Madcombinepilot wrote:I don't think they're worth the 6 mill that they asking.
where did that come from?
I thought that was the upper end of popular opinion. you have a source to back that number up?
That number is a guesstimate. I believe, actually, that the twins were looking for $7m each. It was first reported in the papers, Metro, VanSun, that their agent JP Barry would be using other players such as Scott Gomez and Chris Drury as comparisons. Gomez and Drury both earn over $7m/season but have generated fewer point totals than either of the Sedins.
The Sedins are not superstars. I would take one Joe Thornton over both of them any day. Thornton will never shed his playoff choker tag unless the Sharks go far in this year's playoffs, and even if they do, a lot of their improved playoff performance will probably be attributed to Dan Boyle or Rob Blake instead. Same with the Sedins - they'll never shed their playoff choke tag unless they go far, but that being said using this logic it can be concluded that most players are chokers in the playoffs. However, when the game is on the line, game seven, last minute, I would be much more comfortable having Thornton on the ice than the twins.
The Sedins are good hockey players - statistically they're among tops in the league and their ability to generate scoring chances off a seemingly harmless cycle is amazing. As a duo, their point production outpaces most of the other duos in the league, including Getzlaf and Perry, both of whom earn a shade over $5m/season. Considering that their production is somewhere between the lines of Getzlaf and Thornton, $7m/year is too much. Replacing them, if their price is too high, won't be easy but I think it's doable.
Mozy wrote:We have the advantage in re-signing them just because if you think about it there's not a lot of other teams that need TWO "first" line forwards. Most teams are looking for one guy to lead them, or one guy to fill that space. Something tells me if the Sedin's go anywhere else they're going to want to stay together. So unless they accept a lot of money to play on a team like Atlanta and forfeit success we might have negotiating leverage in being amongst the top contenders for the cup every year.
The other advantage is that they won't be getting the dollars they want on the open market. No team is going to commit that much money to two forwards that will most likely play on the second line. Most teams have a first line already to build from and the fact that the Sedins are pushing for a "no separation clause" makes it that much more difficult. There just aren't that many teams that have at least $15m in cap space to seriously push for the Sedins, and even for the teams that do, most of them have self-imposed cap restrictions.
It’s a little murky right now what will happen, but it will depend a lot on the cap limits, the Sedins’ and the team’s performance in the playoffs, the asking price, and the free agent market.
Signing the Sedins to a short term contract will not be an option because they probably won’t accept it. I would say a three-year extension is the bare minimum they will accept, and the shorter the contract the higher the dollars.