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Re: Time for a new G-Man?

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5thhorseman wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:11 pm Gomer gonna get gimpy.
Grab yer ankles Gimpy!

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I think we're going to win tomorrow.

Got that feeling.
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:41 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:11 pm Gomer gonna get gimpy.
Grab yer ankles Gimpy!

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:49 am Defensively this team is a mess. The Coyotes and the Islanders play a similar game. The Islanders were shit the season before Trotz was hired. Green has to make changes to the teams “Team defence” it’s absolutely shit right now and move to the Trotz style of shoot the puck in and forecheck style instead of trying to maintain possession entering the zone and the coughing it up. It’s not working when you don’t have Markstrom to save your hide
The zone entry isn't the problem. It's the tire fire in our own zone that gives up 40 shots every other game.
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Madcombinepilot wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:35 pm I don't understand the 'fire TG' rave. Back in October, many experts had the Canucks picking bottom 5.. everyone wanted to be in a position to be fighting for a playoff spot.

... now we are EXACTLY where we wanted to be and you want to fire to coach that got us there?!?

Seems like a knee jerk reaction to a 4 game losing skid...
That's what everyone said when Gallant was axed with Vegas just treading water above the W/C spots.....look at them now.
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Green and his lovers nuts for scrubs and charminy soft vets...ya who care about the fuckin coach.

Shuffle out the trash and load in someone who can teach a physical forecheck and insists on sticking up for each other.

All this talent is being wasted with the troy stetchers, loser erikssons playing regular minutes. Green is coaching like he played the game...as a depth guy who doesnt deserve the ice time
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The Brown Wizard wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:59 am Green and his lovers nuts for scrubs and charminy soft vets...ya who care about the fuckin coach.

Shuffle out the trash and load in someone who can teach a physical forecheck and insists on sticking up for each other.

All this talent is being wasted with the troy stetchers, loser erikssons playing regular minutes. Green is coaching like he played the game...as a depth guy who doesnt deserve the ice time
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Meds wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:37 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:49 am Defensively this team is a mess. The Coyotes and the Islanders play a similar game. The Islanders were shit the season before Trotz was hired. Green has to make changes to the teams “Team defence” it’s absolutely shit right now and move to the Trotz style of shoot the puck in and forecheck style instead of trying to maintain possession entering the zone and the coughing it up. It’s not working when you don’t have Markstrom to save your hide
The zone entry isn't the problem. It's the tire fire in our own zone that gives up 40 shots every other game.
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It’s about losing puck possession as you enter the zone, turning it over in which we constantly do. It’s a simple old school style Trotz plays, dump it in and forecheck, instead of getting hemmed up in the middle of the ice playing a puck possession game. In the D zone the Islanders collapse everyone around the net instead of chasing which opens up the ice. It’s not rocket science. It’s boring hockey but it wins
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It's the coach. Marky goes down and Green doesn't compensate by playing a game more suited to less all out offense, (every player goes for it),
to a game that may be boring to watch, (a form off trapping--clogging the neutral zone). He had to know it was going to be different.
I have to blame the coach cause it simply takes to long to critique all the players warts lately.
Now seriously; Demko was really good,(even great sometimes) as a back up. KNOWING HE WAS A BACK-UP.
Now there's big pressure.
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One could also argue that their defense-first game doesn't work (see recent "third-period-collapse-while-trying-to-hold-the-lead" examples). While it's true that Demko has never had to shoulder the responsibility of being the starter, he has also had some very good games. It's not like we went from Markstrom directly to an ECHL backup.

Do you really believe that re-tooling the attack at this point would be more effective than attempting to improve what they've been doing? I don't imagine they could change the system without taking a few steps back first. The more I think about it, the more it looks like "dance with the girl that brung ya" (Corn, please advise on spelling, or wording for this).
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There has been a problem holding onto leads all season. It not like it is a bunch of rookie mistakes either, because the rookies are rarely out there at crunch time. It is a systems issue which should be coachable, but whatever they are teaching isn't working.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:37 am The untimely Markstrom and Boeser injuries, the positives - Miller trade, Hughes and Pettersson draft picks etc., will save Benning his job. With what’s gone on lately, the recent bed shitting, the continued upward trajectory of the overall is still there which is why Benning stays, but then again, it’s the Aqualini’s, not exactly loyalists. The Ferland, Beagle, Eriksson, Sutter contracts may be enough to get him fired if the bed shitting continues. We all know that Linden was right - the need to be patient, the problem is, the owner isn’t patient, they are a bit Harold Ballard like, Benning is a combination of knowing how to appease the owner to save his job and a bit impatient himself

Green is his own worst enemy as like every coach, but the panic and stress we are seeing in him is not good for a coach. It affects the players. Times like these when you don’t want to see your boss panicking, you want the opposite
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I have seen and heard variations of this narrative (Linden jettisoned because he argued for a slow and careful approach, Benning walking a tightrope with the Little Eagles' impatience) a few times now. It fits the publicly available information, but so would other interpretations. Do we have any other evidence to support this version? Has Trevor talked? Something Jim or Frankie maybe only implied in an interview? Inside sources?
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Re: Time for a new G-Man?

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:21 am
Meds wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:37 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:49 am Defensively this team is a mess. The Coyotes and the Islanders play a similar game. The Islanders were shit the season before Trotz was hired. Green has to make changes to the teams “Team defence” it’s absolutely shit right now and move to the Trotz style of shoot the puck in and forecheck style instead of trying to maintain possession entering the zone and the coughing it up. It’s not working when you don’t have Markstrom to save your hide
The zone entry isn't the problem. It's the tire fire in our own zone that gives up 40 shots every other game.
Idiot

It’s about losing puck possession as you enter the zone, turning it over in which we constantly do. It’s a simple old school style Trotz plays, dump it in and forecheck, instead of getting hemmed up in the middle of the ice playing a puck possession game. In the D zone the Islanders collapse everyone around the net instead of chasing which opens up the ice. It’s not rocket science. It’s boring hockey but it wins
The Islanders have one more win than us. I suppose you could say that it's boring hockey but it gets you to OT and/or a shootout a bit more often.

Every time I watch us play dump and chase I watch the other team come up with the puck. We are built for a possession zone entry, but half our players get confused by that and when a plumber like Sutter or Beagle have the puck and just dump it in they are often mismatched on a line with a player who is thinking carry the puck in and nobody is ready to go after the dump in.

Do one or the other, but always have everyone on the ice doing the same thing.
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Re: Time for a new G-Man?

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Show Travis the door and at least make it look like you're trying to salvage the season Elmer!

Or are you not watching this team lose to an exhausted Columbus squad while Green stands there looking all stoic sending the same tired ooking shit out shift after shift night after night.
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Benning doesnt seem like a reactionary gm. More working the long game and shit like coaching changes would happen in the summer
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