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Post by Hank » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:12 am

EP might be getting Marner Money soon and Hughes is like to command 7-8 Million on a long-term second contract. Even with Loui, Sutter, Schaller, etc. gone, you want to keep your cap for the young guys. Better to get or trade for value players like JT "Overpayment" Miller.

You don't want to become top-heavy with all these big contracts at the top like the Leaves. I say fuggedaboutit.

The Stars CEO might be ready to make some more comments on behalf of the owner soon if their team continue to disappoint. Nill will be gone as GM. I wonder if they aren't already looking at trade scenarios with Benn or maybe even Seguin?
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Post by SKYO » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:15 pm

Hank wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:12 am
EP might be getting Marner Money soon and Hughes is like to command 7-8 Million on a long-term second contract. Even with Loui, Sutter, Schaller, etc. gone, you want to keep your cap for the young guys. Better to get or trade for value players like JT "Overpayment" Miller.

You don't want to become top-heavy with all these big contracts at the top like the Leaves. I say fuggedaboutit.

The Stars CEO might be ready to make some more comments on behalf of the owner soon if their team continue to disappoint. Nill will be gone as GM. I wonder if they aren't already looking at trade scenarios with Benn or maybe even Seguin?
On the other hand we have this year and next to figure out the cap while Petey and Hughes are on their ELC.


2021-22 when Petey and Hughes need new contracts:
OUT: (eriksson/JV/Stech/prospect trade with dallas), ufa's Edler 6m, Sutter 4.375m, Pearson 3.75m, Marky say 5m.



Petey 10-11m
Benn 9.5 (4 years)
Boeser 5.875 (for one season then $8M-$8.5M)
Horvat 5.5
Miller 5.25
Gaud (bridge)
Ferland 3.75
Beags 3
Podkolzin elc
Hoglander elc

Hughes 7.5
Myers 6
Benn (2m extension to play with bro)
Tryamkin/Woo/OJ?

DEMKO $4M?

The only real concern is in 2021 is Podkolzin but he's got 3 years of ELC after an entry slide or two.

So it can work if we trade for ol Benn.
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Post by Meds » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:24 pm

SKYO wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:15 pm
Hank wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:12 am
EP might be getting Marner Money soon and Hughes is like to command 7-8 Million on a long-term second contract. Even with Loui, Sutter, Schaller, etc. gone, you want to keep your cap for the young guys. Better to get or trade for value players like JT "Overpayment" Miller.

You don't want to become top-heavy with all these big contracts at the top like the Leaves. I say fuggedaboutit.

The Stars CEO might be ready to make some more comments on behalf of the owner soon if their team continue to disappoint. Nill will be gone as GM. I wonder if they aren't already looking at trade scenarios with Benn or maybe even Seguin?
On the other hand we have this year and next to figure out the cap while Petey and Hughes are on their ELC.


2021-22 when Petey and Hughes need new contracts:
OUT: (eriksson/JV/Stech/prospect trade with dallas), ufa's Edler 6m, Sutter 4.375m, Pearson 3.75m, Marky say 5m.



Petey 10-11m
Benn 9.5 (4 years)
Boeser 5.875 (for one season then $8M-$8.5M)
Horvat 5.5
Miller 5.25
Gaud (bridge)
Ferland 3.75
Beags 3
Podkolzin elc
Hoglander elc

Hughes 7.5
Myers 6
Benn (2m extension to play with bro)
Tryamkin/Woo/OJ?

DEMKO $4M?

The only real concern is in 2021 is Podkolzin but he's got 3 years of ELC after an entry slide or two.

So it can work if we trade for ol Benn.
SKYO, I don't think you're really thinking it through.

If Demko is our goalie it means he's proven himself to be the elite guy we hope he is. He will be 26 years old and entering goalie prime years. So he is either making backup chump change or he's getting big dollars, and Benning would be stupid not to pay big and with term for an elite goalie that will be under contract from 26 to 33 or so years of age.....

