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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:01 pm Everytime Gilman speaks I want to puke in my toilet on top of my shit. Can’t stand the car salesman. He’s like Tom Rennie 2.0 but worse
I can see a Jim Bejing speech resonating more with a guy like yourself :mex:
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Well, what do you know, it only took the firing of a coach to make me excited about Canuck hockey again. I have wanted green gone for a couple years. Nothing ever seemed to change in his approach to the game, or in game adjustments seemed non existent. I hated listening to him in his media talks. I get that the media asks stupid questions, but it’s part of the job. He never said anything real, and seemed like it was beneath his station to even be there. So condescending. I also think Benning was doomed the first time he opened his mouth when he first arrived. He talked like a fourth grader giving a presentation. He got somewhat better over the years, but crap, he was bad. Saying that, I loved his drafting record, aside from virtanen and possibly joulevi. Signed some great contracts and also some stinkers.
What a refreshing difference Boudreau is. Seems like he enjoys the pressers. We’ll see if that continues. Last nights game was a pleasure to watch, hope the up tempo continues.
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Vin Tanner wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:43 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:01 pm Everytime Gilman speaks I want to puke in my toilet on top of my shit. Can’t stand the car salesman. He’s like Tom Rennie 2.0 but worse
I can see a Jim Bejing speech resonating more with a guy like yourself :mex:
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https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/laurenc ... KST1Ptlp1o

Media reporting on a potential Gilman/MG combo here once again. I liked Gilman back in the day and was disappointed JB canned him. He was great at managing the cap and he may have strongly advised JB and/or Mr. A NOT to sign Eriksson. At least not for that term.

I think one of JB's mistakes may have been firing Gilman and/or Lorne Henning back in 2015. When u r in upper mgmt, it's good to have ppl who will look at things differently, be confident in offering their opinions and challenge your perspective on things. JB then brought in Weisbrod who was a buddy and basically a "yes man" to him, so there was really no one around to help him look at things from a different standpoint. What's that proverb? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

JB's first year here was great, offseason additions of Ryan Miller and Radim Vrbata paid off big time and the team exceeded expectations. After that season, the team went down the toilet and took 5 years to make the playoffs again. Of course, we all know what happened after the bubble when the team showed so much promise (1 game to make conference finals). It was not supposed to go this way. JB may be a genius in scouting and drafting, but he was far from it from a mgmt position and could have used all the help he could get.

Loosing Trev hurt JB and Mr A as well. Sure, Trev didn't know much about running a hockey club, but the fans and media luved him, so he was a great PR guy. When things were looking bleak, they could have just sent Trev out there to soothe the mob. Trev was great in front of the camera, JB not so much. If Trev went out there and said me and JB are looking at everything to get this club back in the right direction -- instead of JB -- I doubt the fans would have been chanting "Fire Benning". I guess you reap what you sow. I know Trev is a Canuck at heart and wants to see the team succeed, but somehow I think he's doing the fist pump and happy dance right now.
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Todd, do you know how you know when Sekeres and Price and Dreger are making shit up? Their lips are moving.
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sk8er wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:55 pm Well, what do you know, it only took the firing of a coach to make me excited about Canuck hockey again. I have wanted green gone for a couple years. Nothing ever seemed to change in his approach to the game, or in game adjustments seemed non existent. I hated listening to him in his media talks. I get that the media asks stupid questions, but it’s part of the job. He never said anything real, and seemed like it was beneath his station to even be there. So condescending. I also think Benning was doomed the first time he opened his mouth when he first arrived. He talked like a fourth grader giving a presentation. He got somewhat better over the years, but crap, he was bad. Saying that, I loved his drafting record, aside from virtanen and possibly joulevi. Signed some great contracts and also some stinkers.
What a refreshing difference Boudreau is. Seems like he enjoys the pressers. We’ll see if that continues. Last nights game was a pleasure to watch, hope the up tempo continues.
Looking forward to tomorrow nights game, and I haven’t said that for awhile.
I agree with most of this. Except the part about Benning's draft record. He had some wins (Boeser, Hoglander, Demko) but way too many misses (Virtanen, Juolevi). Instead of Virtanen he could have had McAvoy or Sergachev...players who would be leading us today. He had 7 years to draft and develop a solid D man to replace Tanev and Edler and couldn't do it. Same with a home grown penalty killer or a R handed centre. And why he traded away so many picks I'll never understand.
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Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:46 am
I liked Gilman back in the day and was disappointed JB canned him. He was great at managing the cap and he may have strongly advised JB and/or Mr. A NOT to sign Eriksson. At least not for that term.
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Gilman has been integral in helping Toronto lose in the first round of the playoffs 5 years in a row with three $11 million contracts on the cap

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Zedlee wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:59 am

I agree with most of this. Except the part about Benning's draft record. He had some wins (Boeser, Hoglander, Demko) but way too many misses (Virtanen, Juolevi). Instead of Virtanen he could have had McAvoy or Sergachev...players who would be leading us today. He had 7 years to draft and develop a solid D man to replace Tanev and Edler and couldn't do it. Same with a home grown penalty killer or a R handed centre. And why he traded away so many picks I'll never understand.
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Compared to any other Canucks GM, Benning was the best at drafting. I'm not sure if that is saying much, but it's something.

Criticism of his FA signings has legitimacy, trade criticism as well to a lesser extent; but, anyone looking at the different Canuck draft records can see he was not nearly as terrible as some here make out, especially considering the Canucks lost every lottery. Yes there are hits and misses, but overall not a bad job drafting at all.

https://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008756.html
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Cherry Picker wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:57 am Compared to any other Canucks GM, Benning was the best at drafting. I'm not sure if that is saying much, but it's something.

Criticism of his FA signings has legitimacy, trade criticism as well to a lesser extent; but, anyone looking at the different Canuck draft records can see he was not nearly as terrible as some here make out, especially considering the Canucks lost every lottery. Yes there are hits and misses, but overall not a bad job drafting at all.

https://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00008756.html
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Finally had a chance to watch the Bruce 1st presser after his first morning skate. LOL He's a vet.

He came across as the presses best buddy and they lapped up every last drop of peanut butter. The media here is a joke.
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Madcombinepilot wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:01 am Be sure to clean Mr. Gilman’s shirt when your finished polishing his knob, and you should make him a sandwich. :D
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Micky wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:46 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:01 am Be sure to clean Mr. Gilman’s shirt when your finished polishing his knob, and you should make him a sandwich. :D
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Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:46 am https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/laurenc ... KST1Ptlp1o

Media reporting on a potential Gilman/MG combo here once again. I liked Gilman back in the day and was disappointed JB canned him. He was great at managing the cap and he may have strongly advised JB and/or Mr. A NOT to sign Eriksson. At least not for that term.
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"Gilman may have strongly advised JB and/or Mr. A NOT to sign Eriksson" LMAO
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