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[griz]

Liberal Saturday Night Live are now roasting CNN for their bias against Trump ...

[Mickey107]

CNN knows nothing else now.
Guess it was a mistake making their careers so entrenched in it.
How big would a world event have to be now, just to get mentioned on air?

[Aaronp18]

Liberal Saturday Night Live are now roasting CNN for their bias against Trump ...

I don't see that as SNL "roasting" CNN on their bias against Trump, I see it as a sad commentary about the questions surrounding Trump and some questionable practices. It's just one thing after another!

There's so much going on that the next item of news seemingly trumps what's just been reported.

[Strangelove]

Liberal Saturday Night Live are now roasting CNN for their bias against Trump ...

Finally!!

You know it's getting bad when.

Thanks for posting that, I missed SNL last week...

[griz]

Liberal Saturday Night Live are now roasting CNN for their bias against Trump ...

I don't see that as SNL "roasting" CNN on their bias against Trump...

I do.

[2Fingers]

Liberal Saturday Night Live are now roasting CNN for their bias against Trump ...

I don't see that as SNL "roasting" CNN on their bias against Trump...

I do.

Because you have a slanted toward Trump.

[Strangelove]

One day my good buddy Reef will grow a few brain cells and a sense of humour...

[griz]

Liberal Saturday Night Live are now roasting CNN for their bias against Trump ...

I don't see that as SNL "roasting" CNN on their bias against Trump...

I do.

Because you have a slanted toward Trump.

What was your take Reef?

[2Fingers]

One day my good buddy Reef will grow a few brain cells and a sense of humour...

Well it is griz, so who knows?

[Per]

It's getting kind of scary. First Brexit, then Trump. I bet Putin will attempt to help Marine LePen win in France too.
All steps toward a fractured Europe and an inward-looking US, which means no one will be able to stop Putin from imposing Russian rule over neighbouring countries.

Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda machinery — including thousands of botnets, teams of paid human “trolls,” and networks of websites and social-media accounts — echoed and amplified right-wing sites across the Internet as they portrayed Clinton as a criminal hiding potentially fatal health problems and preparing to hand control of the nation to a shadowy cabal of global financiers. The effort also sought to heighten the appearance of international tensions and promote fear of looming hostilities with nuclear-armed Russia.

Two teams of independent researchers found that the Russians exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment, as an insurgent candidate harnessed a wide range of grievances to claim the White House. The sophistication of the Russian tactics may complicate efforts by Facebook and Google to crack down on “fake news,” as they have vowed to do after widespread complaints about the problem.

There is no way to know whether the Russian campaign proved decisive in electing Trump, but researchers portray it as part of a broadly effective strategy of sowing distrust in U.S. democracy and its leaders. The tactics included penetrating the computers of election officials in several states and releasing troves of hacked emails that embarrassed Clinton in the final months of her campaign.

“They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests,” said Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who along with two other researchers has tracked Russian propaganda since 2014. “This was their standard mode during the Cold War. The problem is that this was hard to do before social media.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... aw8&wpmm=1

[Strangelove]

Cry me a river buddy!

(has Russia gone from spreading communist propaganda to spreading "right-wing" propaganda lofl)

Per, speaking of “fake news”

... how do you explain the fact your stupid fucking polls predicted a landslide win for Hillary?

As I've been saying throughout this thread... and for years actually:

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and Per's polls.

Looking forward now to years of Per's paranoid-pink poppycock...

[Per]

Go Canada!

Liberty moves north
It is uniquely fortunate in many ways—but Canada still holds lessons for other Western countries
CANADA’S EXAMPLE TO THE WORLD OCT 29 2016 | ECN

Canada’s example to the world
WHO will uphold the torch of openness in the West? Not America’s next president. Donald Trump, the grievance-mongering Republican nominee, would build a wall on Mexico’s border and rip up trade agreements. Hillary Clinton, the probable winner on November 8th, would be much better on immigration, but she has renounced her former support for ambitious trade deals. Britain, worried about immigrants and globalisation, has voted to march out of the European Union. Angela Merkel flung open Germany’s doors to refugees, then suffered a series of political setbacks. Marine Le Pen, a right-wing populist, is the favourite to win the first round of France’s presidential election next year.

In this depressing company of wall-builders, door-slammers and drawbridge-raisers, Canada stands out as a heartening exception. It happily admits more than 300,000 immigrants a year, nearly 1% of its population—a higher proportion than any other big, rich country—and has done so for two decades. Its charismatic prime minister, Justin Trudeau, who has been in office a year, has welcomed some 33,000 Syrian refugees, far more than America has. Bucking the protectionist mood, Canada remains an eager free-trader. It was dismayed by the EU’s struggle to overcome a veto by Walloons on signing a “comprehensive” trade agreement that took seven years to negotiate (see page 38). Under Mr Trudeau, Canada is trying to make amends for its shameful treatment of indigenous peoples, and is likely to become the first Western country to legalise recreational cannabis on a national level.

