Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Meds » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:36 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Meds wrote: But we still lack that game changing player.

I'm not saying aim for the tank, I'm just saying I won't be disappointed if we end up picking in the top-3 this year.
I think we need to wait and see what we really have in Boeser and Juolevi. Horvat could really become that workhorse player who may not score 50 goals but simply plays a 200' game that is integral to success.

We have some pieces as you said, I wouldn't be upset with a top 3 pick either. And if vet injuries pile up again like they did last year we do the same thing and hope for another good pick!

I just hope we don't have that type of injury-riddled season again. Not that I really believe we'll be cup contenders but I want to watch the younger guys develop in time, not being forced into roles they aren't ready for and then getting overwhelmed.
If vet injuries pile up again, I want to see Benning actually read the writing on the wall and pull the trigger on guys like Hansen and Burrows for draft pick returns.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Fifty Fifty » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:08 pm

Meds wrote:
Aaronp18 wrote:
Meds wrote: But we still lack that game changing player.

I'm not saying aim for the tank, I'm just saying I won't be disappointed if we end up picking in the top-3 this year.
I think we need to wait and see what we really have in Boeser and Juolevi. Horvat could really become that workhorse player who may not score 50 goals but simply plays a 200' game that is integral to success.

We have some pieces as you said, I wouldn't be upset with a top 3 pick either. And if vet injuries pile up again like they did last year we do the same thing and hope for another good pick!

I just hope we don't have that type of injury-riddled season again. Not that I really believe we'll be cup contenders but I want to watch the younger guys develop in time, not being forced into roles they aren't ready for and then getting overwhelmed.
If vet injuries pile up again, I want to see Benning actually read the writing on the wall and pull the trigger on guys like Hansen and Burrows for draft pick returns.
Sadly, if it happens, they will probably be among the injured.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Lloyd Braun » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:43 pm

Aaronp18 wrote: Oh the pundits!

. . .

Hockey "experts" are amazing beings, how someone can think we are currently building for a run is beyond me. We are trying to make the playoffs, which I have no issue with at all. In the meantime our roster turnover has been unreal and we are putting a lot of effort into developing and bringing in some younger talent.

So because we aren't going full tank these guys can't see the forest, or really don't care to look that closely! Tis' why I've always taken the media's opinion with a grain of salt at most.
I like this post. It was a very nice post indeed! :thumbs:

I also don't expect Skille to make the roster. It's certainly possible that he surprises, but I'm not sure why he'd be considered a favourite at this point over both Etem and Virtanen. So that lowers our age for this season by a tick or two.

Additionally, our average age this year is skewed by having four 35+ year old players in Sedin, Sedin, Burr, and Miller. They're huge outliers in a roster that doesn't have anybody else over 31. And that aught to be taken into account when talking about the makeup of the franchise.

We are a younger team than the "27.5217..." implies, IMO.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Strangelove » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:04 pm

Meds wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Meds this team needs more than the Biter and Miller off the books next year.
Bo and Gudbranson could eat up the lion share of that $10.5M in a real hurry if they have even halfway decent seasons.

Gudbranson is our ONLY big, physical, NHL proven, defenseman. He's a legit top-4. If he improves at all in more of a two-way role than he had in Florida $5M is the minimum we are paying him.

Bo had a 40 point sophomore season playing way over his head because of injuries to other players. If Horvat takes another step forward in his development he could easily be staring down 20+ goals and 50 points.

Sean Monahan over in Calgary is another young 2-way center, albeit Monahan has a stronger offensive component to his game, but he also played with Gaudreau and Hudler, was 2nd on the team in PP/TOI, and averaged 48 seconds of PK time per game.....he scored 63 points playing first line and first unit minutes with a pair of scoring wingers. He also saw over 19 minutes of TOI per game.

Bo led Canuck forwards in PK time, by a country mile. He played with developing wingers, and got half the PP time that Monahan saw. His zone starts were far more heavily weighted in the defensive zone, he hit almost twice as much, and blocked more too.

