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TSN on Canucks...

Post by Jelly » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:17 am

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=292516
http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/story/?id=292485

Apparently, we didn't manage to win a round in the playoffs last season, and Shirokov plays centre. And we didn't resign Sundin cause he sucked against the Hawks.

Most of us could write a better article then the junk they just gave us. I really wonder why can't TSN just hire one or two guys per NHL team, and write some quality articles. They sure make a lot of money.



However, atleast they ranked us 6th in the league.
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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Kel » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:49 am

Jelly wrote:http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=292516
http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/story/?id=292485

Apparently, we didn't manage to win a round in the playoffs last season, and Shirokov plays centre. And we didn't resign Sundin cause he sucked against the Hawks.

Most of us could write a better article then the junk they just gave us. I really wonder why can't TSN just hire one or two guys per NHL team, and write some quality articles. They sure make a lot of money.



However, atleast they ranked us 6th in the league.
I don't see where they wrote that the team didn't win a round (I saw second-round exit, which is accurate) or Sundin sucked against the Hawks. They mentioned Shirokov as a winger and he was only put in the C slot in the "depth chart" because he was on the "fifth line" and most team's best 13th-15th forwards don't form a complete LW-C-RW line. This article is fairly detailed and objective, in my opinion.

EDIT: I saw the comments so they must have put "first round exit" when the article was first published, and then corrected it later silently (which is bad).

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Jelly » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:09 pm

BOOM

Internet jouralism at it's best. something's wrong? no matter, we can fix it with no evidence!

anyhoo.

their mentioning of losing our UFAs as if we forced them out is stupid, most of them just wouldn't fit back into our organization
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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Kel » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:07 pm

Jelly wrote: their mentioning of losing our UFAs as if we forced them out is stupid, most of them just wouldn't fit back into our organization
If they don't fit back into the organization, the organization chooses not to bring them back and therefore the players had no choice of coming back, technically "forced out". The only exception is Sundin, whom Gillis expressed interest in bringing back. The rest, including Ohlund, were "forced out" because the organization didn't offer them to option to come back.

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by the toucan kid » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:39 pm

Internet jouralism at it's best. something's wrong? no matter, we can fix it with no evidence!
What's wrong with fixing a factual error?

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Jelly » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:42 pm

I don't know, maybe I'm still too drunk

But when you make a mistake in real life, it stays with you, as a record.
You can't change your answers after submitting an exam. (Publishing an article)
You can't change the fact you got a speeding ticket.
You can't change that report you typed while drunk that you sent to the company president.


I just wish I could have a magic eraser like that and start with a clean state.
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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Madcombinepilot » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:01 pm

why would anyone be surprised by this?

EBL reporters working for an EBL company.

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Kel » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:14 pm

the toucan kid wrote:
Internet jouralism at it's best. something's wrong? no matter, we can fix it with no evidence!
What's wrong with fixing a factual error?
Nothing wrong fixing it, but it just looks unprofessional to fix it secretly (and therefore hiding the mistake) without acknowledging it's been updated. Wall Street Journal's web site, for example, corrects mistakes by publishing a separate article about the error.

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by orts » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:37 pm

The notion of the mutable online text has been discussed here before. See also:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/19/1

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by the toucan kid » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:24 pm

Nothing wrong fixing it, but it just looks unprofessional to fix it secretly (and therefore hiding the mistake) without acknowledging it's been updated. Wall Street Journal's web site, for example, corrects mistakes by publishing a separate article about the error.
Probably right, a correction notice is the proper thing to do in terms of journalistic ethics. That said, it's just sports.

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Jelly » Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:55 pm

the toucan kid wrote:
Probably right, a correction notice is the proper thing to do in terms of journalistic ethics. That said, it's just sports.

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by jchockey » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:51 am

Don't read Scott Cullen's stuff, he's garbage.

There are numerous errors in his 30 teams in 30 days feature. He also picked Edmonton as the better team over Calgary. If I ever saw him I'd take that bet.

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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by LotusBlossom » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:37 am

If you're an accredited writer for a national conglomerate, you should have the sense to have the proper points in your article. Do your research. Hell, as much as I can, I will research before I write.

I guess Ryerson,BCIT,Mohawk College or Columbia academy haven't really taught proper journalism.

There are people out there in the social media that have had better opinions and researched work that Scott Cullen. He's precisely what's wrong with the "Who you know" in the biz rather that what you know and can do.
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Re: TSN on Canucks...

Post by Jelly » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:08 am

The success of a person is not what he accomplished, it is who they can call their friends.

or something like that.

In theory it works well, but when your a monkey and you managed to be born to the president of the USA, you can also be the president of the USA.



EDIT

also... Toronto sending a junior back to junior is the top story on TSN.
weeeeeeeeeee I wished that we had our own biased TV station, even Sportsnet Pacific has to have their line up approved by Toronto head office (Don Taylor mentioned it once on the radio show, a week ago I think, about the Heatley trade.)
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