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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:46 pm

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There must be a ton of threads & posts on Calpuck over the years deriding the Oilers for signing Lucic and Talbot... wonder what they're saying about them now?

Can't see them being too vocal about Smith yet, since he was the Flames playoff goalie.
Calpuck hates the trade, and is in meltdown. 60+ plus pages of griping about it.
:lol: Enjoy; https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=174886
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:28 am

is Lucic the slowest player in the league? The speed on the wings for the Flames is disastrous with the Turtle and the Looch on the same team. Who wins that race?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:25 pm

This trade never gets made if Ferland signs with Calgary.

I think both Lucic and Neal will have a decent year, rebounding if you will. Let’s see if it carries through for the duration of the contracts.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Hockey Widow » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:41 pm

Another thing on the Lucic trade, while he agreed to waive his NMC to go to Calgary, Calgary had to agree to abide by his NMC moving forward. In other words he still has a full NMC. He will be required to be protected in the expansion draft however there is plenty of time to convince him to waive it for said draft.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by BCExpat » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:22 am

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Another thing on the Lucic trade, while he agreed to waive his NMC to go to Calgary, Calgary had to agree to abide by his NMC moving forward. In other words he still has a full NMC. He will be required to be protected in the expansion draft however there is plenty of time to convince him to waive it for said draft.
I think I'm more worried about Neal regaining his 20 goal per season scoring pace more than I'm worried about what Lucic is going to do on the Flames. If Neal shits the bed in Edmonton and only scores 7 goals like he did in Calgary, then I'm not nearly as concerned. Let's face it, as Doc said, it's basically a garbage for garbage trade. Both are slow, over the hill players. There are some rumblings around that Neal is a locker room cancer - apparently he wasn't too popular with his team mates. Maybe Treliving realized that Neal would never work out in Calgary, so he had no choice but to trade him. The trade does make the Flames a bit tougher, but I still hate it.

As for the expansion draft, I'm sure Treliving has a pretty good idea of what he is going to do with Lucic. Hopefully they don't have to protect him - ie - he waives his NMC before that.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:47 am

BCExpat wrote:
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:41 pm
Another thing on the Lucic trade, while he agreed to waive his NMC to go to Calgary, Calgary had to agree to abide by his NMC moving forward. In other words he still has a full NMC. He will be required to be protected in the expansion draft however there is plenty of time to convince him to waive it for said draft.
I think I'm more worried about Neal regaining his 20 goal per season scoring pace more than I'm worried about what Lucic is going to do on the Flames. If Neal shits the bed in Edmonton and only scores 7 goals like he did in Calgary, then I'm not nearly as concerned. Let's face it, as Doc said, it's basically a garbage for garbage trade. Both are slow, over the hill players. There are some rumblings around that Neal is a locker room cancer - apparently he wasn't too popular with his team mates. Maybe Treliving realized that Neal would never work out in Calgary, so he had no choice but to trade him. The trade does make the Flames a bit tougher, but I still hate it.

As for the expansion draft, I'm sure Treliving has a pretty good idea of what he is going to do with Lucic. Hopefully they don't have to protect him - ie - he waives his NMC before that.
May as well look at the bright side. You make a great fan for your team. Is your hockey forum calming down some? If the Flames
make a concerted effort to carefully regulate Lucic's usage and ice time through the regular season, (your team is deep enough to do it), then
maybe he'll make a positive difference for you in the playoffs.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Uncle dans leg » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:08 am

I was suprised how bad Neal was for the Flames so i think your concerns might be valid. Hes never looked like this as far as Ive seen in his career before.

I would say edm is a better fit with the players in their roster than cal. Gaudreau is speed and shifty change of pace, moneyhands is a shooter like Neal and who know what tkachunk is...rebounds? None of those 3 necessarily compliment his style of game which is a forecheck and turnover, open man in slot type of offence.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Did Blob quit?
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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RoyalDude wrote:
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Did Blob quit?
You scared him off
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by RoyalDude » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:39 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:
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Did Blob quit?
You scared him off
I think Ron Francis getting the job in Seattle was the last straw
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:10 am

RoyalDude wrote:
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Did Blob quit?
He said he'd been real fucking sick. Maybe he had a relapse. These things can happen.
Think I remember someone was a bit of a jerk too but I'm middle aged and often forget shit..

Been known to misspell the occasional word here and there too.

Or so I've heard
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:45 pm

BCExpat wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:22 am
Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:41 pm
Another thing on the Lucic trade, while he agreed to waive his NMC to go to Calgary, Calgary had to agree to abide by his NMC moving forward. In other words he still has a full NMC. He will be required to be protected in the expansion draft however there is plenty of time to convince him to waive it for said draft.
I think I'm more worried about Neal regaining his 20 goal per season scoring pace more than I'm worried about what Lucic is going to do on the Flames. If Neal shits the bed in Edmonton and only scores 7 goals like he did in Calgary, then I'm not nearly as concerned. Let's face it, as Doc said, it's basically a garbage for garbage trade. Both are slow, over the hill players. There are some rumblings around that Neal is a locker room cancer - apparently he wasn't too popular with his team mates. Maybe Treliving realized that Neal would never work out in Calgary, so he had no choice but to trade him. The trade does make the Flames a bit tougher, but I still hate it.

As for the expansion draft, I'm sure Treliving has a pretty good idea of what he is going to do with Lucic. Hopefully they don't have to protect him - ie - he waives his NMC before that.
Yeah I guess there's a chance Neal could find some chemistry with McDink.

I have heard the same in regards to Neal being a cancer.

Heard he demands more icetime than he earns.

Heard he rips into teammates for mistakes while ignoring his own.

Lucic is much more of a team player from where I sit -> for whatever that's worth.

Yeah, Treliving had to get Neal out of there and no doubt he had few options.

I'm also confident Lucic will waive for the X-draft.

He knows Seattle won't take him, and if they do, well it's just one year and close to home.

And like I said, he's a team player.
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