The Brexit disaster

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Bus hijacked by protesters and set alight on sixth night of unrest in Northern Ireland.
Violence has been escalating as loyalist groups protest amid tensions over the Northern Ireland Protocol on Brexit, which puts a de facto border in the Irish sea between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, and police handling of coronavirus regulation breaches by members of the Sinn Féin party.
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SKYO wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:36 am Bus hijacked by protesters and set alight on sixth night of unrest in Northern Ireland.
Violence has been escalating as loyalist groups protest amid tensions over the Northern Ireland Protocol on Brexit, which puts a de facto border in the Irish sea between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, and police handling of coronavirus regulation breaches by members of the Sinn Féin party.
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SKYO wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:36 am Bus hijacked by protesters and set alight on sixth night of unrest in Northern Ireland.
Violence has been escalating as loyalist groups protest amid tensions over the Northern Ireland Protocol on Brexit, which puts a de facto border in the Irish sea between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, and police handling of coronavirus regulation breaches by members of the Sinn Féin party.
As predicted. :(

And even though a majority of Northern Irish voted to remain in the EU, their wish was overridden by a majority in England and Wales, who voted in favour of sabotaging the fragile peace on Ireland.
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Per, just more of your "Orange men bad" rhetoric.
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Topper wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:45 am Per, just more of your "Orange men bad" rhetoric.
Not really. In this case the orange men feel betrayed by Boris Johnson, and I do not blame them.

Thing is, Boris promised to not have border control between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic reinstated.
He also promised to not create a border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

The only way he would be able to keep both promises is by staying in the EU.
And of course he also promised to not do that.

Because of Brexit, the border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic is now the outer border of the EU. This should entail that all goods and people crossing that border must be subject to border control. The Brexiteers also talked about ”taking control of our borders”, which they by definition cannot unless there is some sort of border control.

Now, the Good Friday agreement, of which both the EU and the UK are signatories says there should be no border control on Ireland, between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic, so reimposing those controls would be a violation of that treaty.

Instead the EU and the UK agreed that until some technical solution can be found, all border control will instead be between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. Now, this is something Boris had said he would never agree too, but then he did, and signed the agreement. Afterwards, as Northern Irish unionists started protesting, he suggested that the UK unilaterally would scrap that part of the deal, but the EU promptly pointed out that no, you cannot do that, and threatened to sue the UK at the international court in Hague if they did. The British, realizing that they would lose, backed down.

And there we are. The orange men are understandably angry, because they see this as a betrayal by the conservative government, that in practice has separated Northern Ireland from Great Britain and which facilitates a future reunification of Ireland, which they do not want. And so tension is rising in a region that long was probably the most volatile and dangerous place in Europe.

It’s no surprise. Everyone who bothered to look into this predicted that there would be unrest in Northern Ireland if Brexit came to pass, and now we are there. Yet this unrest is just a breeze compared to the storm that would be unleashed should border control between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic be imposed again. The border stations used to be prime targets for bombings by the IRA. When border control was removed things got much easier, and the Irish on both sides have now lived for over 20 years without it, being able to crisscross the border at will and often not thinking much about where it is.

It will be interesting to see what happens. A poll made in Northern Ireland prior to Brexit showed that some two thirds favoured being part of the UK, but in the case of a hard Brexit, more than 50% would favour reunification with the Irish Republic rather than have border control reinstated.

Now, according to the Good Friday agreement, if there at any point in time seems to be a majority in favour of reunification, a referendum must be held. I think this will probably happen in the near future.

The only question is if the Northern Irish or the Scottish will be the first to leave the UK.
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