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We've been having this debate as well in our Canucks forum and so far, the feeling is that DN should hold onto him until the end of the season. But a couple of fans of other teams have another suggestion...

It's known that Sheldon Souray, (currently $2.4M, 41 points, -9) wants to go west - his wife is from LA I've heard; Montreal is also looking for a scoring center... Also that Datsyuk's contract demands probably make him a little too pricey for the now cap-conscious Wings, especially given his amazing powers of postseason invisibility (Zetterberg has been better in the postseason, say the Wings fans on our board) and are looking to replace Mathieu Schneider on the point on their PP... Of course, we know that the Nucks will be in tough to re-sign or replace Salo... How about a three-way in which Vancouver gets Souray, Datsyuk dangles for Montreal, and Detroit gets Salo? This time last seaso, DN was trying to send Bert to Montreal in a package that included Souray coming back the other way so we know there is interest... Souray's plus/minus is a concern, and Salo is the only 'plus' defenceman among the Top 4 in Vancouver... Thoughts?

the Cunning Linguist wrote:..... and Salo is the only 'plus' defenceman among the Top 4 in Vancouver... Thoughts?

If he's affordable in the whole context of the team, they have to keep him. just let's see what he's demanding. Maybe he stays for nearly the same, who knows...

I would not understand trading Salo at this point, we already dumped Jovo's salary in the offseaon. Salo's slapper could be huge during playoff PP's, not to mention our future. These rumors are nasty, and I hope they they have no merrit.

I think Sami will be moved. Pratt mentioned Carolina, but they're one of the few teams in the league that have a plethora of good D men.

Buffalo, Pittsburgh or Atlanta would be the front runners in this noob's opinion. What we would get in return most likely is picks....Sami would certainly garner a 1st rounder or at least a 2nd accompanied by a fill-in body.

I would love to see that Horton-Naslund deal done with maybe Boumeester included for someone.....please say Bulis.......wishful thinking, but who knows whether Markus would even allow such a deal and waive the no-trade clause.

Luongo19 wrote:I heard from ppl on a different forum that the canucks might trade Sami Salo cuz of his high salary and he is a free agent at the end of the season. If the canucks were to trade Salo, which team should we trade him to and who should we get in return?

There is NO WAY Salo will be traded at the deadline IMO. Salo is too important to this team. Nonis wll take the risk of losing him for nothing, and will try and sign him in the off-season.

Agreed.
Trading Salo is INSANE....unless some crazy deal that Nonis can't refuse comes up (ie what St. Louis got for Tkachuk).

Face it, UFAs is now just part of the NHL....you're gonna win some & loose some. Big deal if Salo walks, you just replace him w/ someone else's UFA. Its just a fact of life now. When you're going to make the playoffs & had some runs like the Nux have, you don't go launching premiere players for "prospects."
Won't happen.

Luongo19 wrote:I heard from ppl on a different forum that the canucks might trade Sami Salo cuz of his high salary and he is a free agent at the end of the season. If the canucks were to trade Salo, which team should we trade him to and who should we get in return?

Dude we re-signed Sami awhile ago lol

Just have a look at the date of his posting.

Seems the laughter is coming back to you.

Why on earth would u deal Horton for Naslund??????

Nathan Horton numbers:


Year Team GP G A Pts +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GW GT SOG Pct
2003-04 FLA 55 14 8 22 -5 57 6 2 1 0 0 0 81 .173
2005-06 FLA 71 28 19 47 8 89 3 6 0 0 1 0 162 .173
2006-07 FLA 82 31 31 62 15 61 7 6 1 0 3 0 217 .143
Career Totals (Full) 208 73 58 131 18 207 16 14 2 0 4 0 460 .159

Last updated through games completed on Jun 6, 2007

Markus Naslund Stats

Career Regular Season Stats
Season Team GP G A P
2005-2006 Canucks 81 32 47 79
2003-2004 Canucks 78 35 49 84
2002-2003 Canucks 82 48 56 104
2001-2002 Canucks 81 40 50 90
2000-2001 Canucks 72 41 34 75
1999-2000 Canucks 82 27 38 65
1998-1999 Canucks 80 36 30 66
1997-1998 Canucks 76 14 20 34
1996-1997 Canucks 78 21 20 41
1995-1996 Canucks 10 3 0 3
1995-1996 Penguins 66 19 33 52 17 36 3 0 4 0 125 15.2
1994-1995 Penguins 14 2 2 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 13 15.4
1993-1994 Penguins 71 4 7 11 -3 27 1 0 0 0 80 5

NHL Totals: 871 322 386 708 20 579 100 6 46 4 2,372 13.6


Career Playoff Stats
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW GT Shots Pct
2003-2004 Canucks 7 2 7 9 1 2 2 0 0 0 32 6.3
2002-2003 Canucks 14 5 9 14 -6 18 2 0 1 0 40 12.5
2001-2002 Canucks 6 1 1 2 -1 2 0 0 0 0 18 5.6
1995-1996 Canucks 6 1 2 3 -2 8 1 0 0 0 16 6.3

NHL Totals: 33 9 19 28 -8 30 5 0 1 0 106 8.5

GEE Who should we take???????? HMMMMMMMMM

i predict nonis will trade a defenceman (salo?) and the 1st pick and possibly another decent player or prospect this week for an offensive player.
somthing is going to happen before the draft.

sports&stuff---rick wrote:i predict nonis will trade a defenceman (salo?) and the 1st pick and possibly another decent player or prospect this week for an offensive player.
somthing is going to happen before the draft.

salo has a NTC doesnt he? why would we trade a dman making only $3.5 that is such a huge part of our PP. our PP is bad enough with him, without would be leagues worst. assuming he even waived that NTC.

