The remaining schedule
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Re: The remaining schedule
I keep going back to one of Bruce's first interviews where he talked about starting off by rebuilding their entire puck possession and puck management deployment. This pretty well points the finger directly and Travis and Nolan.
It was an instant transformation really. They looked totally different with the exact same roster and haven't looked back.
Does Green ever coach in the NHL again?
It was an instant transformation really. They looked totally different with the exact same roster and haven't looked back.
Does Green ever coach in the NHL again?
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...simply coach in the show and hired as a Head Coach are 2 separate questions.
Whatchumean mang?
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Re: The remaining schedule
Some yes. I remember BB saying that they changed the pk because the standing around was clearly not getting it done. That was a shot.Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:58 am I keep going back to one of Bruce's first interviews where he talked about starting off by rebuilding their entire puck possession and puck management deployment. This pretty well points the finger directly and Travis and Nolan.
Another thing he mentioned publicly was getting them to shoot more.
I also think there was that initial momentum from the coach change whereby everyone wanted to show the new coach that they have game. So more energy in general and new deployments in particular - most notably skill guys mixed into the pk
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He could possibly assist i suppose but not as a HC
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Green also had them funneling pucks back to the D pretty well 100% of the time and teams were cheating way high on us, turning pucks over and heading the other way. (Topper mentioned this earlier)Kenji wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:53 amSome yes. I remember BB saying that they changed the pk because the standing around was clearly not getting it done. That was a shot.Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:58 am I keep going back to one of Bruce's first interviews where he talked about starting off by rebuilding their entire puck possession and puck management deployment. This pretty well points the finger directly and Travis and Nolan.
Another thing he mentioned publicly was getting them to shoot more.
I also think there was that initial momentum from the coach change whereby everyone wanted to show the new coach that they have game. So more energy in general and new deployments in particular - most notably skill guys mixed into the pk
BB likes to have them work defenses down low far more which taxes defenses causing more turnovers
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Green may get another coaching gig but he's going to have to show he can adapt likely by taking a lesser role first.
Yup as Topper said, he was more focused on a system and afraid to let the players be creative.
This likely comes from coaching lower levels (WHL the AHL) where systems can have more impact and lead to less mistakes. Guys in the NHL can adapt much more quickly to a system but also have the skill and typically the hockey IQ to be more creative without making too many mistakes.
He tried to force a system on players instead of playing a style more adept to his roster.
Yup as Topper said, he was more focused on a system and afraid to let the players be creative.
This likely comes from coaching lower levels (WHL the AHL) where systems can have more impact and lead to less mistakes. Guys in the NHL can adapt much more quickly to a system but also have the skill and typically the hockey IQ to be more creative without making too many mistakes.
He tried to force a system on players instead of playing a style more adept to his roster.
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Anyone who has managed for several years can look back and see that early on they tried to micromanage far to much. Sooner or later you have to acknowledge and have faith in your team of people.
I suspect Green has learned a lot but seeing what Bruce has done with the same lineup.
If he hasn't, fuck him.
I suspect Green has learned a lot but seeing what Bruce has done with the same lineup.
If he hasn't, fuck him.
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...to add to AP's post it's also how dude got and kept a playing gig I'm the league.
Tough thing for ex-players as coaches.
Adaptability.
See beyond what made you/was coached into you as a player and morph your style outwards from there....
Tough thing for ex-players as coaches.
Adaptability.
See beyond what made you/was coached into you as a player and morph your style outwards from there....
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Re: The remaining schedule
Topper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:24 pm Anyone who has managed for several years can look back and see that early on they tried to micromanage far to much. Sooner or later you have to acknowledge and have faith in your team of people.
I suspect Green has learned a lot but seeing what Bruce has done with the same lineup.
If he hasn't, fuck him.
...ability to defer from micro-managing and delegate.
The most important characteristic of a successful manager.
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I have people to delegate for me.donlever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:26 pmTopper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:24 pm Anyone who has managed for several years can look back and see that early on they tried to micromanage far to much. Sooner or later you have to acknowledge and have faith in your team of people.
I suspect Green has learned a lot but seeing what Bruce has done with the same lineup.
If he hasn't, fuck him.
...ability to defer from micro-managing and delegate.
The most important characteristic of a successful manager.
Over the Internet, you can pretend to be anyone or anything.
I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
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Easy boys, I saw Cuz earlier.
You'll get the hillbilly all amped up.
You'll get the hillbilly all amped up.
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Topper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:28 pmI have people to delegate for me.donlever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:26 pmTopper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:24 pm Anyone who has managed for several years can look back and see that early on they tried to micromanage far to much. Sooner or later you have to acknowledge and have faith in your team of people.
I suspect Green has learned a lot but seeing what Bruce has done with the same lineup.
If he hasn't, fuck him.
...ability to defer from micro-managing and delegate.
The most important characteristic of a successful manager.
...it's the only way.
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Re: The remaining schedule
Great points, AP.
But last night, those bottom 6 AHLers had no problem adapting to Bruce's system. They, and the rest of the team were really consistently good for the entire 60 minutes.
We've seen them have other good games since BB arrived where they've hung with better teams with much less firepower. I have no doubt Brad Shaw actually has more input now than when he was under Green.
I think Green & Baumer just don't have the creativity and were scared to exit their comfort zone. They've got much learning to still do. Don't see him back as a head coach for awhile without more seasoning as an assistant under a very good bench boss.
Yeah, fuck him.
Also, can anyone tell me what Jason King does?
But last night, those bottom 6 AHLers had no problem adapting to Bruce's system. They, and the rest of the team were really consistently good for the entire 60 minutes.
We've seen them have other good games since BB arrived where they've hung with better teams with much less firepower. I have no doubt Brad Shaw actually has more input now than when he was under Green.
I think Green & Baumer just don't have the creativity and were scared to exit their comfort zone. They've got much learning to still do. Don't see him back as a head coach for awhile without more seasoning as an assistant under a very good bench boss.
Yeah, fuck him.
Also, can anyone tell me what Jason King does?
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I don't share The Chef's affinity for gigantic circumcised clitoris's so no amping happening without a bajayjay
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