The Absurd and Whimsical Humour of Vladimir "Dobby" Putin

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That Zelensky really knows how to put together a good speech:

"Even through impenetrable darkness Ukraine and the civilized world see these acts of terrorism clearly. Deliberate, cynical missile strikes on civilian critical infrastructure. No military targets. The Kharkiv and Donetsk regions are without power. In Zaporizhia, Dnipropetrovsk, and Sumy there are issues with food supply.

Do you still believe that we are one people? Do you still think that you can frighten, crush, and bend us into submission? You really understand nothing? You don’t realize who we are? What we are for? What we are about? Read my lips: No gas or no you? No you. No lights or no you? No you. Cold, hunger, darkness, and thirst – for us these are less frightening and less deadly than your friendship and brotherhood. But history will arrange everything. And we will have gas, electricity, water, and food – and we won’t have you
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Yet another dead oligarch. Ivan Pechorin, head of aviation at the KRDV energy company, fell overboard from his yacht and was later found dead near Vladivostok. I’m losing count of how many of them that have died since the war started. :|

The CEO of the same company died of a stroke in February at age 43. I don’t think he was even on the list of suspicious deaths, but maybe he should be exhumed and have a second autopsy? :hmmm:

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Anyone else ever think of Red and OMS during this conflict?
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:19 pm Anyone else ever think of Red and OMS during this conflict?
I didn't think much of OMS
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Putin is starting to act like a cornered rat. He may be a shrewd spy, but he is a complete idiot on international diplomacy and battlefield tactics. I think tactical nukes are very much in play. The 300k new conscripts are just canon fodder. You have to think his days are numbered - one way or another.
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Great speech by Biden in the UN yesterday, making it clear that noone had threatened Russia, that they were the ones to start this conflict and that the war is about Ukraine’s right to exist as a sovereign state.



Meanwhile, things are going south for Putin. At the recent Asian summit meeting other leaders would arrive late to their meetings with him, making him wait in public, he had to apologize to China and India’s Modri pointed out that wars of aggression do not belong in modern society.

After he announced ”limited mobilisation” of 300,000 soldiers yesterday, those not rioting in the streets in Russia (more than 1000 arrested) try to leave the country. All international flights leaving Russia quickly became fully booked.
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The Russians are now holding fake referendums in four Ukrainian regions next to the Russian border. After announcing the pre-ordered results of roughly 80% attendence and 90% saying yes, they will annex these regions and declare them part of Russia. There are many objections to these referendums that will not be recognised by anyone but Russia.

1) They are held on Ukrainian territory and are in violation of the Ukrainian constitution.
2) They are organized by foreign troops occupying the region, in violation of international law.
3) There are ongoing hostilities in the area that makes it imposssible to grant security for those participating.
4) Millions of people who live there have fled to other parts of Ukraine as a result of the invasion, and they can therefor not be polled.
5) No one believes they will be fair and free.

To quote Stalin: The people who vote decide nothing, the people who count the votes decide everything.
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The death toll among powerful Russians is increasing. At least twelve oligarchs and such have died in strange accidents or "suicides" this year.
Most of them with ties to the oil and gas industry. :wow:

Leonid Shulman, a senior executive at Gazprom, was found in his bathroom with slit wrists at the end of January.

Alexandr Tyulyakov, another executive at Gazprom, was found dead by hanging in his garage on February 25th.

Mikhail Watford, oil and gas magnat was found dead in his home in Surrey, England, on February 28th.

Vasili Melnikov, Russian billionaire, was found dead with his family in their apartment in Nizhny Novgorod in March. Russian investigators have ruled it an extended suicide.

In April a former executive at Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow apartment.

The very next day Sergei Protosenya, former head of Russia's second largest gas company Novatek, his wife and daughter were all found dead in a villa they rented in Spain.

Andrei Krukovsky, head of a Gazprom owned ski resort in Sochi apparently fell off a cliff while hiking and died.

Aleksandr Subbotin, former executive at Lukoil was found dead in May at a shaman's place outside of Moscow. Supposedly the Shaman was treating him for a hangover with toad poison that turned out to be lethal.

In July Russian oligarch and multimillionaire Yuri Voronov was found dead in the swimming pool of his estate in Vyborsky on the outskirts of St Petersburg.
He allegedly had a bullet hole in his head and empty shells and a gun were found at the bottom of the pool.

On the 2nd of September Ravil Maganov, chairman of the board of oil giant Lukoil and a former close friend of Vladimir Putin, fell, jumped or was pushed out of a window of a hospital where he was being treated. Oddly Vladimir Putin visited the hospital the very same day that this happened.

