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Bedard proving he’s the real deal at the U-18’s. Curious why no Wright or Savoie? Too old or in the playoffs? I see Fantilli is there
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The next Mogilny/Kucherov/Panarin - Matvei Michkov - odb remember the name.
Michkov scores the championship-winning goal with the michigan.

He finishes the playoffs with 13 goals and 17 points in 17 playoff games - that's a new MHL playoff goal record for U18 skaters
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Slafkovsky news;
Juraj Slafkovsky (#60) grabbed a primary helper to give him 7 points in 16 playoff games - 3rd most EVER by a U18 skater in Liiga history.
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Alex Mogilny is criminally underrated. It’s a travesty he isn’t in the HHOF.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:18 am Alex Mogilny is criminally underrated. It’s a travesty he isn’t in the HHOF.
I'm with you Blob.

As an all around player with respect to raw talent he was superior to Bure imo.
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donlever wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:20 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:18 am Alex Mogilny is criminally underrated. It’s a travesty he isn’t in the HHOF.
I'm with you Blob.

As an all around player with respect to raw talent he was superior to Bure imo.
I heard an interview with Pat Quinn in which Quinn described Mogilny as "probably the most talented player he ever coached".
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Ronning's Ghost wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:51 pm
donlever wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:20 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:18 am Alex Mogilny is criminally underrated. It’s a travesty he isn’t in the HHOF.
I'm with you Blob.

As an all around player with respect to raw talent he was superior to Bure imo.
I heard an interview with Pat Quinn in which Quinn described Mogilny as "probably the most talented player he ever coached".
....makes me think of '89 Alaska.

Bure Moginly and Federov together on a Gold winning Russian squad.

Pretty stellar stuff at the time....
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Regina making the Western swing next season. November 29 in Kelowna!

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Was just thinking about the tank teams this season and how to get rid of the practice. It’s obvious that Chicago and Arizona are purposefully screwing their seasons for a chance to draft Bedard or if not him at least a top four pick in the upcoming draft. The current weighted lottery system is not working to disincentivize tanking at all. These teams are not trying at all to ice a competitive line-up. This sucks for their fans for at least this season, and probably more. And it’s bad for increasing the number of fans being attracted to the league to have teams that aren’t entertaining or even trying to be competitive even before the new season begins.

I think the best way to stop rewarding these ne'er-do-well organizations is to give each non-playoff team two picks in a snake order before any playoff team gets a pick, and have an equal odds lottery for all non-playoff team. The team that wins the lottery would get picks 1 and 32, the next would get picks 2 and 31, until the team that did poorest in the lottery got picks 15 and 16. After the 32nd pick, the second round would begin and teams would go in the usual order based on the standings. With this system the league is still trying to help non-playoff teams rebuild faster than playoff teams to increase league competitiveness, and it removes all incentive to tank.

The league probably can’t make this kind of change now because teams like Arizona and Chicago have already whacked themselves for this season, but I hope after the Bedard draft major changes like this are considered.
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Cherry Picker wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:46 am Was just thinking about the tank teams this season and how to get rid of the practice. It’s obvious that Chicago and Arizona are purposefully screwing their seasons for a chance to draft Bedard or if not him at least a top four pick in the upcoming draft. The current weighted lottery system is not working to disincentivize tanking at all. These teams are not trying at all to ice a competitive line-up. This sucks for their fans for at least this season, and probably more. And it’s bad for increasing the number of fans being attracted to the league to have teams that aren’t entertaining or even trying to be competitive even before the new season begins.

I think the best way to stop rewarding these ne'er-do-well organizations is to give each non-playoff team two picks in a snake order before any playoff team gets a pick, and have an equal odds lottery for all non-playoff team. The team that wins the lottery would get picks 1 and 32, the next would get picks 2 and 31, until the team that did poorest in the lottery got picks 15 and 16. After the 32nd pick, the second round would begin and teams would go in the usual order based on the standings. With this system the league is still trying to help non-playoff teams rebuild faster than playoff teams to increase league competitiveness, and it removes all incentive to tank.

The league probably can’t make this kind of change now because teams like Arizona and Chicago have already whacked themselves for this season, but I hope after the Bedard draft major changes like this are considered.
or simply say if you win the lottery one year, you add a 4 spot declining penaty in draft order for 4 years.
year 1 = 4 spot penalty (cant draft higher than 5th)
year 2 = 3 spot penalty (cant draft higher than 4th)
year 3 = 2 spot penalty
year 4 = 1 spot penalty
year 5, no penalty.

added to the current system, it would sure stop the perennial tank teams.
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Madcombinepilot wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:08 pm
Cherry Picker wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:46 am Was just thinking about the tank teams this season and how to get rid of the practice. It’s obvious that Chicago and Arizona are purposefully screwing their seasons for a chance to draft Bedard or if not him at least a top four pick in the upcoming draft. The current weighted lottery system is not working to disincentivize tanking at all. These teams are not trying at all to ice a competitive line-up. This sucks for their fans for at least this season, and probably more. And it’s bad for increasing the number of fans being attracted to the league to have teams that aren’t entertaining or even trying to be competitive even before the new season begins.

