Arbour wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm
2Fingers wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 11:37 am
Except you haven't calculated what it would cost to move him in 3+ years?
Thats the kicker, what would they have to add to move him once he is no longer worth his cap hit? Probably a 1st regardless of how his salary is structured. Not many teams are taking on other players garbage anymore unless it is worth it.
It appears you think Miller is going to be absolutely useless at 32, such that he is garbage. Really? Look at the league there are any number of 32 yr. old players and older who are anything but garbage. The Canucks would be more than fortunate if Miller was relegated to a second or third line centre at the end of his contract since it would mean they had that many more talented centres in the system.
Further more players are payed on a per diem basis so if the Canucks aren't cup contenders, someone like Miller at the end of his contract with the Canucks becomes an extremely attractive trade deadline acquisition, should he wish to be moved to a contender.
I don't think anyone here is thinking Miller will be absolutely useless, but if he were to sign a $9M x 6 and then drop back to being a 60 point contributor at a time when Pettersson and any other young players require big paydays (3 years from now), then one has to weigh is usefulness against the expense of him being here and what that means to building around a younger core.
I think if we had won a cup in the last 4 years, and were a competitive team in the playoffs with a decently stocked cupboard of prospects in Abby, and some quality young players who were already contributing while on team friendly deals for another few years, well then sure, you don't bat and eye at signing Miller.
JT Miller is NOT in a class with guys like Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos, and Kane. Those guys are super talents that produce consistently year in and out and the only reason for them to notch anything less than 70 points is because they played fewer than 70 games.
I think Miller fits with the guys below.....
Jonathan Toews (33) - 37 points in 71 games
Jamie Benn (31) - 46 points in 82 games
Alexander Radulov (34) - 22 points in 71 games
Niklas Backstrom (33) - 31 points in 47 games
Phil Kessel (33) - 52 points in 82 games
Anze Kopitar (33) - 67 points in 81 games
Blake Wheeler (34) - 60 points in 65 games
Claude Giroux (33) - 65 points in 75 games
Jakub Voracek (31) - 62 points in 79 games
James van Riemsdyk (32) - 38 points in 82 games
Logan Couture (33) - 56 points in 77 games
All of these players have a cap hit north of $6M, and only Radulov makes less than $8M. They are still good players, however all of them have been top line contributors for the majority of their careers, and only 3 of them (Couture, Backstrom, and Benn) have more than 2 years left on their contracts. None of them inked their current deals at 30 years of age, which is the crux of the matter here.