Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Vader » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:40 pm

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Rumsfeld wrote:I just don't see how spending years developing a first-round pick into an elite player and then flipping that elite player for another first-round pick can be considered a good move.


C'mon dude, Schneids was drafted 26th overall and we got a 9th overall for him = WE WIN!! :thumbs:



So...you would have traded Bieksa for a 4th rounder....or Kesler for a 20th overall? :eh:
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Rumsfeld » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:44 pm

Ignore him Vader, he's clearly drunk.
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:01 pm

Vader wrote:
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Rumsfeld wrote:I just don't see how spending years developing a first-round pick into an elite player and then flipping that elite player for another first-round pick can be considered a good move.


C'mon dude, Schneids was drafted 26th overall and we got a 9th overall for him = WE WIN!! :thumbs:



So...you would have traded Bieksa for a 4th rounder....or Kesler for a 20th overall? :eh:


Well I was obviously joking but wouldn't that equate to a late 1st for Bieksa and a 6th overall for Kesler? Image

But hey neither Bieksa nor Kesler are mentally-ill gingers, so why are we talking about this? :eh:
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby RoyalDude » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:23 pm

Old Eye Bags dropped the ball, had no choice but to trade Ginger. No GM wanted that contract and Aquamarine kyboshed a buyout. Completely fucked situation for luggage Eyes so freckles had to go. That being said got a decent prospect in return, yes he's a prospect but fuck it I'm rolling the dice on him cause there ain't much else to feel good about around Nuckleville regarding the future.

Still think Tomato Face could use a few good more prospects as this team is still rather thin on the farm
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Rumsfeld » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:33 pm

Mr.Miyagi wrote:I don't have the patience to filter through all of the posts but here is my two cents:

With either Schneider or Luongo we were going to be OK. I haven't commented on it at all because right from the beginning I have really believed that.


Miyagi not just paint fence, he sit on it too.

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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:41 pm

LOL @ Schneider being called an elite player. Just play 30 games son , that's all we need. Not saying he couldn't eventually develop into an elite goaltender but to call him one now is clownish a la Calpuck style. :lol:
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby BladesofSteel » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:21 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:Using the best two-way centre in the game (Bergeron) as a projection for Horvat seems incredibly optimistic.

I'll admit it makes me a bit hard though.


I merely compared the style of Bo's play, along his with physical ability and size to two highly successful players of the same mold. Both guys who averaged a point a game in Junior, and who happen to be key core players on their current clubs.

You said projection, not I.
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:34 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:LOL @ Schneider being called an elite player. Just play 30 games son , that's all we need. Not saying he couldn't eventually develop into an elite goaltender but to call him one now is clownish a la Calpuck style. :lol:


Yup, as of today he's a 27-year-old backup. :drink:

By way of comparison, when Bobby Lou was that age he had been a starter for 6 years and played 341 NHL games.

Just sayin.
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Rumsfeld » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:45 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:LOL @ Schneider being called an elite player. Just play 30 games son , that's all we need. Not saying he couldn't eventually develop into an elite goaltender but to call him one now is clownish a la Calpuck style. :lol:


Look at his stats since he entered the league. They are amazing.

He took the job of an elite goaltender on a lifetime deal.

He's an elite player. There are maybe three goaltenders in the league right now I'd take over him. Quick, Lundquist, Rask... Rinne I'd consider.
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Rumsfeld » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:47 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:LOL @ Schneider being called an elite player. Just play 30 games son , that's all we need. Not saying he couldn't eventually develop into an elite goaltender but to call him one now is clownish a la Calpuck style. :lol:


Yup, as of today he's a 27-year-old backup. :drink:


LOFL. Go to bed Doc, you're drunk.

Was Luongo playing behind a goaltender like... Luongo all those years? And to think he never made the playoffs even once in that time...
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:56 pm

Just sayin Marty is still the #1 in Jersey.

Just sayin. :drink:
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Rumsfeld » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:59 pm

Strangelove wrote:Just sayin Marty is still the #1 in Jersey.

Just sayin. :drink:


We'll see.
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Strangelove » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:04 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:
Strangelove wrote:Just sayin Marty is still the #1 in Jersey.

Just sayin. :drink:


We'll see.


Not to be an ass, but wouldn't that make him a 27-year-old backup?

Wouldn't it huh?

Wouldn't it?

Am I crazy or has he never started more than 33 games in an NHL season? :drink:

And he's 27 right?

Just making conversation...

*sticks pin in Schneider voodoo doll*
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Meds » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:51 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:LOL @ Schneider being called an elite player. Just play 30 games son , that's all we need. Not saying he couldn't eventually develop into an elite goaltender but to call him one now is clownish a la Calpuck style. :lol:


Look at his stats since he entered the league. They are amazing.

He took the job of an elite goaltender on a lifetime deal.

He's an elite player. There are maybe three goaltenders in the league right now I'd take over him. Quick, Lundquist, Rask... Rinne I'd consider.


I'm still confused as to how some people think that Schneider "took" Lou's job. Luongo was playing some of his best hockey against LA. There was absolutely no reason to replace him.....proof is in the pudding, the Canucks still lost in 5 games, and it's a stretch to say that Cory won us game 4, more likely it was Henrik and Daniel. This season Luongo was again playing at the top of his game against the Sharks in the opening round. Schneider came back and took over.....and the Canucks were out in 4, but that's not Schneider's fault, no, he stole the show and was the only reason the Canucks were even hanging in there in game 3.....

......no wait.....

that's not right.....




To clarify, I'm not saying Schneider is shit or that Luongo > Schneider. I'm just shining a big light on something that people like Rum(ster) like to ignore when they hold Schneider up on a pedestal while casting Luongo into the the pit.
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Re: Luongo and Schneider Revisited (or is it continued?)

Postby Rumsfeld » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:05 pm

Luongo sucked in game 2 against LA.

Schneider from that point on was the Canucks starting goaltender. He was fucking lights out in games 3 and 4 against LA and all of last season. He was injured and rusty in game 3 against the Sharks, and that's the only poor playoff performance he's had.

Of course he stole Luongo's job, WTF, you think they gave him the starter's job last season for shits and giggles? :lol: He outperformed Lou in camp, the goaltending coach gushed about how much better he was, Gillis and AV both announced he was the better goaltender, he took Lou's fucking job. The Canucks had EVERY REASON to keep Luongo as #1 considering his ego and his contract and yet they couldn't because they knew Schneids was that much better.

Holy shit some of you guys are stubborn. You're arguing actual facts Meds. Luongo losing his job to Cory is not a matter of opinion. It actually happened -- so stop being a facepalm artist. 8-)
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