I think the best way to stop rewarding these ne'er-do-well organizations is to give each non-playoff team two picks in a snake order before any playoff team gets a pick, and have an equal odds lottery for all non-playoff team. The team that wins the lottery would get picks 1 and 32, the next would get picks 2 and 31, until the team that did poorest in the lottery got picks 15 and 16. After the 32nd pick, the second round would begin and teams would go in the usual order based on the standings. With this system the league is still trying to help non-playoff teams rebuild faster than playoff teams to increase league competitiveness, and it removes all incentive to tank.

The league probably can’t make this kind of change now because teams like Arizona and Chicago have already whacked themselves for this season, but I hope after the Bedard draft major changes like this are considered.
or simply say if you win the lottery one year, you add a 4 spot declining penaty in draft order for 4 years.
year 1 = 4 spot penalty (cant draft higher than 5th)
year 2 = 3 spot penalty (cant draft higher than 4th)
year 3 = 2 spot penalty
year 4 = 1 spot penalty
year 5, no penalty.

added to the current system, it would sure stop the perennial tank teams.
Yup, that would work for Arizona, but it wouldn’t stop all tanking. The occasional tank teams like Chicago this season would still partake. I’d rather eliminate the urge to tank completely.
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Cherry Picker wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:34 pm
Madcombinepilot wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:08 pm
Cherry Picker wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:46 am Was just thinking about the tank teams this season and how to get rid of the practice. It’s obvious that Chicago and Arizona are purposefully screwing their seasons for a chance to draft Bedard or if not him at least a top four pick in the upcoming draft. The current weighted lottery system is not working to disincentivize tanking at all. These teams are not trying at all to ice a competitive line-up. This sucks for their fans for at least this season, and probably more. And it’s bad for increasing the number of fans being attracted to the league to have teams that aren’t entertaining or even trying to be competitive even before the new season begins.

I think the best way to stop rewarding these ne'er-do-well organizations is to give each non-playoff team two picks in a snake order before any playoff team gets a pick, and have an equal odds lottery for all non-playoff team. The team that wins the lottery would get picks 1 and 32, the next would get picks 2 and 31, until the team that did poorest in the lottery got picks 15 and 16. After the 32nd pick, the second round would begin and teams would go in the usual order based on the standings. With this system the league is still trying to help non-playoff teams rebuild faster than playoff teams to increase league competitiveness, and it removes all incentive to tank.

The league probably can’t make this kind of change now because teams like Arizona and Chicago have already whacked themselves for this season, but I hope after the Bedard draft major changes like this are considered.
or simply say if you win the lottery one year, you add a 4 spot declining penaty in draft order for 4 years.
year 1 = 4 spot penalty (cant draft higher than 5th)
year 2 = 3 spot penalty (cant draft higher than 4th)
year 3 = 2 spot penalty
year 4 = 1 spot penalty
year 5, no penalty.

added to the current system, it would sure stop the perennial tank teams.
Yup, that would work for Arizona, but it wouldn’t stop all tanking. The occasional tank teams like Chicago this season would still partake. I’d rather eliminate the urge to tank completely.
I don’t think you ever will. But it puts a stop to Arizona, Buffalo, Edmonton, etc..
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The recent investigation into the antics of the Miami Dolphins that saw the owner suspended for tampering with Brady coming out of retirement also looked at management asking coaches to throw games to enhance the draft prospects. On that they were cleared, but interesting to see it was looked into.
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....the claim was he offered his coach 100K per game to lose.

They were also fined and Ross (team owner) suspended from league activities for tampering with Sean Payton.
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Connor Bedard called out by the coach.
I went with the best tonight (Bedard was not in our best tonight, in my opinion).

The numerous penalties didn't help either. Still, Bedard had a tough game in his zone. - Dave Cameron

'In this case, Cameron was explaining why Bedard only played four minutes in the last 40 minutes of the game against Finland.'

https://www.hockeypatrol.com/Connor-Bed ... ach-149020
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Ronning's Ghost wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:51 pm
donlever wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:20 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:18 am Alex Mogilny is criminally underrated. It’s a travesty he isn’t in the HHOF.
I'm with you Blob.

As an all around player with respect to raw talent he was superior to Bure imo.
I heard an interview with Pat Quinn in which Quinn described Mogilny as "probably the most talented player he ever coached".
Too bad he only played half the games, and usually only a period or two. Great talent but he often seemed about as interested in the game as loui did. If he would have had a green light every night, he would have been a super star, instead of just amazing
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