GDT: Canucks vs Blues. Game 4, 7:30 PM SN

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Re: GDT: Canucks vs Blues. Game 4, 7:30 PM SN

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The Brown Wizard wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:21 am Gohmert wants his own ballgag and a spot beside Reef and Tuna in the trunk?
Your an ass licker extraordinaire. Watch the effing games and quit trying to be what you think is one of the good ole boys.
The team played like crap. I'd feel a lot better if Green said just that.

They were the Stanley cup champs in games one and two last I checked, too.

The "Kids" did not give it their all. What flavor of glasses were you wearing last night?

Seven powerplays with no results. Most of the time they couldn't hold the zone for more than one attempt.

Canucks "can" be much better and I hope they show that otherwise we have two more games to watch.

I think part of what we're seeing is an inexperienced coach in new territory.

Did you listen to his interview?
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Meds wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am

Vancouver is the faster team. Can you explain why St Louis is the team always in delivering the body with multiple forecheckers? The Canucks send in a token flyby. Send them all. Who cares if we only leave one man back. Risk it. If the Blues dmen look up and see a wall of stink whales coming at them and then said wall punishes with a finished check every time the ice will cease to be so tilted in St Loo’s favour.

That’s what leaving it all out there would look like.
That is what I saw, a lot of hitting the boards instead of the guy, just a couple guys are doing it consistently. The team cannot match up to St. Louis size but they need to make the Blues D pay for having the puck, look at the Canucks D, they are starting to look scared when they have the puck in their own end and it does not help when the refs dont blow the whistle for late hits.
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Curmudgeon wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am His nickname needs to change from "Tuna" or "Shotgun" to "Sweetener", as in "the sweetener to move Eriksson's contract to Ottawa".
I'm onboard with that. Benning has built a team with character, and sadly Jake doesn't have that. He's just a passenger.
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2Fingers wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:18 am
Meds wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am

Vancouver is the faster team. Can you explain why St Louis is the team always in delivering the body with multiple forecheckers? The Canucks send in a token flyby. Send them all. Who cares if we only leave one man back. Risk it. If the Blues dmen look up and see a wall of stink whales coming at them and then said wall punishes with a finished check every time the ice will cease to be so tilted in St Loo’s favour.

That’s what leaving it all out there would look like.
That is what I saw, a lot of hitting the boards instead of the guy, just a couple guys are doing it consistently. The team cannot match up to St. Louis size but they need to make the Blues D pay for having the puck, look at the Canucks D, they are starting to look scared when they have the puck in their own end and it does not help when the refs dont blow the whistle for late hits.
Why Tyler Myers is severely missed.
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Re: GDT: Canucks vs Blues. Game 4, 7:30 PM SN

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SKYO wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:48 am
2Fingers wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:18 am
Meds wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am

Vancouver is the faster team. Can you explain why St Louis is the team always in delivering the body with multiple forecheckers? The Canucks send in a token flyby. Send them all. Who cares if we only leave one man back. Risk it. If the Blues dmen look up and see a wall of stink whales coming at them and then said wall punishes with a finished check every time the ice will cease to be so tilted in St Loo’s favour.

That’s what leaving it all out there would look like.
That is what I saw, a lot of hitting the boards instead of the guy, just a couple guys are doing it consistently. The team cannot match up to St. Louis size but they need to make the Blues D pay for having the puck, look at the Canucks D, they are starting to look scared when they have the puck in their own end and it does not help when the refs dont blow the whistle for late hits.
Why Tyler Myers is severely missed.
Unless he is dying he needs to take an aspirin or 10 and get back into the next game. Him playing at 50% may be better than others on the team.
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SKYO wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:48 am
2Fingers wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:18 am
Meds wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am

Vancouver is the faster team. Can you explain why St Louis is the team always in delivering the body with multiple forecheckers? The Canucks send in a token flyby. Send them all. Who cares if we only leave one man back. Risk it. If the Blues dmen look up and see a wall of stink whales coming at them and then said wall punishes with a finished check every time the ice will cease to be so tilted in St Loo’s favour.