Benn $9.5M - Pettersson $10M - Boeser $5.875M
Miller $5.25M - Horvat $5.5M - Ferland $3.75M
Roussel $3M - Gaudette $3M - ______________
____________ - Beagle $3M - ______________

Hughes $7.5M - Myers $6M
___________ - ___________
Benn $2.5M - Woo $891K

Demko $7.5M
DiPietro $811K

Luongo Recapture $3M

Total Cap: $76.36M

The cap MIGHT be up to $86M if we're lucky.

That leaves $10M for 5 regulars and 2 or 3 spares. Considering that two of those regulars have to be top-4 blueliners who will cost us a minimum of $4M each.....ummmm......so that would mean our cap is now $84.36M and we still need 5 or 6 guys. Even if they all take league minimum it can't be done. So.....not happening.

Obviously this is based on a cap ceiling of $86M, which it may or may not be.

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Post by Richardstroker69 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:35 pm

Meds wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:24 pm
SKYO wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:15 pm
Hank wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:12 am
EP might be getting Marner Money soon and Hughes is like to command 7-8 Million on a long-term second contract. Even with Loui, Sutter, Schaller, etc. gone, you want to keep your cap for the young guys. Better to get or trade for value players like JT "Overpayment" Miller.

You don't want to become top-heavy with all these big contracts at the top like the Leaves. I say fuggedaboutit.

The Stars CEO might be ready to make some more comments on behalf of the owner soon if their team continue to disappoint. Nill will be gone as GM. I wonder if they aren't already looking at trade scenarios with Benn or maybe even Seguin?
On the other hand we have this year and next to figure out the cap while Petey and Hughes are on their ELC.


2021-22 when Petey and Hughes need new contracts:
OUT: (eriksson/JV/Stech/prospect trade with dallas), ufa's Edler 6m, Sutter 4.375m, Pearson 3.75m, Marky say 5m.



Petey 10-11m
Benn 9.5 (4 years)
Boeser 5.875 (for one season then $8M-$8.5M)
Horvat 5.5
Miller 5.25
Gaud (bridge)
Ferland 3.75
Beags 3
Podkolzin elc
Hoglander elc

Hughes 7.5
Myers 6
Benn (2m extension to play with bro)
Tryamkin/Woo/OJ?

DEMKO $4M?

The only real concern is in 2021 is Podkolzin but he's got 3 years of ELC after an entry slide or two.

So it can work if we trade for ol Benn.
SKYO, I don't think you're really thinking it through.

If Demko is our goalie it means he's proven himself to be the elite guy we hope he is. He will be 26 years old and entering goalie prime years. So he is either making backup chump change or he's getting big dollars, and Benning would be stupid not to pay big and with term for an elite goalie that will be under contract from 26 to 33 or so years of age.....

Benn $9.5M - Pettersson $10M - Boeser $5.875M
Miller $5.25M - Horvat $5.5M - Ferland $3.75M
Roussel $3M - Gaudette $3M - ______________
____________ - Beagle $3M - ______________

Hughes $7.5M - Myers $6M
___________ - ___________
Benn $2.5M - Woo $891K

Demko $7.5M
DiPietro $811K

Luongo Recapture $3M

Total Cap: $76.36M

The cap MIGHT be up to $86M if we're lucky.

That leaves $10M for 5 regulars and 2 or 3 spares. Considering that two of those regulars have to be top-4 blueliners who will cost us a minimum of $4M each.....ummmm......so that would mean our cap is now $84.36M and we still need 5 or 6 guys. Even if they all take league minimum it can't be done. So.....not happening.

Obviously this is based on a cap ceiling of $86M, which it may or may not be.
I think you could throw tyramkin on the second pairing in the 3 million range, and possibly a guy like joulevi. The other 3 spots could be MacEwen, hoglander, madden, Lind, jasek, motte all of whom would make close to league minimum.

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Post by Reefer2 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:01 pm

Just say no to any high priced guy in his 30's.

This team is still another year or 2 from being serious contenders, do not hamper that by some guy not producing to his cap hit.

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Post by The Brown Wizard » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:18 pm

Reefer2 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:01 pm
Just say no to any high priced guy in his 30's.

This team is still another year or 2 from being serious contenders, do not hamper that by some guy not producing to his cap hit.
Because there is a brief window when your superstars are on entry level contracts...otherwise see toronto for results of waiting to build for a deep run
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Post by micky107 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:56 pm

As soon as we acquired Jordie, figured it would only be a matter of time until the "Let's get bro Jamie" began.

There is as much chance of this happening at this juncture in time as there was in uniting all three Subban bros when we had Jordan.

Maybe that's overstating a bit. (insert smiley for one raised eyebrow).
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Post by Reefer2 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:26 pm

The Brown Wizard wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:18 pm
Reefer2 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:01 pm
Just say no to any high priced guy in his 30's.

This team is still another year or 2 from being serious contenders, do not hamper that by some guy not producing to his cap hit.
Because there is a brief window when your superstars are on entry level contracts...otherwise see toronto for results of waiting to build for a deep run
Not saying to wait for others to develop, I am saying get the right UFA that fits within the cap. Benn will make $9.5M until 2025, just do not think getting him now will make the team a SC contender.

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Post by SKYO » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:29 pm

Meds wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:24 pm
SKYO wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:15 pm
So it can work if we trade for ol Benn.
If Demko is our goalie it means he's proven himself to be the elite guy we hope he is.

Benn $9.5M - Pettersson $10M - Boeser $5.875M
Miller $5.25M - Horvat $5.5M - Ferland $3.75M
Roussel $3M - Gaudette $3M - ______________
____________ - Beagle $3M - ______________

Hughes $7.5M - Myers $6M
___________ - ___________
Benn $2.5M - Woo $891K

Demko $7.5M
DiPietro $811K

Luongo Recapture $3M

Total Cap: $76.36M
Even at $85M it can conceivably work:

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cap space $166K lol with Luongo's 3M recapture.

Lu's recapture is conveniently gone when Boeser needs a raise.

Demko I'd say would get a Corey Crawford or Braden Holtby $6M AAV contract.

When Horvat needs a new contract, Ferland and Miller will be UFA's.

Podkolzin could get a bridge contract in the year 2024.

And my hunch is Roussel will be snapped up by Seattle, seems like a perfect guy to add to a expansion team for experience/work ethic blah blah.
Just like my prediction of Sbisa getting taken by Vegas.
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Post by Jovocop » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:24 am

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@TSNBobMcKenzie tells @HalfordTSN @JasonBroughTSN he's heard some low rumblings around Troy Stecher, but also says the #Canucks would present Stecher as a top-four guy, while a potential buying team would say Stecher is bottom-pair

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Wonder whether is to make room for a rookie defenseman or loading up with even more size on the backend.

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Post by Doyle Hargraves » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:25 am

What the hell is a low rumbling?
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Post by 5thhorseman » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:32 am

Doyle Hargraves wrote:
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What the hell is a low rumbling?
That's what McKenzie listens for when rubbing his belly like a crystal ball.

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Post by Topper » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:40 am

cutting bait on the lil trojan is long over due

why go after an old expensive player?
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Post by ESQ » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:47 am

The Brown Wizard wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:18 pm
Reefer2 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:01 pm
Just say no to any high priced guy in his 30's.

This team is still another year or 2 from being serious contenders, do not hamper that by some guy not producing to his cap hit.
Because there is a brief window when your superstars are on entry level contracts...otherwise see toronto for results of waiting to build for a deep run
That's why the team traded for Miller, rather than going for $9.5 Benn.

Over the next 5 years, Miller will have more points than Benn, book it!

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Post by Doyle Hargraves » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:01 am

Topper wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:40 am
cutting bait on the lil trojan is long over due

why go after an old expensive player?
Who’s his replacement and at what cost?
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