BA6735 wrote:Why on earth would u deal Horton for Naslund??????

Nathan Horton numbers:


Year Team GP G A Pts +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GW GT SOG Pct
2003-04 FLA 55 14 8 22 -5 57 6 2 1 0 0 0 81 .173
2005-06 FLA 71 28 19 47 8 89 3 6 0 0 1 0 162 .173
2006-07 FLA 82 31 31 62 15 61 7 6 1 0 3 0 217 .143
Career Totals (Full) 208 73 58 131 18 207 16 14 2 0 4 0 460 .159

Last updated through games completed on Jun 6, 2007

Markus Naslund Stats

Career Regular Season Stats
Season Team GP G A P
2005-2006 Canucks 81 32 47 79
2003-2004 Canucks 78 35 49 84
2002-2003 Canucks 82 48 56 104
2001-2002 Canucks 81 40 50 90
2000-2001 Canucks 72 41 34 75
1999-2000 Canucks 82 27 38 65
1998-1999 Canucks 80 36 30 66
1997-1998 Canucks 76 14 20 34
1996-1997 Canucks 78 21 20 41
1995-1996 Canucks 10 3 0 3
1995-1996 Penguins 66 19 33 52 17 36 3 0 4 0 125 15.2
1994-1995 Penguins 14 2 2 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 13 15.4
1993-1994 Penguins 71 4 7 11 -3 27 1 0 0 0 80 5

NHL Totals: 871 322 386 708 20 579 100 6 46 4 2,372 13.6


Career Playoff Stats
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW GT Shots Pct
2003-2004 Canucks 7 2 7 9 1 2 2 0 0 0 32 6.3
2002-2003 Canucks 14 5 9 14 -6 18 2 0 1 0 40 12.5
2001-2002 Canucks 6 1 1 2 -1 2 0 0 0 0 18 5.6
1995-1996 Canucks 6 1 2 3 -2 8 1 0 0 0 16 6.3

NHL Totals: 33 9 19 28 -8 30 5 0 1 0 106 8.5

GEE Who should we take???????? HMMMMMMMMM

1) Horton is right-hand shot
2) Horton is a lot younger
3) Horton has more upside
4) Horton is cheaper
5) Horton had 31 goals to Naslund's 24

jchockey wrote:

BA6735 wrote:Why on earth would u deal Horton for Naslund??????

Nathan Horton numbers:


Year Team GP G A Pts +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GW GT SOG Pct
2003-04 FLA 55 14 8 22 -5 57 6 2 1 0 0 0 81 .173
2005-06 FLA 71 28 19 47 8 89 3 6 0 0 1 0 162 .173
2006-07 FLA 82 31 31 62 15 61 7 6 1 0 3 0 217 .143
Career Totals (Full) 208 73 58 131 18 207 16 14 2 0 4 0 460 .159

Last updated through games completed on Jun 6, 2007

Markus Naslund Stats

Career Regular Season Stats
Season Team GP G A P
2005-2006 Canucks 81 32 47 79
2003-2004 Canucks 78 35 49 84
2002-2003 Canucks 82 48 56 104
2001-2002 Canucks 81 40 50 90
2000-2001 Canucks 72 41 34 75
1999-2000 Canucks 82 27 38 65
1998-1999 Canucks 80 36 30 66
1997-1998 Canucks 76 14 20 34
1996-1997 Canucks 78 21 20 41
1995-1996 Canucks 10 3 0 3
1995-1996 Penguins 66 19 33 52 17 36 3 0 4 0 125 15.2
1994-1995 Penguins 14 2 2 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 13 15.4
1993-1994 Penguins 71 4 7 11 -3 27 1 0 0 0 80 5

NHL Totals: 871 322 386 708 20 579 100 6 46 4 2,372 13.6


Career Playoff Stats
Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW GT Shots Pct
2003-2004 Canucks 7 2 7 9 1 2 2 0 0 0 32 6.3
2002-2003 Canucks 14 5 9 14 -6 18 2 0 1 0 40 12.5
2001-2002 Canucks 6 1 1 2 -1 2 0 0 0 0 18 5.6
1995-1996 Canucks 6 1 2 3 -2 8 1 0 0 0 16 6.3

NHL Totals: 33 9 19 28 -8 30 5 0 1 0 106 8.5

GEE Who should we take???????? HMMMMMMMMM

1) Horton is right-hand shot
2) Horton is a lot younger
3) Horton has more upside
4) Horton is cheaper
5) Horton had 31 goals to Naslund's 24

- Naslund may only have one year left in the NHL ... get something for him now while you can ...

- Horton's numbers are on the way up and Naslund's are dropping ...

- Naslund has played with some much better players than Horton ...

Note: Not intended to be a slam on Naslund but from a business perspective ...

Grizz

mattola wrote:

sports&stuff---rick wrote:i predict nonis will trade a defenceman (salo?) and the 1st pick and possibly another decent player or prospect this week for an offensive player.
somthing is going to happen before the draft.

salo has a NTC doesnt he? why would we trade a dman making only $3.5 that is such a huge part of our PP. our PP is bad enough with him, without would be leagues worst. assuming he even waived that NTC.[/quot


im not saying to trade salo or they will, im saying they are likely trying to put an package together with the 1st pick to land a scoring forward. You cant just offer 4th line wingers if you want to make a deal to help the team . does everybody have a n o trade clause these days????????

sports&stuff---rick wrote: does everybody have a n o trade clause these days????????

Micthell
Salo
Ohlund
Naslund
Luongo
Kesler (90% sure on this can anyone confirm)

all have no trade clauses, I agree we cant trade all 4th liners and I never said we would Im just saying salo cant be part of the equation even in propsals. he JUST signed and took what I believe to be a discount not to uproot his family.