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5thhorseman wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:21 am There is no morality anymore. There's not even an expectation of morality. Where are the Christians holding Trump accountable?
Well, there’s always this:
In our founding documents, Billy Graham explains that Christianity Today will help evangelical Christians interpret the news in a manner that reflects their faith. The impeachment of Donald Trump is a significant event in the story of our republic. It requires comment.

The typical CT approach is to stay above the fray and allow Christians with different political convictions to make their arguments in the public square, to encourage all to pursue justice according to their convictions and treat their political opposition as charitably as possible. We want CT to be a place that welcomes Christians from across the political spectrum, and reminds everyone that politics is not the end and purpose of our being. We take pride in the fact, for instance, that politics does not dominate our homepage.

That said, we do feel it necessary from time to time to make our own opinions on political matters clear—always, as Graham encouraged us, doing so with both conviction and love. We love and pray for our president, as we love and pray for leaders (as well as ordinary citizens) on both sides of the political aisle.

Let’s grant this to the president: The Democrats have had it out for him from day one, and therefore nearly everything they do is under a cloud of partisan suspicion. This has led many to suspect not only motives but facts in these recent impeachment hearings. And, no, Mr. Trump did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story in the House hearings on impeachment.

But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.

The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.

Trump’s evangelical supporters have pointed to his Supreme Court nominees, his defense of religious liberty, and his stewardship of the economy, among other things, as achievements that justify their support of the president. We believe the impeachment hearings have made it absolutely clear, in a way the Mueller investigation did not, that President Trump has abused his authority for personal gain and betrayed his constitutional oath. The impeachment hearings have illuminated the president’s moral deficiencies for all to see. This damages the institution of the presidency, damages the reputation of our country, and damages both the spirit and the future of our people. None of the president’s positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character.

This concern for the character of our national leader is not new in CT. In 1998, we wrote this:

The President's failure to tell the truth—even when cornered—rips at the fabric of the nation. This is not a private affair. For above all, social intercourse is built on a presumption of trust: trust that the milk your grocer sells you is wholesome and pure; trust that the money you put in your bank can be taken out of the bank; trust that your babysitter, firefighters, clergy, and ambulance drivers will all do their best. And while politicians are notorious for breaking campaign promises, while in office they have a fundamental obligation to uphold our trust in them and to live by the law.

And this:

Unsavory dealings and immoral acts by the President and those close to him have rendered this administration morally unable to lead.

Unfortunately, the words that we applied to Mr. Clinton 20 years ago apply almost perfectly to our current president. Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election—that is a matter of prudential judgment. That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments.

To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr. Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this: Remember who you are and whom you serve. Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump’s immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency. If we don’t reverse course now, will anyone take anything we say about justice and righteousness with any seriousness for decades to come? Can we say with a straight face that abortion is a great evil that cannot be tolerated and, with the same straight face, say that the bent and broken character of our nation’s leader doesn’t really matter in the end?

We have reserved judgment on Mr. Trump for years now. Some have criticized us for our reserve. But when it comes to condemning the behavior of another, patient charity must come first. So we have done our best to give evangelical Trump supporters their due, to try to understand their point of view, to see the prudential nature of so many political decisions they have made regarding Mr. Trump. To use an old cliché, it’s time to call a spade a spade, to say that no matter how many hands we win in this political poker game, we are playing with a stacked deck of gross immorality and ethical incompetence. And just when we think it’s time to push all our chips to the center of the table, that’s when the whole game will come crashing down. It will crash down on the reputation of evangelical religion and on the world’s understanding of the gospel. And it will come crashing down on a nation of men and women whose welfare is also our concern.
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... and there is this...



... albeit, iirc, doc isn’t quite certain whether the pope really should be considered Christian.... :|

I mean, he’s just leader of the largest Christian denomination in the world. :look:
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rats19 wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:23 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:17 pm
LotusBlossom wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:54 am I will be sending my absentee vote as per usual, through the post, like I've been doing for decades. You know something the orange fuck is all afraid of doing, even though he does it himself from Washington, via his residence in Florida.
The orange fuck has made it clear many times that he has no problem with dat dere...
Methinks she is confused between “absentee “ and carte Blanche “ mail in ballots “ whilst be present the entire time ...
Can someone explain what the difference is in the context of voter fraud? As far as I can tell the process is virtually the same and one is not more susceptible to fraud than the other, not that there has ever been any significant level of fraud found at all, historically.

