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:48 am German doctors have determined that Navalny was poisoned with Novichuk.

This means there is only one possibly culprit: Russian intelligence.

Novichuk is a series of nerve poisons developed by the Soviet Union during the cold war. and kept under lock and key.
No other country has had access to it, but the Russians have used it before in a handful of assassinations, most famously in Salisbury against Sergei and Yulia Skripal.

Thus the Russians, despite denying all involvement, clearly wanted to send a message by their choice of weapon.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -of-menace
And nothing will be done about it, in reality there is little anyone can do about it except start a war.

Same as the meddling of China and Russia in other countries politics.
I’m pretty sure there will be sanctions. Or, rather, that the sanctions already in place against Russia will be expanded to include more goods and more people.

Also, most European leaders want to tell Putin (and the Russian people) that they know he is behind it.
The thing is, Putin wants the Russian people to know, but with deniability. He wants the opposition to know that he is prepared to break any rule to take them out. At the same time he let’s the West deliver the message, and then he just shrugs and says ”Of course not. We have done no such thing.” And then he smiles.

His supporters are convinced it’s western propaganda while the opposition gets a chilling death threat. It’s all good.
That’s why the sanctions are important, because they actually do hurt him in so much as that a sagging Russian economy leads to increased discontent with his regime. The old KGB colonel is good at these mind games though.
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