Monahan just finished his ELC and inked over $6M per for 6 years. If Horvat hits 50 points playing with 3rd line calibre wingers, there is no way that Benning can sign him for less than $5M.

Blob is totally right about us having some boat anchors tied to players who are being paid 25% more than they should be.
First off, aren't you one of the whiners who complain about a bleak future?

... and that Benning sucks in every way humanly possible?

Yet now you're suggesting Benning added a young top-pairing dee for a mere suspect-prospect + a 2nd

... that he kept the right young centre who you suggest will deserve the 40th-highest NHL centre cap-hit

... at the ripe old age of 22? :scowl:

If these two players deserve $5M each next summer, you should kiss Lord Benning's ass!

Secondly, you're wrong about how much they'll get next year and I'm willing to bet on that.

(Guds won't get more than Tanev, and Bo will get a bridge contract)

Thirdly, the correct math would be $5M + $5M - $4.394166M = $5.605834M

(Guds cap-hit right now $3.5M + Bo's cap-hit $894,166 = $4.394166M)

Meaning, even if you're right about $5M each, the extra cap-hit would only be $5.605834M (not $10M).

Meaning even if you're right about $5M each, there would be PLENTY of cap-space left over.

Miller $6M + Burrows $4.5M coming off the books, replaced by guys like Demko $.925M + Etem ~$.800M...

LOTS of cap room, plus the cap will definitely be increasing (willing to bet on that as well).

No doubt the Urine Crew will soon be complaining the team isn't spending to the cap. :roll:

For every player getting paid "more than they should be" there are two who are getting less.

(Tanev, Markstrom, Baertchi, Granlund... all Benning re-signings)

(Blob says Sutter/Dorsett are overpaid by a mere $500K each and that only Sbisa is massively overpaid)

(I disagree with Blob, especially about Sutter who was a great re-signing)

Seriously, when you get this bitter about your Cupless team, it's time to cut bait imesho...
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Rocky Dennis » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:35 am

Linden Vey cut:

https://twitter.com/HockeyNewsTweet/sta ... 8477766656

Secretly I was hoping he would make it. I find it humurous when fans of Calgary and Toronto slag the Canucks non-stop and then their team proceeds to fill their roster with our castoffs.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Uncle dans leg » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:56 am

How long til Burkie blinks and drives to the airport to pick up Johnny Hockey
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:03 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:How long til Burkie blinks and drives to the airport to pick up Johnny Hockey
Not long. ;)
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Tciso » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:27 pm

micky107 wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:How long til Burkie blinks and drives to the airport to pick up Johnny Hockey
Not long. ;)

$8 million cab ride???
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by micky107 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:39 pm

Tciso wrote:
micky107 wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:How long til Burkie blinks and drives to the airport to pick up Johnny Hockey
Not long. ;)

$8 million cab ride???
Lil Johnny may win this one. ouch
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by sagebrush » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:28 pm

Johnny learns truculence.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Rocky Dennis » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:40 pm

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Y ... ck/1/79740

Yak traded to Blues for conditional pick. To be confirmed by a legit source.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Rocky Dennis » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:43 pm

https://twitter.com/StLouisBlues?ref_sr ... r%5Eauthor

I guess this would be a legit source.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Rede » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:55 pm

Surprised we weren't in on this - but then again Benning is all about character and Chiarelli may not have wanted to trade within the Pacific.

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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by SKYO » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:10 pm

wow a trade!

Yeah chia no doubt didn't want yak in the pacific.

So they traded a 1st, 2nd, Taylor Hall and Yakupov for

An ahler dman, larsson, pochiro & a good ol' cond. 3rd.

BUTTT they still got mcdavid those bastards.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Post by Island Nucklehead » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:48 pm

Kris Russel about to sign in Edmonton apparently.

We trade 3rds for Pedan, not a bad trade for St Louis.

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