Go, Canada!
Irredeemably dull by reputation, less brash and bellicose than America, Canada has long seemed to outsiders to be a citadel of decency, tolerance and good sense. Charles Dickens, bewildered by a visit to America in 1842, found relief in Canada, where he saw “public feeling and private enterprise in a sound and wholesome state; nothing of flush or fever in its system.” Modern Canada’s social safety net is stronger than America’s; its gun-control laws saner. Today, in its lonely defence of liberal values, Canada seems downright heroic. In an age of seductive extremes, it remains reassuringly level-headed.

Many of Canada’s virtues spring from its history and geography and are not readily exportable (see page 19). It is easier to be relaxed about immigration when your only land border is protected by a wall the size of the United States. Appreciation for the benefits of trade comes more easily to countries next door to big markets. British Brexiteers might justifiably claim that they voted for exactly what Canada already has: control of immigration and the freedom to negotiate trade deals with any country willing to reciprocate.

Despite such luck, Canada suffers from some of the stresses that feed populism in other rich countries. It has experienced a decline of manufacturing jobs, stagnant incomes for most of its citizens and rising inequality. It, too, frets about a shrinking middle class. Canadians worry about Islamist terrorism, though the country has so far been spared a big attack. Some right-of-centre politicians, playing on fears that one will happen, indulge in Trumpian rhetoric. Yet Canada does not seem tempted to shut itself off from the world. What can other Western countries learn from its example?

First, Canada not only welcomes newcomers but works hard to integrate them. Its charter of rights and freedoms proclaims the country’s “multicultural heritage”. Not every country will fuse diversity and national identity in the same way that Canada does. Indeed, French-speaking Quebec has its own way of interpreting multiculturalism, which gives priority to the province’s distinct culture. But other countries can learn from the spirit of experimentation that Canada brings to helping immigrants find employment and housing. Its system of private sponsorship, in which groups of citizens take responsibility for supporting refugees during their first year, not only helps them adapt but encourages society at large to make them welcome. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees has called on other countries to copy it.

Follow the moose
The second lesson is the value of knowing when fiscal austerity does more harm than good. Canada has been managing its public finances conservatively for the past 20 years or so. Now in charge of a sluggish economy, Mr Trudeau can afford to give growth a modest lift by spending extra money on infrastructure. His government has given a tax cut to the middle class and raised rates for the highest earners to help pay for it. These economic policies deserve to “go viral”, the head of the IMF has said. Canada has a further economic lesson to impart in how it protects people hurt by globalisation. Compared with America, its publicly financed health system lessens the terror of losing a job; it also provides more financial support and training to people who do. And its policy of “equalisation” gives provincial and local governments the means to maintain public services at a uniform level across the country.

Perhaps most important, this mixture of policies—liberal on trade and immigration, activist in shoring up growth and protecting globalisation’s losers—is a reminder that the centrist formula still works, if politicians are willing to champion it. Instead of folding in the face of opposition to liberal policies, Mr Trudeau and his ministers have instead made the case for them. Although free trade is not the hot-button issue in Canada that it is in America, they have been tireless in listening to critics and trying to take their concerns into account.

Canada is far from perfect. It remains a poorer, less productive and less innovative economy than America’s. While championing freer international trade, Canada has yet to eliminate obstacles to trade among its provinces. For many liberals, Canada’s emphasis on “peace, order and good government”, enshrined in its constitution, is inadequate without an infusion of American individualism. But for now the world owes Canada gratitude for reminding it of what many people are in danger of forgetting: that tolerance and openness are wellsprings of security and prosperity, not threats to them.
OCT 29 2016 | ECN

http://discover.economist.com/?a=217093 ... IT&cid3=UM

Feels good to know that some people remain level-headed.

[Mickey107]

A lot of this article about my own country disgusts me.
How dare they speak for me.

A bit of it is RIGHT..

[Topper]

Go Canada!

LOL

the propaganda machine

[Mickey107]

Hey, Per; Some of us remember when we were young.
You put in a hard weeks work, Saturday night rolls around and you want to unwind.
Well, let's have a party. Who should we invite?
Ah, hell. Let's just call it an open-door house party!
Everyone is welcome!
B.Y.O.B.
Should be a blast!

Sure enough, it works. Lots and lots of people come.
Seems to be going great. Meeting new faces, playing caps, laughing, great.
But later; The fridge is empty. There's no more food. There's no more booze.
And later yet: Every ones getting angry, yelling, shouting, even fighting.
You ask the rowdies to leave, but they won't.
And even later yet: The cops come, make everybody leave except for the ones who threw the party.
They get the shit and are responsible for everything.

Then: 11.00AM Sunday morning, you look around and "Oh my God".
I think about those days and it dawns on me.

What do those Sunday mornings translate into; THE FUTURE.