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Re: World Juniors 2013

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:01 pm
by Meds
RoyalDude wrote:Ya know what I love about this loss. The Don Cherry's of the Canadian Hockey Snobby World cannot use the excuse "Well, if they had all their best players, they would have won!" No excuses. Anyhow, where do you pin the blame? Pretty much everywhere, but seriously, Hockey Canada really, really, really needs to stop rolling out the red carpet for these kids, the personal chefs, massages, etc. Top Notch everything, that has to go. None of the other countries treat their players like Kings and Queens. What is concerning for me, is how Team Canada folds like a shitty tent as soon as they encounter a team that isn't afraid of them, not much guts in the past two WJC's for Team Canada. All along all ya heard from Team USA, we can beat, we are gonna beat them, we are better them, where the fuck is our moxy and cockiness, we are just a tad to proper for my liking.

The defense they chose was pretty fucking lame. Not saying that Dumba should have been there, but Dumba is the kind of D-man that can lay out some real nasty, mean checks. The D lacked that presence. Not enough character in that room. Not all that impressed with Huberdeau and Schieffle in the mean something games. The list goes on. Our biggest weakness was Defense, Goaltending, Coaching, Character/grit and puck possession and decision making. We need more of a Bobby 'Fuck You' Clarke attitude on team Canada than the nice guys
If it was any other tournament I would agree. But Dumba woulda been sitting on the sidelines. Look at some of the shit people were tossed out of games for. Camara gets 5 and a game for one of the cleanest hits I've ever seen. This tournament is for skill and hustle, not big bodies and hard hitters.

The other shit I agree with.

Re: World Juniors 2013

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:16 pm
by Strangelove
RoyalDude wrote: Our biggest weakness was Defense, Goaltending, Coaching, Character/grit and puck possession and decision making. We need more of a Bobby 'Fuck You' Clarke attitude on team Canada than the nice guys.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING DUDE!!! :thumbs:

BTW, nice to see you slagging a team other than your Vancouver Canucks big guy. :wink:

Re: World Juniors 2013

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:22 am
by Topper
The asshole effect is not what is needed on the world jr. team. One of the biggest problems this team had was figuring out what an IIHF penalty is and spent to much time in the penalty box or the press box.

There was no cohesion to the team. It was a collection of individuals. Defensemen never never did play as pairs.

Too much emphasis was placed on the summer camp and Larionov tourney when it came to selection instead of the players performance in the here and now. Sprott admitted that when he picked Subban as his started despite being out performed by Billington in the selection camp and the pre tourney games. It enforced an entitlement attitude. As I noted earlier, too much Hollywood, not enough Frankie.

This falls directly at the feet of Hockey Canada and Sprott. I don't think anyone can argue that this wasn't a talented collection of individuals, but they never became a team.

Re: World Juniors 2013

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:05 pm
by Per
RoyalDude wrote:Not saying that Dumba should have been there, but Dumba is the kind of D-man that can lay out some real nasty, mean checks.
Real nasty, mean checks tend to get you suspended in international hockey (and increasingly in the NHL as well).
Thus I do not think that's a working strategy. Actually, it does seem that Canada initially tried to go that way, but with two guys suspended and one almost, but cleared after reviewing the videos, they had to go back to the drawing board.

Looking forward to the final tomorrow! 8-)

Re: World Juniors 2013

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:24 pm
by Strangelove
Topper wrote: The asshole effect is not what is needed on the world jr. team. One of the biggest problems this team had was figuring out what an IIHF penalty is and spent to much time in the penalty box or the press box.
Well... I... need it.

Bring on a leader who happens to be an asshole and work on the PK says I. :mex:

And oh yeah, find a decent goaltender.
Topper wrote: Sprott admitted that when he picked Subban as his started despite being out performed by Billington
:evil:
Topper wrote: As I noted earlier, too much Hollywood, not enough Frankie.
Yeah.... or not enough Clarkie. :wink:

Re: World Juniors 2013

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:22 pm
by Per
Sigh. Just what we needed - another silver. We have nine of them from the WJC, but only two golds (1981&2012). :evil:

Re: World Juniors 2013

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:59 pm
by ukcanuck
Per wrote:Sigh. Just what we needed - another silver. We have nine of them from the WJC, but only two golds (1981&2012). :evil:
Lol man are you looking for sympathy in the wrong place....perhaps try between "shit and syphillus" in the dictionary?