Israeli–Palestinian conflict

[Strangelove]

It's all about the sources.

Exactly, your source was some old twisted perv in Ireland.

I gave you 3 of the best and told you there are thousands more.

FFS Hamas complains about the warnings (google) and even they don't repeat your old perv's nonsense...

Face it ole chum, you are blinded by hate.

Actually what it really looks like is a sham attempt to make it seem like Israel is being nice while occupying and terrorizing lands and people that do not belong to them.

It's called "war".

Israel didn't start the war and all Gaza has to do to end it is "recognize Israel's right to exist".

Not gonna get too far in peace talks until both sides agree the other has a right to exist eh wot?

(Hamas' motto: "We won't rest until your country is completely destroyed")

So yeah, the "palestinans" started the war... and they have zero interest in ending it.

They constantly, proudly, refer to themselves as "martyrs".

And you say this isn't about religion LOL!

Dunno what else to tell ya pal, this war may go on for a while yet.

[ukcanuck]

Seems I'm not the only christian beginning to ask questions...

http://rt.com/politics/vatican-israel-p ... -catholic/

[damonberryman]

Seems I'm not the only christian beginning to ask questions...

http://rt.com/politics/vatican-israel-p ... -catholic/

One of the things I have found to be the case in most of these source filled discussions we get between people is that generally the truth is more complicated than anyone gives credence toward. The major discussion here is about a fight each side paints as being all about survival. As some writer said in a book I am reading (yes Strangie, I can read if there are lots of cool pictures), "we are not that far removed from the cave."

I believe the 'cave' reference and to further take this idea out for a walk I will also say that we are ALL capable of the best things and the worst. In this vein (yeah yeah, I am a recovering druggie Strangie) I will also say the situation in Israel or Palestine shows humanity at its worst.

Both the Palestinians and Jews also show us at our best many times but it seems to be our character that demands the worst to energize the best. WTF?

War itself seems to create savage conditions. I believe that is what we are seeing with the beheadings. I cannot watch it on the screen. It has the look and taste of porno and I will also admit to wondering as to the veracity of the events pictured on every media outlet. Propaganda or truth? One thing for sure and that is I am grateful living on this safe (for now) island of North America and I recognize my assumptions and ideas may ALL be full of crap. If I doubt that 'crap' thing there are always lots of people to point out how true it is (wazzup Strangie and Mëds?). and in some weird manner this is needed for all of us.

[Topper]

And yet YOU stand before us in this forum, naked, hand-in-hand with this twisted lying fuck!

LOL, I haven't laughed so much in a long time. Brilliant set up Doc.

My favourite news source on all things Middle Eastern

[BurningBeard]

Are these guys still arguing over that patch of sand?

Sometimes it's better to let fires burn themselves out.

[Strangelove]

Seems I'm not the only christian beginning to ask questions...

http://rt.com/politics/vatican-israel-p ... -catholic/

The article is from 4 years ago and the headline is actually false.

Read the first two articles here:

http://pcwatch.blogspot.ca/2010/10/midd ... -anti.html

[ukcanuck]

Seems I'm not the only christian beginning to ask questions...

http://rt.com/politics/vatican-israel-p ... -catholic/

The article is from 4 years ago and the headline is actually false.

Read the first two articles here:

http://pcwatch.blogspot.ca/2010/10/midd ... -anti.html

okay its a little old, but then so is this war right?

Those links you gave have viewpoints that are basically covered in the first one.

Except for the part where they try to minimalize them poor piggy in the middles as being irrelevant and akin to tiny churches in Korea and Papua New Guinea?? (What's with that? Another discredit the man, discredit the argument, argument?)

-It isn't THE catholic church but it was chaired by the Pope
-There is no chosen people anymore and there is no promised land.
-you can be Christian and not like what Israel is doing...

and as John Lennon said "I'm not the only one"

[Carlyee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjpqiCxc4o

[Cousin Strawberry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjpqiCxc4o

That dudes smooth

[Strangelove]

and as John Lennon said "I'm not the only one"

Just so we're clear...

You're in bed with... Jesus Lennon... Karl Marx... Hamas... and that old perv dude in Ireland.

K, got it.

[BurningBeard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjpqiCxc4o

Well she seemed like a nice lady.

[BurningBeard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjpqiCxc4o

That dudes smooth

Wait a second... is this the same David Horowitz who's in the Beastie Boys? I fucking love that guy! I thought he was younger though.

[ukcanuck]

and as John Lennon said "I'm not the only one"

Just so we're clear...

You're in bed with... Jesus Lennon... Karl Marx... Hamas... and that old perv dude in Ireland.

K, got it.

You forgot Jesus and george bush jr, I've been know to quote both as well

And the ol perv in Ireland ...
You are completely clutching at straws on that one.

Stop with the ad hominem argument already, base your argument in logic, calling people fags because they have a different story is beneath you

Tell me, why does the right always lower themselves that way?
And please don't throw a mountain of wiki/jewish congress/New York lawyer/ political correct/ Fox News links at it

I am asking an honest question here.
Why should Israel deserve my support when clearly they are abusing innocent people to acheive their new Jerusalem?

Zion on the hill, isn't that Bob Marley ?

[ukcanuck]

and as John Lennon said "I'm not the only one"

Just so we're clear...

You're in bed with... Jesus Lennon... Karl Marx... Hamas... and that old perv dude in Ireland.

K, got it.

You forgot Jesus and george bush jr, I've been know to quote both as well

And the ol perv in Ireland ...
You are completely clutching at straws on that one.

Stop with the ad hominem argument already, base your argument in logic, calling people fags because they have a different story is beneath you

Tell me, why does the right always lower themselves that way?
And please don't throw a mountain of wiki/jewish congress/New York lawyer/ political correct/ Fox News links at it

I am asking an honest question here.
Why should Israel deserve my support when clearly they are abusing innocent people to acheive their new Jerusalem?

Zion on the hill, isn't that Bob Marley ?

Better yet,(and topper if your watching,) why do you blindly throw your support towards a government that rains destruction in the name of freedom?

Surely this is wrong

[Topper]

John Lennon and Bob Marley.

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