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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:02 am
by Uncle dans leg
Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:25 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:02 am
Tavares and Nylander’s cap hits aren’t out of line.
WRONG
Definitely nylanders is. Tavares as a top 10 centre ufa is paid probably about right

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:01 pm
by micky107
Pretty splashy mmm/

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:32 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
That’s an interesting trade for sure

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:37 pm
by vic
ESQ wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:25 am
micky107 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:28 pm
Kevin Kurz

@KKurzNHL
Labanc will have arbitration rights next summer as an RFA (he didn’t this summer). He really is betting on himself as Wilson phrased it. He repeats last season or improves, a big multi-year contract is in his future. But for now, this is a deal that really gives DW flexibility
1:31 PM - 8 Jul 2019
Nothing wrong here.
I still find it very strange. Labanc is underpaid by at least $2 mil, maybe $3 mil. There must be a wink and a handshake, we'll give you all of Thornton's and Marleau's money next year when he finally hangs them up.

A repeat of this year, and arbitration will likely give him $5+.
Even more cap circumvention here - but the league will choose to ignore it...

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:45 pm
by Strangelove
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:02 am
Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:25 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:02 am
Tavares and Nylander’s cap hits aren’t out of line.
WRONG
Definitely nylanders is. Tavares as a top 10 centre ufa is paid probably about right
"as a UFA" in like UFAs get overpaid? :mrgreen:

He had a career year last season, that's not going to continue.

His points-per-game average is less than a point-per.

He's the 3rd highest paid forward in the league, should be around 20th.

His contract takes him to age 34.

Is he $2.5M better than Stamkos, $4.7M better than MacKinnon?

No, of course not.

Tavares is ridiculously overpaid...

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:55 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Not compared to Loui the air thief. Eriksson should be making the league minimum.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:57 pm
by Strangelove
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:55 pm
Eriksson should be making the league minimum.
Gotta love Blob and his super-hyperbole! :lol:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:59 pm
by ESQ
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:55 pm
Not compared to Loui the air thief. Eriksson should be making the league minimum.
WIllie was on a <11-goal pace.

Loui got 11 goals, at a cheaper salary.

What a bargain! :lol:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:04 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
ESQ wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:59 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:55 pm
Not compared to Loui the air thief. Eriksson should be making the league minimum.
WIllie was on a <11-goal pace.

Loui got 11 goals, at a cheaper salary.

What a bargain! :lol:
Nylander didn’t have training camp or proper training for that matter and was coming off back to back 60 + point seasons. Eriksson takes more than two seasons to get 60 points. But please carry on.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:18 pm
by Uncle dans leg
Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:45 pm
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:02 am
Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:25 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:02 am
Tavares and Nylander’s cap hits aren’t out of line.
WRONG
Definitely nylanders is. Tavares as a top 10 centre ufa is paid probably about right
"as a UFA" in like UFAs get overpaid? :mrgreen:

He had a career year last season, that's not going to continue.

His points-per-game average is less than a point-per.

He's the 3rd highest paid forward in the league, should be around 20th.

His contract takes him to age 34.

Is he $2.5M better than Stamkos, $4.7M better than MacKinnon?

No, of course not.

Tavares is ridiculously overpaid...
Uhm...Panarin... UFA just signed for over 11 mill?

Comparable player with the edge to Johnny PJ


Erik Karlsson

Comparable talent for his position...over 11 mill


Come on Doc. I hate anything leaves too but PJ signed for precisely market value

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:21 pm
by Strangelove
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:18 pm
Uhm...Panarin... UFA hust signed for over 11 mill?

Comparable player with the edge to John PJ

Erik Karlsson...over 11 mill
Right, ship-jumping UFAs get overpaid, Tavares is overpaid...

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:18 pm
Comparable talent for his position...over 11 mill
Uhm... didn't I just prove that one wrong? :eh:

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:40 pm
by Uncle dans leg
Of course UFAs get overpaid. Its the nature of the beast. Premium assets hitting free agency dictate the market value. If the market says tavares panarin and karlsson command 11 as ufas...then theyre not overpaid now are they?

If they dont, like myers didnt, then its usually when they want to join a team...such as playing for their childhood team.

Herein lies another failure (in a long line of failures)of the laughs :lol:

PJs wanted to go home so damn bad but still bent them over the barrel and rammed dumbass as hard as he could...essentially screwing any future success the team might have with his crippling contract. Solidifying his all star status is the selfish team destroyer hall of shame

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:07 pm
by Strangelove
Yup and Tavares' high contract raised the bar for Matthews, Marner, and Nylander.

Every team has their salary structure right?

A year ago Marner's camp offered to sign for $8.5M x 8 years.

That equivalent to $5 - $5.5M x 5 years for a young player like Marner.

Watch as Dubas now has to pay double that... just as he did with Matthews.

Dumbass ruined the young team Lou the Lam was building.

There are reasons Lou offered Stamkos as little as he did the year before.

I'm loving how most Leaves fans are missing what's happening to their team.

Next year they'll have to give up one of Barrie/Muzzin (and Ceci)

... with no cap-room to replace them.

I doubt Tavares can repeat last year's career year numbers.

Yeah, Tuna & Co will be turning on Dubas/Shanny soon enough I guess.

(just like Canuck fans turned on Gillis, proving the Dude right all those years) 8-)

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:40 pm
by Uncle dans leg
Somewhere right now...out by lynn valley...theres a mustard stained wife beater cladding a smirking skulleted eye-tie who is rocking back and forth on his porch giggling to himself about how right he was all along.

Sort of like Randy Quaid in Independence Day.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:55 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:40 pm
Somewhere right now...out by lynn valley...theres a mustard stained wife beater cladding a smirking skulleted eye-tie who is rocking back and forth on his porch giggling to himself about how right he was all along.

Sort of like Randy Quaid in Independence Day.
Or a guy built like John Candy up top with Olson twin legs, Tim Hunter’s nose and Robert Pickton’s haircut wearing spandex and a wife beater chanting “Gillis... Ballard...Booth... Astoria....Doc.... :look: