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2Fingers wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:12 pm Went a whisky event on Saturday and tried about 20 different scotch/whiskies from all over the world so my mind might be a little hazy but when has JR made an announcement or perceived to make an announcement that he wants to leave?
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Sportsnet hypothetical trade, uniting all the Hughes bros together blockbuster.

To NJ: Quinn Hughes

To VAN: Mercer, Nemec, cond. 1st.
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SKYO wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:07 pm Sportsnet hypothetical trade, uniting all the Hughes bros together blockbuster.

To NJ: Quinn Hughes

To VAN: Mercer, Nemec, cond. 1st.
I preferred what Cassie said in response better

If we have a shot at obtaining the 1st O/A pick we would need to include QH and that's where I go instead
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Yeah, Anson Carter suggested this as a good trade for the Canucks.

On the one hand, there's great potential for us finally having a good, young, top-pairing RHD. On the other, the gaping hole would just be moved to the left side. Also, would veterans Pettersson want to re-up looking at moves like this? Not sure.

No Hughes, offence dries up. D is even worse.

Without a shot at Bedard (Canuckluck), is it worthwhile? I say no.
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Nemec is going to be a very good D-man. Adding Mercer and the 1st makes it an absolute no brainer for me
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Chef has resided with the fact that Boeser isn’t long in the tooth here and we won’t get much for him if anything, probably a vet with term comes back in return, problem for problem
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Boeser has been the biggest head scratcher of them all. He should have been dealt last summer.

At the rate he’s playing, he could be out of the league before too long.
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BladesofSteel wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:03 am Boeser has been the biggest head scratcher of them all. He should have been dealt last summer.

At the rate he’s playing, he could be out of the league before too long.
He hasn’t been the same player since the Clutterrbuck bench door hit, thanks to that ultra airhead extraordinaire- Jake Virtanen for not shutting the door. I honestly think that hit scared him into half the player he used to be.
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I recall the euphoria here from many posters when he re signed and the anticipated rebound from last season's emotional trauma.

Now comes the revisionist adjustments
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In the beginning I really thought Boeser would be our next 50 goal scorer. I assumed he would work on his skating, learn to be more physically engaged. The knock on him for the first few years was he seemed to show up to camp out of shape. He got a pass the first 2-3 years because he was coming off of injuries. I remember the year we played in China for a couple of games, he made the team but was not invited on the trip due to his poor camp. I thought that might be a wake up call.

This year, by all accounts, he showed up to camp in the best conditioning of his career. He was allegedly the best Canuck out of camp but then an injury. Bad luck for him perhaps as he was looking to have a break out season, by camp standards anyway.

Boeser is a one trick pony. He has an above average shot. He is some games average and others below average, defensively. His skating has improved but he still lumbers out there. He is engaging more physically but most of his hits are bum hits. His board play is average to below average. He is an average passer.

The time to trade him was when he was coming off his ELC. Like Virtanen. Time to have traded him was when he was coming off of his ELC. We need better evaluation of some of these players, earlier.

I feel for Boeser and everything he has gone through and by all accounts he is a decent human being. But I will be glad to see him gone and if he moves on and is on a team that he can play to his strengths he may break out again in goal scoring. But it wont be with us.
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I never took him as a 30+ goal scorer, I see so many times we make excuses for a player, injury, family issues etc etc etc. Sometime what you see is what you get and what I saw from him was a mid tier player who could get 20+ goals on a consistent basis but he would not go into the dirty areas, was not that great away from the puck and was not a PK specialist.

When he signed for what he did, and not traded i was disappointed because I never saw him as a $6.65M guy. Would have been better to move him for any pick than sign him and HOPE he turns out to the player we wanted. I mean how many times has a player with 3+ years of experience changed in the same environment? JT could be one player but it is rare.
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Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:15 am Boeser is a one trick pony. He has an above average shot. He is some games average and others below average, defensively. His skating has improved but he still lumbers out there. He is engaging more physically but most of his hits are bum hits. His board play is average to below average. He is an average passer.
He has good hands and is a good passer in addition to his shot. His slow play is the issue, I think. But the skating itself is probably average. But he doesn't use it to advance.... He's almost never available for a transition pass where he is flying and stays flying. Instead he's usually standing still or skating at his defensemen. He uses the neutral zone to "get set up" when quickness and a little chaos is what full strength entries are about -- it is far better for the defense to be discombobulated than for both teams to be assembled. Boeser plays like the team is up 2 goals in the third period. That doesn't work. Unless you are up 2 goals in the third period.
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Brock doesn't seem to have a place on this team - his shot is shot - when's the last time he 'sniped' something? I've wanted him to break out, but I just don't see it happening - too many injuries, and he's not the same kid we drafted. He doesn't seem to be able to adjust his game, we see the same guy we saw when he first got here, but with a worse shot. He's not worth the cap space any more.

Is it worth dumping him at the trade deadline for a pick of any kind, just to clear some cap and roster space? 2 more years at 6.6 will not help this team at all. Do we buy him out (save about 4.4 in cap)?

Always been a fan of his, but it's time to cut our losses.
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He’s a naturally stocky kid who could really benefit from trimming 5-7 lbs off his frame. It worked for Bo, not sure why Brock never made the attempt.

Brock’s story is tired and old. He’s a distraction in the room and needs to be moved asap.
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Cornuck wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:11 am Brock doesn't seem to have a place on this team - his shot is shot - when's the last time he 'sniped' something? I've wanted him to break out, but I just don't see it happening - too many injuries, and he's not the same kid we drafted. He doesn't seem to be able to adjust his game, we see the same guy we saw when he first got here, but with a worse shot. He's not worth the cap space any more.

Is it worth dumping him at the trade deadline for a pick of any kind, just to clear some cap and roster space? 2 more years at 6.6 will not help this team at all. Do we buy him out (save about 4.4 in cap)?

Always been a fan of his, but it's time to cut our losses.
You can't move him without retaining. I see addition by subtraction with him gone if you want to bring in more accountability on the players to hustle and play a 200' game. Maybe a different city will make him more successful
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