Well when the league said these contracts would be punished prior to them signing it and they went ahead and signed it anyway, it paints them as idiots. But what really paints them as idiots is the fact they traded that contract out of team control, setting us up for this ridiculous recapture penalty.DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:07 pmYeah, being retroactively punished for finding a loophole surely evidences the stupitidy of the capologist rather than of the league.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:47 pmI realize, and I’m agreeing with his sarcasm.Topper wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:41 pmSarcasmRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pmLol, the only capologist that orchestrated a contract that’s getting retroactively punished to the tune of 3 million a year. And yet the fan base in Vancouver still praises this moronChef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:05 am Gilman has it under control over there, don’t you worry.
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No.... it was a bush league move by the league period.
Full stop.
Frank Aquilini should have at least had enough balls to challenge the penalty but we all know he is a joke.
You don’t start changing parts of a CBA when it’s already in effect. It was garbage and it was and is horseshit.
Seriously you’r either a retard or a troll blaming this on former management
Full stop.
Frank Aquilini should have at least had enough balls to challenge the penalty but we all know he is a joke.
You don’t start changing parts of a CBA when it’s already in effect. It was garbage and it was and is horseshit.
Seriously you’r either a retard or a troll blaming this on former management
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Vancouver gave up the right to whimper when your favourite gm traded the contract out of team control, the league would have had no issue if he would have ltired like Hossa did. What will be interesting is if shea Weber decides to retire.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:20 pm Yeah.... no
The fact the Canucks are the ONLY team to get whacked with this ridiculous penalty when the league already ALLOWED said contracts to be REGISTERED with said league and are now punishing teams is a farce.
I’m a Gary Bettman supporter but this is a joke
And the fact Vancouver didn’t even whimper about it when they got booted in the nuts for it is a bigger joke. This franchise has made a career out of grabbing their ankles.
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Why is Doyles always in Gilman and Gillis’ corner? They are phony bolognees!
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Source?Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:44 pmWell when the league said these contracts would be punished prior to them signing it...DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:07 pmYeah, being retroactively punished for finding a loophole surely evidences the stupitidy of the capologist rather than of the league.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:47 pmI realize, and I’m agreeing with his sarcasm.Topper wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:41 pmSarcasmRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pmLol, the only capologist that orchestrated a contract that’s getting retroactively punished to the tune of 3 million a year. And yet the fan base in Vancouver still praises this moronChef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:05 am Gilman has it under control over there, don’t you worry.
The league, in fact, approved the contract as was required by the (then current) CBA (2005 - S. 11.3).
I do agree with you that trading Luongo's contract away was not wise (but was that Gilman's or Gillis' fault?).
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This is about a bush league rule by a bush league that is a joke compared to the big 3. They are irrelevant in most of the US.?Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:06 pm Why is Doyles always in Gilman and Gillis’ corner? They are phony bolognees!
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Widely known the team was warned prior to signing the contract the ignored the warning.DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:24 pmSource?Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:44 pmWell when the league said these contracts would be punished prior to them signing it...DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:07 pmYeah, being retroactively punished for finding a loophole surely evidences the stupitidy of the capologist rather than of the league.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:47 pmI realize, and I’m agreeing with his sarcasm.Topper wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:41 pmSarcasmRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pmLol, the only capologist that orchestrated a contract that’s getting retroactively punished to the tune of 3 million a year. And yet the fan base in Vancouver still praises this moronChef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:05 am Gilman has it under control over there, don’t you worry.
The league, in fact, approved the contract as was required by the (then current) CBA (2005 - S. 11.3).
I do agree with you that trading Luongo's contract away was not wise (but was that Gilman's or Gillis' fault?).
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And yet they are the ONLY team to be punishedRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:48 pm Widely known the team was warned prior to signing the contract the ignored the warning.
It hadn't been enforced period until Vancouver took it in the ass. The Canucks and the league should be ashamed, got fuck all to do with Elmer
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There’s a few posters who will throw shade at past management to draw attention away from the uneven job current management is doing/has done.DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:24 pm
I do agree with you that trading Luongo's contract away was not wise (but was that Gilman's or Gillis' fault?).
This is a league thing. It isn’t a Gillis/Gillman thing. These same posters would be screaming bloody murder if the current administration got dinged like this
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It was enforced long ago in a galaxy far away (Kovalchuk).Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:59 pmAnd yet they are the ONLY team to be punishedRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:48 pm Widely known the team was warned prior to signing the contract the ignored the warning.
It hadn't been enforced period until Vancouver took it in the ass.
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Yeah there was talk of it at the time.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:48 pmWidely known the team was warned prior to signing the contract the ignored the warning.DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:24 pmSource?Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:44 pm Well when the league said these contracts would be punished prior to them signing it...
The league, in fact, approved the contract as was required by the (then current) CBA (2005 - S. 11.3).
I do agree with you that trading Luongo's contract away was not wise (but was that Gilman's or Gillis' fault?).
But we didn't care because we figured Lord Stanley was coming to town.
Why Canucks didn't later CBO Luongo though I'll never know...
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Bottom line. They endorsed the contract which was perfectly legal within the system both sides agreed upon. The penalty to New Jersey was also bush leagueStrangelove wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:22 pmIt was enforced long ago in a galaxy far away (Kovalchuk).Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:59 pmAnd yet they are the ONLY team to be punishedRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:48 pm Widely known the team was warned prior to signing the contract the ignored the warning.
It hadn't been enforced period until Vancouver took it in the ass.
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We had a way to escape the penalty... CBO.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:28 pmBottom line. They endorsed the contract which was perfectly legal within the system both sides agreed upon. The penalty to New Jersey was also bush leagueStrangelove wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:22 pmIt was enforced long ago in a galaxy far away (Kovalchuk).Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:59 pmAnd yet they are the ONLY team to be punishedRichardstroker69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:48 pm Widely known the team was warned prior to signing the contract the ignored the warning.
It hadn't been enforced period until Vancouver took it in the ass.
If you're not going to CBO him, you can't ever trade him and lose control.
(like Dicky said)
Otherwise it's bad management.
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I don’t disagree that it was bad management. I hated the contract the day it was signed. That said the Mickey Mouse league should have grandfathered the contract in. We all know this. Anyone arguing differently is being purposely obtuse.
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Yes the league should have grandfathered it.Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:38 pm I don’t disagree that it was bad management. I hated the contract the day it was signed. That said the Mickey Mouse league should have grandfathered the contract in. We all know this. Anyone arguing differently is being purposely obtuse.
Still bad management on Canucks part.
How many times did yours truly scream: "CBO Luongo!!!"
(a bunch of teams escaped recapture with CBOs)
Now I don't know how much of that falls on Gillis and how much on Aquaman...
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