Israeli–Palestinian conflict

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ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:34 am They are virtual prisoners in a large concentration camp.

The Israelis have held the Palestinians in this kind of camp for 54 years.
"Prisoners" and "concentration camp" implies they aren't free to leave.

Just another UK lie.

They are free to come and go from Gaza to Egypt (and the world beyond).

And from the West Bank to Jordan (and the world beyond).

But most of them choose to stay (except for holidays) because they are spoiled rotten with free stuff...

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That's some concentration camp! :lol:

But hey, you spin a nice yarn...
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ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:34 am SL doesn’t like to hear it but the Israelis control all land crossings, all airports, and all seaports.
UMMMM the Rafah Border crossing is controlled by Egypt.

Thousands of Palestinians (the peace-loving ones)

... leave that way each year to live in Europe and Arab countries.

That's from Gaza of course, the WestBankers cross the bridge to Jordan and then catch flights from there.

ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:34 am SL is probably twisting in rage at this moment

SL’s coming unglued
What? And steal your thunder?? :lol:

ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:34 am if you deny a man a chance at a home and a hearth and children running underfoot then he picks up a gun and becomes a terrorist. If you take his gun he will use rocks. If you take the rocks from him, if you systematically remove every other avenue for that man to regain his hope, if you render him hopeless he will strap a bomb to his ass and walk into the nearest coffee shop.
Or he will launch $2M worth of rockets at Israeli citizens in one week...

ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:34 am In all of that history of cold blooded murder to suddenly stand up and point fingers at Hamas is too rich. Oh NOW there are rules of engagement? After we drag them out of their homes, beat them in the streets and brutalize them in their mosques, after we leave them no legal or peaceful recourse and after 54 years of the loss of their homeland, inch by inch street by street. Now we are going to get picky about which kind of murder is justified and which kind is “terrorism?”
Yeahno, Israel doesn't do those things and Palestinain terrorists have been murdering Israeli citizens for 54 years.

Which is why the Hamas and Hezbollah gangs are held in contempt by the global community at large today.

Have you never read a history textbook in your life? :eh:

ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:34 am I’ve read enough history to know that history textbooks are bullshit
Ahh, so "reading history" has taught you that "history textbooks are bullshit" :lol:

Sounds like your "reading" is limited to The Terrorist Weekly.

I guess you figure history books are controlled by the Jews, just like you do the media.

(whenever they say anything good about Israel?)

In the end you're just a common ignorant book-burning stooge like the rest of your fascist comrades...
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Lol holy shit I am going to print this post and frame it as an example of... WHITE PRIVILEGE!

Do you have any idea how difficult international travel is without a Canadian passport? Egyptians and Jordanians themselves have a tough time accessing “the rest of the world” never mind a “tourist” with a provisional permit instead of an actual passport.

And listen to you so casually tossing the Palestinians rights and freedoms aside to make room for your Zionism.

You try to pin things like hatred and racism in me but dude you’re the one spewing venom and it’s getting unhinged

I’ve been rational, I’ve acknowledged the other side of the discussion. I’ve pointed to the reality of the situation, I’ve tried to shine some light on the rhetorical nature of the word terrorist and how that term is pretty much the same tactic that the left uses against the right with cancel culture.

The sum total of your argument?

Personal attack: You’re an antisemite
Personal attack: You love terrorism
Personal attack: CSIS should be watching you

Diversion: Hamas are terrorists
Racism: Palestinians had their chance they blew it
Racism: What are they complaining about they can leave anytime.?

Kinda sad really, I almost feel bad for you 🥸
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Well you are a proven antisemite.

And you do seem to love these terrorists.

CSIS should be watching you (it's their job).

Hamas are terrorists! :crazy:

Palestinians did have their chance and blew it. (you said so yourself)

:hmmm:


I'm no Zionist though, that's just your overactive imagination at play again.

I admitted Begin was a terrorist and I believe other Jewish leaders back in the day were as well.

But you continue to make excuses for... and justify... the slaughter of civilians by your Palestinians.

You continue to refuse to call Hamas terrorists, and you refuse to outright condemn the murder of Israeli citizens.

You come across as a raving fucking lunatic and you're the only one who doesn't see it. :lol:
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Actually I have stated more than once firing rockets on civilians is an act of terrorism just not directly to you. (So far)

You want that distinction made that Hamas are terrorists and the IDF are not. You want that because you think because it’s empirically true that makes it actually true. It doesn’t.

The actual truth is that Israel is holding the status quo because they have all the power and they have good ol Uncle Sam in their back pocket. That makes them responsible for all the terrorist acts. on both sides. whether or not only one is legally a terrorist group.

Besides, and you should dig this, I kind of hold Israel to higher standard that the rest of the Middle East. They are the only truly democratic nation with a real constitution and human rights code with rule of law and legitimate courts amongst a collection of dictatorships

The occupation of Palestine is beneath a true peace loving democracy and Israeli leaders are making me ask where is the love ?
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ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 2:52 pm That makes (Israel) responsible for all the terrorist acts. on both sides.
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This is where your whole argument completely falls apart.
Do you expect the terrorists to stop on their own? They are cold blooded killers on a religious campaign. It’s pretty well self evident that killing terrorists only creates more terrorists so that leaves Israel and their right wing asshole government that you love so much (right wingers) holding the bag. Change it up. pull out of Palestine, ask the UN to step in and choose peace brother, peace ☮️
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^Israel pulled out of Gaza (where the rockets are coming from) 16 years ago you nut!



Love, how he destroyed that angry moronic CNN weirdo...
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wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 3:21 pm ^Israel pulled out of Gaza (where the rockets are coming from) 16 years ago you nut!

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Israel, not being a terrorist organization, gave ample warning to vacate the building shared by Hamas, el Jazeera and Associated Press before they flattened it.

Much unlike the terrorist Hamas launching thousands of missiles randomly into Israeli neighborhoods
Over the Internet, you can pretend to be anyone or anything.

I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
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Topper wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm Israel, not being a terrorist organization, gave ample warning to vacate the building shared by Hamas, el Jazeera and Associated Press before they flattened it.

Much unlike the terrorist Hamas launching thousands of missiles randomly into Israeli neighborhoods
That does hi-light the vast difference between the technology made available to the Israelis for sure.

What’s the name of that military GPS only American allies have access too?

Roof knocking that’s psychological terror and also war crime. Imagine growing up with the full knowledge that the country next door has a missile labeled for each house and you’re always a text away from oblivion.

But as you say the rockets... it’s a problem. It’s gotta stop we can’t have homemade rockets with old cell phones using Google maps for guidance systems, some one might get hurt.
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Fuck are you stupid.

GPS lol. Why not GLONASS, Galileo, or BeiDou for Hamas
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Yeah those ones thanks

Fuck are you petty
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ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:38 pm
Topper wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm Israel, not being a terrorist organization, gave ample warning to vacate the building shared by Hamas, el Jazeera and Associated Press before they flattened it.

Much unlike the terrorist Hamas launching thousands of missiles randomly into Israeli neighborhoods
That does hi-light the vast difference between the technology made available to the Israelis for sure.

What’s the name of that military GPS only American allies have access too?

Roof knocking that’s psychological terror and also war crime. Imagine growing up with the full knowledge that the country next door has a missile labeled for each house and you’re always a text away from oblivion.

But as you say the rockets... it’s a problem. It’s gotta stop we can’t have homemade rockets with old cell phones using Google maps for guidance systems, some one might get hurt.
I like how you respond to a comment about the moral and ethical differences between Hamas and Israel as they conduct their mutual war against one another by spinning it into a socio-economic issue to paint Israel as the privileged rich fat cat abusing the down trodden and poor helpless terrorists.

But hey, imagine going to work or school every day knowing that every country that borders with your nation wants to exterminate you because of racial and religious differences.....that’s gotta suck.
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Mëds wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 7:03 am
ukcanuck wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:38 pm
Topper wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm Israel, not being a terrorist organization, gave ample warning to vacate the building shared by Hamas, el Jazeera and Associated Press before they flattened it.

Much unlike the terrorist Hamas launching thousands of missiles randomly into Israeli neighborhoods
That does hi-light the vast difference between the technology made available to the Israelis for sure.

What’s the name of that military GPS only American allies have access too?

Roof knocking that’s psychological terror and also war crime. Imagine growing up with the full knowledge that the country next door has a missile labeled for each house and you’re always a text away from oblivion.

But as you say the rockets... it’s a problem. It’s gotta stop we can’t have homemade rockets with old cell phones using Google maps for guidance systems, some one might get hurt.
I like how you respond to a comment about the moral and ethical differences between Hamas and Israel as they conduct their mutual war against one another by spinning it into a socio-economic issue to paint Israel as the privileged rich fat cat abusing the down trodden and poor helpless terrorists.

But hey, imagine going to work or school every day knowing that every country that borders with your nation wants to exterminate you because of racial and religious differences.....that’s gotta suck.
Let’s play a game...

Watch the following video,



Pick any claim made in it, get your google on and try to prove that claim false and then come back a let me know.

Because you seem to think Palestine is a territory full of Islamic fundamentalists and Israel is full of innocent survivors from the gas camps

While you watch think about how convenient it would be to have the world think your enemies are unthinking evil religious fanatics bent on death to all of God’s enemies

Think about that image and then think about the photos of resorts that SL submitted to prove life is just grand in occupied territories. Do these images jive with you mental image of armed black hooded maniacs in stolen Toyota’s ranging the desert to behead hapless white reporters.

Does any of the claims that Israel are the victims ring true to you? Has there ever been a society, nation, empire, strongman or revolutionary army that possessed the kind of power that Israel possesses over another ethnic population and it NOT go off the rails?


Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

How ironic that our resident cuntservatives who try to pass on their libertarian ideals of small government, small taxes and individual freedoms always come down on the side with all the power.

In the past year alone they have dismissed every attempt of the down trodden to improve their power position as extremism.

Socialists trying to break corporate power are violent Antifa !

Blacks trying to get out from under the leftovers of Jim Crow, BLM are terrorists!

Criticize Israel you are an antisemite !

Think about that Mëds, it is a simple logical paradigm. Those with all the power will always characterize those without power as extremist.

Cuntservatives love the status quo
Cuntservatives fear the loss of power

Cuntservatives fear a change in the balance of power because they have all the power and they know what they do with that power themselves

Anyway Mëds

Give it a go, watch the clip and get back to me
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