And of course, it's all a moot point if we don't have any traffic in front of the goalie (Chase-on doesn't count).Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:07 amI would keep him at the point with Hughes on the other side. Give him a little room to let go that bomb. Snuggling up to the coverage is obviously not working and if they want to cheat to EP then let them send someone all the way out there, it'll end up opening ice down low and through their slot.Cornuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:05 am So they mixed the power play man advantage up a little last night... big whoop.
I'm thinking about Pettersson on the man advantage. Here a guy with world class skill (although still rusty) and he's basically coached to stay in one spot and wait for the puck to get to him. Yes, he has a good shot - but so does Boeser and Miller to a point. So as a player, would it be frustrating to want to get into the play, create movement, make some magic - when your role is to be a pylon waiting for the one-timer?
How does a coaching staff think that's the best use of the resources available?
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Listening to McTavish last night, he says when you struggle like the Canucks are you set up the points then everyone else meet in front of the net. Get some garbage.Cornuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:12 amAnd of course, it's all a moot point if we don't have any traffic in front of the goalie (Chase-on doesn't count).Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:07 amI would keep him at the point with Hughes on the other side. Give him a little room to let go that bomb. Snuggling up to the coverage is obviously not working and if they want to cheat to EP then let them send someone all the way out there, it'll end up opening ice down low and through their slot.Cornuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:05 am So they mixed the power play man advantage up a little last night... big whoop.
I'm thinking about Pettersson on the man advantage. Here a guy with world class skill (although still rusty) and he's basically coached to stay in one spot and wait for the puck to get to him. Yes, he has a good shot - but so does Boeser and Miller to a point. So as a player, would it be frustrating to want to get into the play, create movement, make some magic - when your role is to be a pylon waiting for the one-timer?
How does a coaching staff think that's the best use of the resources available?
But not old throat sac Green. He says everyone around the outside waving at pucks.
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Point is the coach has lost the room. Players do what they're told. Howz this working out? Green had something going with his players in the bubble and the first 2/3ds of that 19/20 season but that was then, this is now. TG is not adapting to what he has. Even that success he had before was bolstered by some great team leadership.Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:07 amI would keep him at the point with Hughes on the other side. Give him a little room to let go that bomb. Snuggling up to the coverage is obviously not working and if they want to cheat to EP then let them send someone all the way out there, it'll end up opening ice down low and through their slot.Cornuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:05 am So they mixed the power play man advantage up a little last night... big whoop.
I'm thinking about Pettersson on the man advantage. Here a guy with world class skill (although still rusty) and he's basically coached to stay in one spot and wait for the puck to get to him. Yes, he has a good shot - but so does Boeser and Miller to a point. So as a player, would it be frustrating to want to get into the play, create movement, make some magic - when your role is to be a pylon waiting for the one-timer?
How does a coaching staff think that's the best use of the resources available?
We need experience behind the bench for a change.
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He had his team enjoying exceptional goaltending and gave up 45+ shots a night. Honestly the games all looked like powerplays and they were efficient counter punchers
It was all an illusion of success
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Pettersson is flat-out in a funk. I wouldn’t say he’s disinterested or indifferent. If anything, he may be letting frustration get to him. Not sure if his wrist injury is still having an effect, but he is not pulling off the puck moves he used to. Maybe opposition players have figured out his moves, but he’s just plain off. Just has to work his way through it but the season is starting to slip away now.
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The big boss seen this albatross, he says to JB, if you can't handle this coach, then I will, or I'll move ya both.Micky wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:54 amThey were always best suited for minor league hockey. Green treats his players as though they were midget or junior B players. The players are lost in space because of it. Not that Boeser is anywhere near his best, same as some others, but it is he who is taking some of the brunt of TG's shit.
Benning deserves one more coach, considering 15ish other GM'ms got a 3rd/4th/5th coach since JB was hired.
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I'm one of the two who went with coaching with the caveat: for the moment. Green has players who can be creative and are fast, but nothing caters to that, particularly on special teams. Again Green isn't a bad coach, he is limited in his experience as a coach in the NHL, I will give him the benefit of the doubt since he learned to adapt as player and hopefully can do the same as a coach, but his time to do so with this team has ended. Pettersson needs to be creative and that's not happening.
