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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Rumsfeld » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:48 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:Well, look at ot this way. Edler plus our lousy 1st round pick is not even CLOSE to being enough to land Weber. Especially given Edler's season.

I'm sure Kesler has excellent trade value so if you added him in you might get Weber plus a throw-in... but then we just have an even bigger hole to plug.

Honestly, I know he's a dick but out of all our forwards Kesler is the guy I'd say we HAVE to hang on to, at least for a season. We haven't seen him play healthy and with a training camp in a long time, and he'll be motivated to prove some shit to folks this year. Plus his contract is pretty affordable.

Agreed that Kesler is our most dynamic forward but...if you have a shot at SW, you do what it takes.

Filip Forsberg is a young, dynamic winger/centre who would be a downgrade admittedly but with Keslers' recent health concerns I feel this is the best time to move him. The way Kes plays will have him in suit and tie more often the older he gets. Add in the dickhead factor and I just feel this is the time to maximize return on him and put our resources into a different asset, one more respected and dynamic at his position.


That's all fine but like I said, we'd have to give up more to land Weber AND Forsberg.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Island Nucklehead » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:51 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote:Well, look at ot this way. Edler plus our lousy 1st round pick is not even CLOSE to being enough to land Weber. Especially given Edler's season.

I'm sure Kesler has excellent trade value so if you added him in you might get Weber plus a throw-in... but then we just have an even bigger hole to plug.

Honestly, I know he's a dick but out of all our forwards Kesler is the guy I'd say we HAVE to hang on to, at least for a season. We haven't seen him play healthy and with a training camp in a long time, and he'll be motivated to prove some shit to folks this year. Plus his contract is pretty affordable.

Agreed that Kesler is our most dynamic forward but...if you have a shot at SW, you do what it takes.

Filip Forsberg is a young, dynamic winger/centre who would be a downgrade admittedly but with Keslers' recent health concerns I feel this is the best time to move him. The way Kes plays will have him in suit and tie more often the older he gets. Add in the dickhead factor and I just feel this is the time to maximize return on him and put our resources into a different asset, one more respected and dynamic at his position.


That's all fine but like I said, we'd have to give up more to land Weber AND Forsberg.


Edler and Kesler > Weber.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Rumsfeld » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:53 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:Edler and Kesler > Weber.


That's not the hypothetical trade on the table here.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Uncle dans leg » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:54 pm

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That's all fine but like I said, we'd have to give up more to land Weber AND Forsberg.

Ok...maybe/probably/likely...

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I suppose in a hypothetical trade rant like this the sky's the limit. I could see Nashville looking at moving SW for the right price. He does carry a hell of a cap hit which has to sting but if they can get 2 top level players for what they pay 1 now, who knows.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Uncle dans leg » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:56 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Edler and Kesler > Weber.

Forsberg will be a star in 2 to 3 years. He has elite hands and speed so it's just a matter of time. I wanted him since I saw him play in Washington so he's likely next to untouchable.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Island Nucklehead » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:03 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Edler and Kesler > Weber.

Forsberg will be a star in 2 to 3 years. He has elite hands and speed so it's just a matter of time. I wanted him since I saw him play in Washington so he's likely next to untouchable.


My bad, so it's Kesler, Edler, 1st for Weber and a prospect? Cool, I still say no.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby dbr » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:38 am

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Edler and Kesler > Weber.

Forsberg will be a star in 2 to 3 years. He has elite hands and speed so it's just a matter of time. I wanted him since I saw him play in Washington so he's likely next to untouchable.


My bad, so it's Kesler, Edler, 1st for Weber and a prospect? Cool, I still say no.


It was actually Kesler, Edler and a 1st for Weber, Forsberg and Nashville's 1st which is fourth overall.

Meaning the worst case scenario is that the top three teams pick who they should and you get to choose between Barkov (6'3 Finn who garners comparisons to Joe Thornton) and Nichushkin (6'4 Russian who garners comparisons to Malkin).

David Poile would have to be suffering early onset dementia to pull the trigger on a deal like that.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Eddy Punch Clock » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:21 am

dbr wrote:David Poile would have to be suffering early onset dementia to pull the trigger on a deal like that.


Total wackadoo of a trade proposal.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Uncle dans leg » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:39 am

Eddy Punch Clock wrote:
dbr wrote:David Poile would have to be suffering early onset dementia to pull the trigger on a deal like that.


Total wackadoo of a trade proposal.

Well I like it :evil:

Sure it's out there but every now and then...

To be honest I thought they picked about 10 spots lower
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby SKYO » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:37 pm

"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."

How about a top 2 dman. 8-)
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Hockey Widow » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:41 pm

SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."

How about a top 2 dman. 8-)



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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Meds » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:47 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:
SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."

How about a top 2 dman. 8-)



Ballard it is then!


Ballard and our 1st plus Lapierre for their 1st.

Then....

Edler, Schroeder, 5th overall pick, and Joslin, to Avs for SOB and 1st overall.

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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby Island Nucklehead » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:52 pm

Luongo, Edler and our First

To Florida For

2nd Overall, Jovo, Parros



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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby dbr » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:02 am

SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."

How about a top 2 dman. 8-)


It is the same guy who dealt a recent 3rd overall pick for Tim Gleason - although in hindsight he might have got the better player.
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Re: Should Gillis Trade Alexander Edler?

Postby SKYO » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:54 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
SKYO wrote:"#Canes GM Rutherford says he would entertain offers for their number 5 pick if a trade involved them receiving a top 4 d-man."

How about a top 2 dman. 8-)

Ballard it is then!

dbr wrote:It is the same guy who dealt a recent 3rd overall pick for Tim Gleason - although in hindsight he might have got the better player.


Gleason, Ballard could have potential to be a Gleason sooo he should net us a 5th overall pick, good ideal hw!
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