On September 12th, Ivan Pechorin, head of aviation at the Russian energy company KRDV, was found dead after falling off his yacht off the Japanese coast.

And this past Wednesday Anatoly Greshchenko, former principal of the Moscow Aviation Institute, an advisor to the Russian Duma and with ties to the military industry, fell down a flight of stairs and died.

:hmmm:

Is the Canadian oil and gas industry as riddled with weird accidents?
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Fucking gas pipes leaking all over the place. Two leaks on Nordstream 1 and one on Nordstream 2 in the waters between Sweden and Denmark. Seismologists detected something that may have been explosions, and now massive amounts of natural gas is flowing up in the sea.

It is almost certain sabotage, but by whom?

Considering that the pipelines are at the bottom of the sea in heavily trafficked waters, it’s not that easy to pull off. Most experts point at the Russians. But it is their pipelines, right? Yes. But there is no gas being sold to Germany through these pipelines at the moment, and it could be a maneuver to increase fear and chaos in the European energy market. It could also be a false flag attack, meant to cast blame at the Ukrainians, in order to undermine the European support for their cause.

The second most likely candidate would be Ukraine, but they really have nothing to gain from it, and if they have some type of navy seal outfit thst could pull off this kind of stuff, wouldn’t it make so much more sense to employ them in the Black Sea, blowing up eg the navy base at Sevastopol on Crimea? :eh:

It’z puzzling, it’s bad for the environment, it poses a danger to ships in the area, and it probably means there will be no Russian gas available for Germany this winter. Which in a way is good, because we should not help subsidize Putin’s war.



Btw… notice that map at the end? One of the pipelines start in Vyborg. Prior to WW2 that was Finland’s second biggest city.
Then the Russians stole it.

F******g Russians! :evil:
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Ukrainian marine soldier Mikhailo Dianov before being captured by Russians at Azovstal:

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The same man, 40 kg (88lb) lighter, after being released from the Russian enprisonment in a prisoner exchange:

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We're going to need some sort of Nuremberg trial after the war, to hold those responsible accountable. :evil:
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Per wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 am
We're going to need some sort of Nuremberg trial after the war, to hold those responsible accountable. :evil:
Will never happen.

For this to even remotely have the chance of occurring a war with Russia would have to occur and they would have to be beaten into submission. A country like Russia is proud and they would not give up anyone, even Putin, without a clear regime change.
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2Fingers wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:51 am
Per wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 am
We're going to need some sort of Nuremberg trial after the war, to hold those responsible accountable. :evil:
Will never happen.

For this to even remotely have the chance of occurring a war with Russia would have to occur and they would have to be beaten into submission. A country like Russia is proud and they would not give up anyone, even Putin, without a clear regime change.
You could probably have said the same about Hitler in 1939.

Basically, what I am saying that the war crimes committed by Putin’s regime in Ukraine are so grave that we will never be able to go back to business-as-usual with Russia until they do have a thorough regime change, with war criminals prosecuted and punished.

I mean, the UN security council vote about condemning Russia’s illegal annexation of Ukrainian territory shows how much of a pariah they have become. Ten countries voted for, only one - Russia themselves - voted against, and of course, they have a veto right, so they could block it, but please note that no other member sided with Russia. China, Brazil, Gabon and India refrained from voting. That’s right. China did not back Russia. They did not go after them either, but they did not vote against the proposal. It also shows you what a total asshole Bolsonaro is. But I digress.

Anyway, there could actually be a possible route to eliminating Russia from the security council and strip them of their veto rights.

The UN charter recognises five permanent members of the security council: the USA, France, the UK, China and the USSR. No mentioning of Russia. In 1991 it was agreed that Russia would fill the seat of the USSR, but the charter was never changed. As Russia replaced the USSR they also promised to follow the UN charter, which of course includes a ban on wars of aggression and demands that you respect the border integrity of other members, such as eg the Ukraine. As Russia clearly has broken these rules, their place on the council can obviously be questioned. And, there are two other countries that were founding members of the UN as well as part of the Soviet Union; Belarus and Ukraine. As Russia has not lived up to its obligations as a security council member, why not let one of the other two heirs of the USSR take the seat? It would be no different than when in 1971 Beijing was allowed to take the seat previously held by the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) after a procedural vote in the security council, in which a qualified majority (nine out of fifteen) is required and there is no veto right. I’m all for it!

https://cepa.org/article/expelling-russ ... -to-guide/
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