That's all fine but like I said, we'd have to give up more to land Weber AND Forsberg.Uncle dans leg wrote:Agreed that Kesler is our most dynamic forward but...if you have a shot at SW, you do what it takes.Rumsfeld wrote: Well, look at ot this way. Edler plus our lousy 1st round pick is not even CLOSE to being enough to land Weber. Especially given Edler's season.
I'm sure Kesler has excellent trade value so if you added him in you might get Weber plus a throw-in... but then we just have an even bigger hole to plug.
Honestly, I know he's a dick but out of all our forwards Kesler is the guy I'd say we HAVE to hang on to, at least for a season. We haven't seen him play healthy and with a training camp in a long time, and he'll be motivated to prove some shit to folks this year. Plus his contract is pretty affordable.
Filip Forsberg is a young, dynamic winger/centre who would be a downgrade admittedly but with Keslers' recent health concerns I feel this is the best time to move him. The way Kes plays will have him in suit and tie more often the older he gets. Add in the dickhead factor and I just feel this is the time to maximize return on him and put our resources into a different asset, one more respected and dynamic at his position.
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Edler and Kesler > Weber.Rumsfeld wrote:That's all fine but like I said, we'd have to give up more to land Weber AND Forsberg.Uncle dans leg wrote:Agreed that Kesler is our most dynamic forward but...if you have a shot at SW, you do what it takes.Rumsfeld wrote: Well, look at ot this way. Edler plus our lousy 1st round pick is not even CLOSE to being enough to land Weber. Especially given Edler's season.
I'm sure Kesler has excellent trade value so if you added him in you might get Weber plus a throw-in... but then we just have an even bigger hole to plug.
Honestly, I know he's a dick but out of all our forwards Kesler is the guy I'd say we HAVE to hang on to, at least for a season. We haven't seen him play healthy and with a training camp in a long time, and he'll be motivated to prove some shit to folks this year. Plus his contract is pretty affordable.
Filip Forsberg is a young, dynamic winger/centre who would be a downgrade admittedly but with Keslers' recent health concerns I feel this is the best time to move him. The way Kes plays will have him in suit and tie more often the older he gets. Add in the dickhead factor and I just feel this is the time to maximize return on him and put our resources into a different asset, one more respected and dynamic at his position.
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That's not the hypothetical trade on the table here.Island Nucklehead wrote: Edler and Kesler > Weber.
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Ok...maybe/probably/likely...Rumsfeld wrote:
That's all fine but like I said, we'd have to give up more to land Weber AND Forsberg.
I suppose in a hypothetical trade rant like this the sky's the limit. I could see Nashville looking at moving SW for the right price. He does carry a hell of a cap hit which has to sting but if they can get 2 top level players for what they pay 1 now, who knows.
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Forsberg will be a star in 2 to 3 years. He has elite hands and speed so it's just a matter of time. I wanted him since I saw him play in Washington so he's likely next to untouchable.Island Nucklehead wrote:
Edler and Kesler > Weber.
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My bad, so it's Kesler, Edler, 1st for Weber and a prospect? Cool, I still say no.Uncle dans leg wrote:Forsberg will be a star in 2 to 3 years. He has elite hands and speed so it's just a matter of time. I wanted him since I saw him play in Washington so he's likely next to untouchable.Island Nucklehead wrote:
Edler and Kesler > Weber.
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It was actually Kesler, Edler and a 1st for Weber, Forsberg and Nashville's 1st which is fourth overall.Island Nucklehead wrote:My bad, so it's Kesler, Edler, 1st for Weber and a prospect? Cool, I still say no.Uncle dans leg wrote:Forsberg will be a star in 2 to 3 years. He has elite hands and speed so it's just a matter of time. I wanted him since I saw him play in Washington so he's likely next to untouchable.Island Nucklehead wrote:
Edler and Kesler > Weber.
Meaning the worst case scenario is that the top three teams pick who they should and you get to choose between Barkov (6'3 Finn who garners comparisons to Joe Thornton) and Nichushkin (6'4 Russian who garners comparisons to Malkin).
David Poile would have to be suffering early onset dementia to pull the trigger on a deal like that.
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Total wackadoo of a trade proposal.dbr wrote:David Poile would have to be suffering early onset dementia to pull the trigger on a deal like that.
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Well I like itEddy Punch Clock wrote:Total wackadoo of a trade proposal.dbr wrote:David Poile would have to be suffering early onset dementia to pull the trigger on a deal like that.
Sure it's out there but every now and then...
To be honest I thought they picked about 10 spots lower
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"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."
How about a top 2 dman.
How about a top 2 dman.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."
How about a top 2 dman.
Ballard it is then!
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Ballard and our 1st plus Lapierre for their 1st.Hockey Widow wrote:SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."
How about a top 2 dman.
Ballard it is then!
Then....
Edler, Schroeder, 5th overall pick, and Joslin, to Avs for SOB and 1st overall.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?
It is the same guy who dealt a recent 3rd overall pick for Tim Gleason - although in hindsight he might have got the better player.SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."
How about a top 2 dman.
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Hockey Widow wrote:Ballard it is then!SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."
How about a top 2 dman.
Gleason, Ballard could have potential to be a Gleason sooo he should net us a 5th overall pick, good ideal hw!dbr wrote: It is the same guy who dealt a recent 3rd overall pick for Tim Gleason - although in hindsight he might have got the better player.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.