That’s what leaving it all out there would look like.
That is what I saw, a lot of hitting the boards instead of the guy, just a couple guys are doing it consistently. The team cannot match up to St. Louis size but they need to make the Blues D pay for having the puck, look at the Canucks D, they are starting to look scared when they have the puck in their own end and it does not help when the refs dont blow the whistle for late hits.
Why Tyler Myers is severely missed.
Again, he is missed and we could absolutely use him but there are many other warts that are showing the last couple games as well. Shitty breakout passes, ineffective PP, terrible support from the wingers, Marky’s rebound control etc..
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Micky wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:10 am
The Brown Wizard wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:21 am Gohmert wants his own ballgag and a spot beside Reef and Tuna in the trunk?
Your an ass licker extraordinaire. Watch the effing games and quit trying to be what you think is one of the good ole boys.
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2Fingers wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:08 am
SKYO wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:48 am
2Fingers wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:18 am
Meds wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am

Vancouver is the faster team. Can you explain why St Louis is the team always in delivering the body with multiple forecheckers? The Canucks send in a token flyby. Send them all. Who cares if we only leave one man back. Risk it. If the Blues dmen look up and see a wall of stink whales coming at them and then said wall punishes with a finished check every time the ice will cease to be so tilted in St Loo’s favour.

That’s what leaving it all out there would look like.
That is what I saw, a lot of hitting the boards instead of the guy, just a couple guys are doing it consistently. The team cannot match up to St. Louis size but they need to make the Blues D pay for having the puck, look at the Canucks D, they are starting to look scared when they have the puck in their own end and it does not help when the refs dont blow the whistle for late hits.
Why Tyler Myers is severely missed.
Unless he is dying he needs to take an aspirin or 10 and get back into the next game. Him playing at 50% may be better than others on the team.
No question Tyler Myers ability is missed. Almost as much as his on-ice presence. He doesn't fight all that much but he brings some accountability for reckless, imprudent actions from the other side. It's a big part of what he's paid for.
But team grit and determination is a team mindset. Our team shied away too much last night. Worse then the night before.
When something is clearly not working, Green has to do something as a coach. Edler and Stecher have had big parts four years to work on their
communication and it's worse then ever.
Also, the team and coach cannot allow these cheap shots to our best players. The Blues were all over Horvat right from the start and are
continuously running at Hughes at every opportunity. Others like Petey, Miller too. Travis need to start playing some games with the refs. calling
them over to the bench to explain themselves, etc. Has to let it be known, this team wont be fucked with.
Braydon Schenn was way too effective. Hope the're watching that on the instructional video spotlighter.
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The Brown Wizard wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:22 am The gassed canucks played a gutsy game against one of the top 3 teams in the NHL. How the fuck can you get mad at the kids when they put it all out there.

Game 5 will see a far better and rested canucks team. These kids have heart
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Curmudgeon wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:12 pm Bailey in for Jake please. No Gaudette.
I agree. Virtanen has goose eggs across the board and only 11 hits in the 7 games he's played. If he can't score, can't check, and doesn't hit, what is he actually good for? If he wasn't the first pick of the Benning era and was from anywhere but B.C. he'd likely be gone by now.

His nickname needs to change from "Tuna" or "Shotgun" to "Sweetener", as in "the sweetener to move Eriksson's contract to Ottawa".
Yes, or 'Sweetie' for short.

I wonder about swapping him straight up for someone's else's problem like Jesse Puljujarvi or Lias Andersson?

Per could maybe tell us more about Andersson but he won me over when he tossed that silver medal in the stands after a blatant screw job from the referees that night. Was disappointed to see him bail on the Rangers but they do rush their prospects.
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The Canucks have no chance in winning this series if their aim is to match the Blues physicality.

Because the Blues are better than the Canucks at that game. The Canucks must change the frame.