Just more fake news from Trump for his followers to swallow.
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Otherwise I think Bill Maher summed it up quite nicely back in 2016 already:

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Well I guess we know why Donny has problems with his hair, it seems the water he uses may be a little yellow.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/tru ... ri18n=true

Holy hell in a hand basket, that is some crazy ass shit stuff even for him.
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^ LMAO, all the CC fake-news spreaders are on display today!
5thhorseman wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:21 am Not surprising from someone who claimed he could "stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody" and not "lose any voters."

There is no morality anymore. There's not even an expectation of morality. Where are the Christians holding Trump accountable?
Did he shoot somebody? :crazy:

For fucksake twas a joke, and a super hilarious one at that!

Your obliviousness to this is a common symptom of Trump Derangement Syndrome...
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Strangelove wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:24 pm .
^ LMAO, all the CC fake-news spreaders are on display today!
5thhorseman wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:21 am Not surprising from someone who claimed he could "stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody" and not "lose any voters."

There is no morality anymore. There's not even an expectation of morality. Where are the Christians holding Trump accountable?
Did he shoot somebody? :crazy:

For fucksake twas a joke, and a super hilarious one at that!

Your obliviousness to this is a common symptom of Trump Derangement Syndrome...
It is hyperbole of course, and yeah it is a joke about the mindlessness of those who would vote for him.

But his latest statements are not a joke. Its an admission that he intends to subvert the democratic process.

Like I said, not a surprise.
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Strangelove wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:24 pm
LMAO, all the CC fake-news spreaders are on display today!
No, really, I think you’ve been rather quiet. :|
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I got to admit that Trump has changed the nature of news. Used to be they would talk about this, that and some other motherfucking thing. No more. American news has become the Trump show as the country itself faces a reckoning regarding morals, race and greed. I do not believe Trump is responsible for this narcissism as it was a pre-existing condition, but he sure as hell as hurried the reckoning up. Nov. should be an interesting month which is good because it is mainly gray on the Coast and will give me something to feel some kind of way. For that I am grateful.

It took me a while to realize it but there is some serious trolling going on here. Kind of fun if you look at it right. Comedy at its ....well....I would like to say 'finest' but.....
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Strangelove wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 8:27 pm

Oh my goodness, Mika is so upset with Donald today! :lol:

She's going to have him removed from twitter she says!!

I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with this blast from the past going viral on twitter today:



It seems her husband likes to watch. :oops:
Lol, ole Mika is at it again, bad time of the menstrual cycle or bad time of the election cycle? :mex:

Donny, perhaps you shouldn't have gotten her so hot+heavy way back in the day only to leave her high+dry.

Check out what Crazy Lady had to say the other day...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/mika-mel ... ting-trump
MSNBC “Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski repeatedly ranted throughout Friday’s broadcast of the show over everything Donald Trump, suggesting that he was intentionally letting people die from COVID-19.

Brzezinski, who appeared to be in a near state of rage throughout the show, repeatedly berated the president with names, and later, at the end of the show, said, “If you’re sensing a little intensity here, I’m a little amped up because this is an emergency.”

The video clip below, compiled by Grabien News founder Tom Elliott, is a supercut video that shows the highlights from Brzezinski’s ravings.


Well yikes, that was a 10 on the ole triggered scale wasn't it, let's break it down a bit shall we:

“Look at the facts… Paid off porn star… Russia lies… Racism… Children in cages… Conspiracy theories.”

FACTS: Stormy Daniels eventually admitted she never actually had an affair with Trumpy-poo

… no Russia lies, no racism, no children in cages (that one was Oblahblah).

And what’s wrong with a conspiracy theory or two? :eh:

“Mitch McConnell has money coming in from Russia.”

Ooookaaaayyy... :look:

To folks who attended Trump’s rallies: “How STUPID can you be that you follow this president?!!”

Deplorables? Hilly, this one is on you.

“Apparent negligence… perhaps purposeful… on saving lives in this pandemic... His calamitous coronavirus leadership,
he could be keeping people alive, he’s choosing not to.”


Ahhh, so he's a mass murderer! :lol:

“You can be sure that you’ll never see me on Fifth Avenue, EVER! EVER!! Because he has said that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, I believe him.”

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*ahem*

Bat. Shit. Crazy.

She actually claimed on national television that the President of the USA is going to shoot someone (possibly her). :wow:

Typical case of Trump Derangement Syndrome...

“If you’re sensing a little intensity here, I’m a little amped up because this is an emergency.”

"A little"? :lol:

So this "emergency" goes back 14 years to the alleged (disproved) Stormy affair

... to the disproved Russia-collusion smear campaign

... to her imagined he's-a-murderer madness.

