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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:16 am
by Mickey107
Matt Cullen officially announces his retirement ...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mat ... 1-seasons/

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:27 am
by Carl Yagro
Uncle dans leg wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:42 pm Juolevi is over 2 bills now. Hes not razor thin anymore
2 Bills Olaf. He's ain't razor thin no more.

:thumbs:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:03 am
by UWSaint
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:31 pm I actually have grown a bit fond of Virtanen.

Olaf on the other hand.....
JV at a cheap salary is a value add. The team is far better with his speed and occasional aggressive hit when he is in the bottom 6 vs. when he is out of the lineup. (I actually see more value to him and the team when he is not with Horvat or Pettersson because it is a kind of danger that would otherwise not be in the bottom 2 lines). I think it is very unlikely that he pans out to be a reliable scorer (consistent 20+ goals, 45+ points), but his draft position is sunk costs and his is noticeably more effective than replacement level players who are still getting $1 million.

He's also the kind of player that if some other team is projecting to put it altogether and become a force and values him like that, you consider trading. Because the likelihood that happens is small, and if it really happens, the core is crowded and there's probably going to need to be movement.

As for Olaf, we will know a lot more this year, but the Canucks are positioning themselves to assume that any benefit is found money. That's smart, given that he's behind the normal projection curve of a #6. Still, given the injuries and the fact he is a defensemen with a longer development timeline, the Canucks are still panning for gold in gold country.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:06 am
by ESQ
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:31 pm
RoyalDude wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:17 pm As long as we are drafting Virtanen 6th overall Blobbee Arby’s will forever be a Nylander/Ehlers Apologist
I actually have grown a bit fond of Virtanen.

Olaf on the other hand.....
And what about Nylander and Ehlers?

Blob, your thoughts?

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:32 am
by Chef Boi RD
ESQ wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:06 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:31 pm
RoyalDude wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:17 pm As long as we are drafting Virtanen 6th overall Blobbee Arby’s will forever be a Nylander/Ehlers Apologist
I actually have grown a bit fond of Virtanen.

Olaf on the other hand.....
And what about Nylander and Ehlers?

Blob, your thoughts?
Playoff No Shows making the big bucks


Island Nucklehead, your thoughts?

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:42 am
by Blob Mckenzie
ESQ wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:06 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:31 pm
RoyalDude wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:17 pm As long as we are drafting Virtanen 6th overall Blobbee Arby’s will forever be a Nylander/Ehlers Apologist
I actually have grown a bit fond of Virtanen.

Olaf on the other hand.....
And what about Nylander and Ehlers?

Blob, your thoughts?
They were good draft picks

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:44 am
by Island Nucklehead
RoyalDude wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:32 am Island Nucklehead, your thoughts?
Tough to show up if you're not even invited to the rink.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:11 pm
by DonCherry4PM
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:21 pm Right, ship-jumping UFAs get overpaid, Tavares is overpaid...
So based on your above statement, Ericksson was overpaid when he initially signed in Vancouver. Glad you finally admit that.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:52 pm
by DonCherry4PM
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:24 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:23 am Is Lebanc's contract full of bonuses?
No, bonuses are only allowed on ELCs and 35+ contracts now.
Other than signing, reporting and roster bonuses and in certain conditions where a player has played over 400 games, has been on LTIR 100 or more days in the most recent season and signs a one-year SPC.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:00 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
micky107 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:16 am Matt Cullen officially announces his retirement ...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/mat ... 1-seasons/
What a hell of a career. He seems like a pretty decent dude too. His teammates seemed to really like the guy. A pro’s pro. Went out still playing decent hockey.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:00 pm
by Strangelove
DonCherry4PM wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:11 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:21 pm Right, ship-jumping UFAs get overpaid, Tavares is overpaid...
So based on your above statement, Ericksson was overpaid when he initially signed in Vancouver. Glad you finally admit that.
I've always said that about UFAs (including Mr Eriksson).

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:03 pm
by Strangelove
DonCherry4PM wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:52 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:24 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:23 am
ESQ wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:05 pm This Labanc contract in San Jose is weird - 17 goals, 39 assists, 56 points...

...and he signs for $1 million?
Is Lebanc's contract full of bonuses?
No, bonuses are only allowed on ELCs and 35+ contracts now.
Other than signing, reporting and roster bonuses
Obviously, in context, Mad and I were discussing performance bonuses. :hmmm:

"Oh look at me, aren't I great, I have heard of reporting and roster bonuses!!" - DonCherry4PM :lol:

DonCherry4PM wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:52 pm and in certain conditions where a player has played over 400 games, has been on LTIR 100 or more days in the most recent season and signs a one-year SPC.
Okay now that is #3 of the 3 performance bonus types, the one I neglected to mention.

Bravo, give yourself a pat on the back... even though it obviously doesn't apply in the conversation at hand. :hmmm:

Lebanc will receive no more than the $1M we were discussing.

($285K of which comes in the form of a "signing bonus") :drink:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:26 pm
by DonCherry4PM
Strangelove wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:03 pm
DonCherry4PM wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:52 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:24 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:23 am
ESQ wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:05 pm This Labanc contract in San Jose is weird - 17 goals, 39 assists, 56 points...

...and he signs for $1 million?
Is Lebanc's contract full of bonuses?
No, bonuses are only allowed on ELCs and 35+ contracts now.
Other than signing, reporting and roster bonuses
Obviously, in context, Mad and I were discussing performance bonuses. :hmmm:

"Oh look at me, aren't I great, I have heard of reporting and roster bonuses!!" - DonCherry4PM :lol:
Sorry for offending you by adding factual qualifications to your erroneous statement.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:48 pm
by Strangelove
DonCherry4PM wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:26 pm Sorry for trying to derail the conversation in a sad and misguided attempt to exact some form of revenge.

Truth is I don't even know what reporting and roster bonuses are... or if they're included in the AAV.
Fixed for truth and accuracy. :mex:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:12 pm
by DonCherry4PM
Strangelove wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:48 pm
DonCherry4PM wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:26 pm Sorry for trying to derail the conversation in a sad and misguided attempt to exact some form of revenge.

Truth is I don't even know what reporting and roster bonuses are... or if they're included in the AAV.
Fixed for truth and accuracy. :mex:
:roll:

The irony of you speaking about truth and accuracy is quite rich.