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RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:04 am
Bonino - 8 goals 9 assists but that's OK, Nashville is paying for Bonino's cup ring from Pittsburgh
So he's still putting up similar numbers to Sutter (Bonino .37ppg, Sutter .35ppg) while being less expensive? You're not helping your case here.
The Penguins got rid of Sutter because they (wisely) didn't want to pay him what the Canucks wound up paying him. They got a better offensive player, on a $1.8M cap hit for multiple seasons, saved enough money to add some depth (Fehr) and went out and won back to back cups. When time came to pay Bonino, they simply walked away. Excellent asset management.
If Benning had a re-do, I bet he would flip Bonino for picks/prospects to a team close to the cap. That contract was one of the best in the NHL and we failed to do anything to leverage that fact. Benning seems to learn from his mistakes, while you refuse to acknowledge he's made any.
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RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:20 am
Take a snippet of ones career (last 3 seasons) and compare "Point Totals Per 82 Game Season" to another. Whats note noted over these last 3 season comparibles - one player - Backlund - played 221 games, the other payer - Sutter - played 138 games. Agenda
So not only is Backlund the more talented hockey player, but he's also more durable.
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:23 am
Oh I forgot did I say I liked the Bonino contract ?
Feel free to produce any evidence
Crickets......
Dude's waiting for Doc to wake up and start archive machine!
Tag-team posting at it's best.
He needs someone to help him out. I was going to suggest an English and math teacher.
I'm posting from my tiny phone with a big thumb, I could care less about spelling. Math is spot on
“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:20 am
Take a snippet of ones career (last 3 seasons) and compare "Point Totals Per 82 Game Season" to another. Whats note noted over these last 3 season comparibles - one player - Backlund - played 221 games, the other payer - Sutter - played 138 games. Agenda
So not only is Backlund the more talented hockey player, but he's also more durable.
take a break Dude, you're getting pounded here.
Try to stay on topic, discussing Bubbles number crunching skewed to his agenda. Durability I will give you that, Nuckles
“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:04 am
Bonino - 8 goals 9 assists but that's OK, Nashville is paying for Bonino's cup ring from Pittsburgh
So he's still putting up similar numbers to Sutter (Bonino .37ppg, Sutter .35ppg) while being less expensive? You're not helping your case here.
The Penguins got rid of Sutter because they (wisely) didn't want to pay him what the Canucks wound up paying him. They got a better offensive player, on a $1.8M cap hit for multiple seasons, saved enough money to add some depth (Fehr) and went out and won back to back cups. When time came to pay Bonino, they simply walked away. Excellent asset management.
If Benning had a re-do, I bet he would flip Bonino for picks/prospects to a team close to the cap. That contract was one of the best in the NHL and we failed to do anything to leverage that fact. Benning seems to learn from his mistakes, while you refuse to acknowledge he's made any.
$235,000 less expensive on yearly salary? Agenda at its finest folks - called labelling similar numbers as being MILES apart. MILES!
Bonino the reason the Penguins won the cup? So no Bonino No Cup? Is that your basis for the Penguins amazing asset Mgmt of Bonino is they won the cup because of him? If so, one would think due to his value for the winning the cup for them they would have resigned him instead of lose him for nothing
Agenda much? Nuckles idea of "multiple seasons" is two seasons. Bonino says hi from the 4th line in Nashville making $4.1 million per. Sutter says hi from Vancouver, Lockwood says hi from the prospect pool
“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau
lol at Randall Tex Cobb. I feel like Larry Holmes. I ain’t talking about your spelling. It’s your reading skills that are frighteningly horrific. And if you can’t see that Backlund blows away Sutter in ppg over their careers and even more so over the past three years I don’t know what to say. You’ve been obliterated in this thread. Throw in the blood covered towel already.
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
Bubbles Agenda McKenzie - "Backlund BLOWS away Sutters Point Totals". That's right folks - "Blows Away!" Agenda much? One would think when saying "blows away" he is comparing Crosbys point totals to Troy Brouwers 3 goals and 12 assists
Backlund - 262 point
Sutter - 241 points
Sutter - 124 goals
Backlund - 104 goals
Sutter - 633 games
Backlund - 519 games
29 year old Backlund contract extension starting next season paying him $5.35 million per year until 35 years of age
29 year old Sutter 3 years left on contract starting next season paying him $1 million less than Backlund - $4.35 million per year. He will be 32 when contract ends, 30 when modified terms kick in
Sutter $1 million less per year than Backlund is apparently according to the agenda crew bad for us but excellent for Treliving. Remember, the Flames will be paying him $5.35 million when he is 35 years old
That being said getting the much much much better 8 years younger Bo Horvat at only $150,000 more per year than fucking Backland is a brilliant fucking contract! Well done JimBro Benning!
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“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau
Sutter career average of 31 points per 82 games.
Sutter over the last three years 33 points per 82 games.
Backlund career average of 41 points per 82 games
Backlund over the last three years 50 points per 82 games. But in the Dudes booze fueled coked up world there is no difference in their stats and I have an agenda.
Backlund 4th in Selke voting. Sutter ??? But.....but face offs.
For the record and hopefully Dud can blow the cocaine out of his nose and actually read this: I didn’t say Backlund’s contract was excellent. EVER. I just said it was better than Sutter’s.
You’ve made a spectacle of yourself. People won’t forget how you’ve acted up
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
From the 2015-16 season to now Backlund has played 221 games
From the 2015-16 season to now Sutter has played 138 games
Last 3 seasons
Backlund has played 83 more games
Backlund 221 games - 134 points
Sutter 138 games - 56 points
Miles Apart!
Might explain the $1 million more than Sutter that Backlund is getting. But Backlunds contract? Excellent. Sutters contract? Awful
The Agenda rages
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“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:06 pm
Lol comparing RFA to potential UFA regarding bargaining power. Fuck you cant even make this shit up. You’ve been absolutely destroyed in this thread
But Sutter becoming a UFA when extended don't matter, just Backlund?
Agenda much?
“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:06 pm
Lol comparing RFA to potential UFA regarding bargaining power. Fuck you cant even make this shit up. You’ve been absolutely destroyed in this thread
But Sutter becoming a UFA when extended don't matter, just Backlund?
Agenda much?
You brought up Bo Horvat and his contract .... seriously I have no time for this. It’s usually fun smacking you around but this is fucked. Pure troll job on your part. Bravo
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:06 pm
Lol comparing RFA to potential UFA regarding bargaining power. Fuck you cant even make this shit up. You’ve been absolutely destroyed in this thread
But Sutter becoming a UFA when extended don't matter, just Backlund?
Agenda much?
You brought up Bo Horvat and his contract .... seriously I have no time for this. It’s usually fun smacking you around but this is fucked. Pure troll job on your part. Bravo
Twister McKenzie at his finest
“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:20 pm
And NOBODY said Backlunds deal was excellent. Only you.
More classic Twister McKenzie
“Tyler Myers is my guy... I was taking to Scotty Bowman last night and he was bringing up his name, and saying he’s a big guy and big guy need big minutes to play, he is playing great for ya… and I agree with him… He’s been exceptional” - Bruce Boudreau