Obviously her "emergency" is that it is obvious to her that Lord Trump is going to be reelected. 8-)

Mika in November:

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Strangelove wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm
“Look at the facts… Paid off porn star… Russia lies… Racism… Children in cages… Conspiracy theories.”
Stormy Daniels eventually admitted she never actually had an affair with Trumpy-poo
Source on that? :eh:

So why did he pay her USD 130,000 from campaign funds? :eh:
… no Russia lies,
Uhm... some seven, iirc, people with ties to the Trump campaign have been convicted in a court of law for lying about Russia.
But you know better? :roll:
no racism,
PLENTY of racism, starting with the practices Don and his dad had cutting of water and electricity to get rid of people of colour from their buildings back in the 70’s to the whole birtherism shit he started, questioning Obama’s birth certificate, and it goes on and on and on and on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_vi ... nald_Trump

You cannot seriously say Trump is not racist with a straight face. :lol:
But yeah, I know you love trolling.... ;)
no children in cages
Thousands of children, including infants, separated from their parents and placed in concentration camps. Some children may never get reunited with their families due to the shoddy paperwork. There are several cases where the parents have been deported, and as they're fleeing persecution in their home country, their whereabouts is unknown, but the children remain incarcerated in the US. And at least seven children have died from neglect while in custody under Trump's regime.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44518942
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/11/wri ... ent-border
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-det ... d-migrants

Even Melania and Laura Bush have protested these atrocities.
Melania Trump made a rare statement expressing concern.
Mrs Trump "hates to see children separated from their families", her spokeswoman said.
She repeated her husband's call for "both sides" to work on immigration reform as a solution. However, fact-checkers point out that the policy was introduced by Mr Trump's attorney general and does not require congressional action to be stopped.
Laura Bush, wife of the former Republican President George W Bush and a Texas resident, launched an outspoken attack on the policy.
"This zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart," she wrote in the Washington Post.
"Our government should not be in the business of warehousing children in converted box stores or making plans to place them in tent cities in the desert."
"These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War Two, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in US history," she added.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44515123

As a result of the outrage, even from many republicans, including Melania and Laura Bush (see above) Trump actually backed down on this and ended the widespread practice of family separations through an executive order in June 2018. Court filings show that some separations have continued to occur though, but not on the grand scale of early 2018.
(That one was [Obama])
Er... partially correct. You are comparing apples and orchards. :roll:

There were children apprehended under Obama, which is bad enough, and the facilities referred to as cages were constructed in 2015 as a response to an increase in unaccompanied minors arriving at the border, so that did happen on Obama's watch.

But, iirc, under Obama children could not be held for more than 72 hours, and the children housed there were mainly unaccompanied minors, except for the odd case where parents had committed actual crimes and were incarcerated.

Then the practice escalated under Trump and was taken to a whole new level, including breaking up families as a standard measure, placing the children in one compound and their parents in another.

But as I already stated, as a result of the public outcry he eventually retracted the inhuman policies and returned it to the less brutal levels of the previous administration. So I guess now it's comparable to what Obama did.
And what’s wrong with a conspiracy theory or two? :eh:
Among other things, it undermines the trust in democracy and government, thus paving the way for a failed society.

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2016 Sure, Trump is bad, but how much damage can he do in just four years...

2020 If everyone buys enough stamps, maybe democracy can survive long enough for us to find a vaccine against the deadly pandemic and perhaps we can eventually be allowed to go to a movie theatre again...


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Per wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:16 pm 2016 Sure, Trump is bad, but how much damage can he do in just four years...

2020 If everyone buys enough stamps, maybe democracy can survive long enough for us to find a vaccine against the deadly pandemic and perhaps we can eventually be allowed to go to a movie theatre again...


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Most ignorant thing you’ve ever said...
Silence intelligence so stupid isn’t offended….
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rats19 wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:20 pm
Per wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:16 pm 2016 Sure, Trump is bad, but how much damage can he do in just four years...

2020 If everyone buys enough stamps, maybe democracy can survive long enough for us to find a vaccine against the deadly pandemic and perhaps we can eventually be allowed to go to a movie theatre again...


:lol:
Most ignorant thing you’ve ever said...
Copied it from the interwebs... I thought it was funny, mostly because 2020 is a year that is so fucked up no one would have believed you if you had suggested this a year ago. And yeah, I know Trump isn’t to blame for the virus, but he definitely dropped the ball in trying to fight it. Compare the clusterfuck in the USA to how you’ve handled it in Canada.

And it is freaky that he is trying to fuck up the USPS in order to make it harder for people to vote.

Did anyone think that was even possible in a democracy?
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