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Disagree Skyo, this team is soft and Dickinson has not turned out to be as great on the PK as we thought. JB also brought in Sutter for the PK which was a bad decision because the guy can never stay healthy. He signed Pearson, the amount is not too bad but the problem is that Pearson cannot play on the PK and he is now on the 3rd line.SKYO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:57 pmThe big boss seen this albatross, he says to JB, if you can't handle this coach, then I will, or I'll move ya both.Micky wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:54 amThey were always best suited for minor league hockey. Green treats his players as though they were midget or junior B players. The players are lost in space because of it. Not that Boeser is anywhere near his best, same as some others, but it is he who is taking some of the brunt of TG's shit.
Benning deserves one more coach, considering 15ish other GM'ms got a 3rd/4th/5th coach since JB was hired.
I really liked the OEL/Garland trade a other things that JB did but it is time for new blood on the team. Of course the owners love their puppets so who knows what they are thinking.
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Sutter has had too many minor injuries that caused him to lose time. No denying that. They miss the f--k out of what he does right now, and that's winning face-offs and penalty killing. Of Note; He isn't injured, he's suffering from Covid complications and the recovery has been way longer then expected.
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Injuries, COVID 19, does not matter, if there is a sickness or opportunity to be hurt and miss 50% of the season Sutter will have it.Micky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:34 amSutter has had too many minor injuries that caused him to lose time. No denying that. They miss the f--k out of what he does right now, and that's winning face-offs and penalty killing. Of Note; He isn't injured, he's suffering from Covid complications and the recovery has been way longer then expected.
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kinda weird Sutter never missed a game when he was with Pittsburgh, but Vancouver injury zone.2Fingers wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:37 amInjuries, COVID 19, does not matter, if there is a sickness or opportunity to be hurt and miss 50% of the season Sutter will have it.Micky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:34 amSutter has had too many minor injuries that caused him to lose time. No denying that. They miss the f--k out of what he does right now, and that's winning face-offs and penalty killing. Of Note; He isn't injured, he's suffering from Covid complications and the recovery has been way longer then expected.
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Exposure and role.SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:17 pmkinda weird Sutter never missed a game when he was with Pittsburgh, but Vancouver injury zone.2Fingers wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:37 amInjuries, COVID 19, does not matter, if there is a sickness or opportunity to be hurt and miss 50% of the season Sutter will have it.Micky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:34 amSutter has had too many minor injuries that caused him to lose time. No denying that. They miss the f--k out of what he does right now, and that's winning face-offs and penalty killing. Of Note; He isn't injured, he's suffering from Covid complications and the recovery has been way longer then expected.
In Pittsburgh he was playing behind Crosby and Malkin. All he really had to do was kill penalties. When he came to Vancouver he was basically the 2nd line center behind Hank.
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I had covid, takes 2, 3 months to get over it, Sutter should be practicing by now.Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:22 pmExposure and role.SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:17 pmkinda weird Sutter never missed a game when he was with Pittsburgh, but Vancouver injury zone.2Fingers wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:37 amInjuries, COVID 19, does not matter, if there is a sickness or opportunity to be hurt and miss 50% of the season Sutter will have it.Micky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:34 amSutter has had too many minor injuries that caused him to lose time. No denying that. They miss the f--k out of what he does right now, and that's winning face-offs and penalty killing. Of Note; He isn't injured, he's suffering from Covid complications and the recovery has been way longer then expected.
In Pittsburgh he was playing behind Crosby and Malkin. All he really had to do was kill penalties. When he came to Vancouver he was basically the 2nd line cI had enter behind Hank.
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Unless he's one of the rare "long haulers".....some people are taking 6 months and some still aren't back to normal after a year.SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:28 pm [youtube][/youtube]I had covid, takes 2, 3 months to get over it, Sutter should be practicing by now.Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:22 pmExposure and role.SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:17 pmkinda weird Sutter never missed a game when he was with Pittsburgh, but Vancouver injury zone.2Fingers wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:37 amInjuries, COVID 19, does not matter, if there is a sickness or opportunity to be hurt and miss 50% of the season Sutter will have it.Micky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:34 amSutter has had too many minor injuries that caused him to lose time. No denying that. They miss the f--k out of what he does right now, and that's winning face-offs and penalty killing. Of Note; He isn't injured, he's suffering from Covid complications and the recovery has been way longer then expected.
In Pittsburgh he was playing behind Crosby and Malkin. All he really had to do was kill penalties. When he came to Vancouver he was basically the 2nd line cI had enter behind Hank.
Also he could be dealing with a post vaccination side-effect as well. We don't know.
My statement was simply in regards to your comment about how he never missed a game in Pittsburgh.