And the Canucks are not “playing scared,” in my view. They are battling hard. And they are hanging in the fight, bending much more than breaking.

But they didn’t play sharp for large stretches of the past two games. They must play sharp to win. Put passes on tape and not in feet, open the game by making it a track meet as much as possible, and they can win.
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UWSaint wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:29 pm The Canucks have no chance in winning this series if their aim is to match the Blues physicality.

Because the Blues are better than the Canucks at that game. The Canucks must change the frame.

And the Canucks are not “playing scared,” in my view. They are battling hard. And they are hanging in the fight, bending much more than breaking.

But they didn’t play sharp for large stretches of the past two games. They must play sharp to win. Put passes on tape and not in feet, open the game by making it a track meet as much as possible, and they can win.
I’ve said they are playing scared, but I should reclarify that I don’t think they are playing scared of the big bad blues physical game. They are playing like they are scared to make a mistake.

Do I think they can match the blues physically? No. Should they try? Not in the corners, but on the forecheck they absolutely must apply the same pressure. Maybe they don’t hit as hard, not as often, but they need to be right there pressuring the puck retrieving St Louis player. Right now they aren’t.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:22 pm Too bad we have to wait another year for Podkolzin and Tryamkin
Man, the Tryamkinsaurus is the type of guy we need in this kind of series. He'd throw those Blues around like a rag doll. :D
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:52 pm Per could maybe tell us more about Andersson but he won me over when he tossed that silver medal in the stands after a blatant screw job from the referees that night. Was disappointed to see him bail on the Rangers but they do rush their prospects.
I'd say he's a big question mark at this point.

He did not handle the situation in the Rangers organisation well. He felt alone, frustrated, suffered from insomnia, developed bad habits (according to himself) like playing computer games all night and not being able to sleep without pills.

After he bailed on the Rangers he returned home to Sweden, and his old SHL team (HV71) contacted the Rangers and were granted permission to have him on the team. He noted himself that he was not in game shape, but stepped in and scored 12 points (5+7) in 15 games. The HV71 coach says that he added leadership and was an assett in the locker room.

Ahead of the current playoffs, Andersson notified the Rangers that he was not interested in attending camp, and the Rangers and HV71 has now agreed that he will spend the 20/21 in Sweden with HV71.

So what do we make from this?

I do not think he will ever be comfortable playing for the Rangers, albeit he is saying positive things about how they have been understanding and constructive in helping sort out the situation.

He was the best point scorer in the Swedish Junior league in 2016.

He won the Swedish Championship in 2017 with HV71, scoring 19 points in 41 regular season games and 5 in 16 in the playoffs.

He captained the 2017/18 silver medalist Junior Crowns at the WJC, on a team that also contained Petey, Alexander Nylander and Rasmus Dahlin, and he was the leading goal scorer of that team (6 goals in 7 games) and was tied for first in points (7 in 7) with Petey and the young Nylander.

He then won gold with the Three Crowns at the 2018 World Championship.

So far everything looks bright and shiny, right?

He has played 66 NHL games, spread over three seasons, but only scored 9 points (3+6), but done reasonably well in the AHL with 39 points in 74 games (15+24).

What can I say? Hopefully the disaster in New York was just a glitch. He obviously has the skill, the tools, and has shown leadership and positive attitude when playing in Sweden. Back in his J18 days he was the most penalized player in the league, so there may even be a hint of a mean streak...

I'm sure the Rangers are only holding on to him to try to get something in a trade, and if they've given up on him, maybe he won't cost all that much.

He knows Petey since their junior national team days, and might not feel as alone and abandoned in a Vancouver setting. It's also a young team, so he could hopefully also gel with Boeser and Hughes, and there are a lot of older compatriots around (Markström, Edler, Eriksson, the Sedins...) that could help him settle in and adjust. Loui has been known to entertain the other Swedes at his house, have them over for dinner and such.

I don't know, if he's not too expensive, maybe he could be worth taking a look at. Especially if he does well in the SHL this winter.
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