Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 19-20 Sponsored by SKYO

[Curmudgeon]

I did hear it on good authority last summer that Benning was close to acquiring Risto...(Faro, YT lounge lizard)

Seriously? That's not the type of player I want them to add at this point. They need to tighten things up on defense and I'd prefer it be someone who's more abrasive too.

6'4 214lb Risto had 203 hits this season, he hits with a lot of power for a pt producer.



I just think he needs to be put in the right situation to succeed, on a more well balanced team, with a strong defensive LD to cover for him.

I saw that and his year to year hit numbers are high but he doesn't strike me as being as intimidating as those numbers are. I don't know, you also have to weigh what Buffalo would be asking for against his defensive deficiencies and it doesn't seem as the right fit for where they're at and what they need. He was a guy I thought they could have dealt for last year instead of signing Myers, then I thought about the asking price and if it's something like Boeser+ it's not worth it. They're defensive play really needs to be fixed before they can take the next step as a team.

I read this article around that time and it mentions a 2nd line center and Horvat obviously would be a no go.
https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/ ... inen-where

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Or what about this Dustin Byfuglien guy? 35yrs old, is he an actual UFA? does anyone know, 3 years of the beast would be nice.

Yes he's a UFA, but I feel Buffy is done physically and mentally with hockey...

[Mickey107]

I did hear it on good authority last summer that Benning was close to acquiring Risto...(Faro, YT lounge lizard)

Seriously? That's not the type of player I want them to add at this point. They need to tighten things up on defense and I'd prefer it be someone who's more abrasive too.

Ya, agree. The pluses don't outweigh the minuses. Maybe a little too much personality as well. Not that a little elan isn't cool but his just
seems rehearsed.
Two more years at 5.4? No thanks. He gets caught too much.
We have Olli.

[Curmudgeon]

I did hear it on good authority last summer that Benning was close to acquiring Risto...(Faro, YT lounge lizard)

Seriously? That's not the type of player I want them to add at this point. They need to tighten things up on defense and I'd prefer it be someone who's more abrasive too.

Ya, agree. The pluses don't outweigh the minuses. Maybe a little too much personality as well. Not that a little elan isn't cool but his just
seems rehearsed.
Two more years at 5.4? No thanks. He gets caught too much.
We have Olli.

I can't comment on the guy's personality but wonder how much he'd be wanting on his next deal. I'd be surprised if the Sabres just gave him away, they have top 6 holes to fill at forward and he's the best piece they can dangle to fill one.

[JelloPuddingPop]

I did hear it on good authority last summer that Benning was close to acquiring Risto...(Faro, YT lounge lizard)

I love how much play you got from this! LOL - People from, and who work in Faro are all suffering from Mine-Tailings-itis. Too much drinking of the "funny water"

It would be special for a rumor to come true out of that place and not be from Cyprus Anvil.

[Mickey107]

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Article from one year ago.

Canucks have trade interest in one of Buffalo's defencemen: report
Rob Williams / Jun 18 2019, 9:57 pm

Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports
Source : #Canucks seem to be talking with Buffalo about a defenseman, not sure if its Rasmus Ristolainen or Zach Bogosian.
9:23 AM · Jun 18, 2019

Rob Williams;
Ristolainen’s critics – of which the analytics community is one – will point to his spotty defensive play. He finished with the second-worst Corsi-for percentage among Sabres regulars on defence, not to mention the worst plus-minus in the entire league.

One was enough.

[SKYO]

As for Corsi, you have to take it with a grain of salt, due to the horrendous team that Buffalo has built, combine that with bad goaltending & your metrics will be worse.

Even the high-end corsi guy Colin Miller after getting traded from Vegas went from 62%, 59%, 59% to 50% with the sabres on cf% evens.

Now if you really want to get tripped out, check out corsi CF% 5v5:
Chris Tanev:
2018 47.3%
2019 44.2%
2020 45.2%

vs

Risto:
2018 48.5%
2019 47.8%
2020 46.6%

[Blob Mckenzie]

As for Corsi, you have to take it with a grain of salt, due to the horrendous team that Buffalo has built.

Even the high-end corsi guy Colin Miller after getting traded from Vegas went from 62%, 59%, 59% to 50% with the sabres on cf% evens.

Now if you really want to get tripped out, check out corsi CF% 5v5:
Chris Tanev:
2018 47.3%
2019 44.2%
2020 45.2%

vs

Risto:
2018 48.5%
2019 47.8%
2020 46.6%

I don’t pretend to follow those fancy stats that much. But quality of competition is one thing to keep in mind along with the trusty eye test.

[Richardstroker69]

As for Corsi, you have to take it with a grain of salt, due to the horrendous team that Buffalo has built.

Even the high-end corsi guy Colin Miller after getting traded from Vegas went from 62%, 59%, 59% to 50% with the sabres on cf% evens.

Now if you really want to get tripped out, check out corsi CF% 5v5:
Chris Tanev:
2018 47.3%
2019 44.2%
2020 45.2%

vs

Risto:
2018 48.5%
2019 47.8%
2020 46.6%

I don’t pretend to follow those fancy stats that much. But quality of competition is one thing to keep in mind along with the trusty eye test.

Quality of competition was pretty similar risto played top minutes

[Blob Mckenzie]

Did he? I didn’t bother to look it up. He’s not a bad player from my limited viewings of him but I’m not giving Virtanen up for him. If Jake has to be dealt I’d prefer a picks only deal. If they are bound and determined to take the big ticket off of Buffalo’s hands, they need to send some of the deadweight out as part of the deal.

11.4 million combined for Myers and Risto. No thanks

[Cousin Strawberry]

I did hear it on good authority last summer that Benning was close to acquiring Risto...(Faro, YT lounge lizard)

I love how much play you got from this! LOL - People from, and who work in Faro are all suffering from Mine-Tailings-itis. Too much drinking of the "funny water"

It would be special for a rumor to come true out of that place and not be from Cyprus Anvil.

Oh fuck i know. It was a huge bar tab piss up too. I got in pretty good shit when i submitted the receipt for one 500 dollar dinner LOL.
"Ya but...it was a potential client..."
-hung to fuck for a week Wiz

Dude sure seemed convincing to old swillie McWiz that fine evening

[Richardstroker69]

Did he? I didn’t bother to look it up. He’s not a bad player from my limited viewings of him but I’m not giving Virtanen up for him. If Jake has to be dealt I’d prefer a picks only deal. If they are bound and determined to take the big ticket off of Buffalo’s hands, they need to send some of the deadweight out as part of the deal.

11.4 million combined for Myers and Risto. No thanks

They would definitely need to send something back salary wise. Risto I think is pretty similar to Tyler, a decent second pairing guy. I still think barry is coming home for cheap....

[SKYO]

Did he? I didn’t bother to look it up. He’s not a bad player from my limited viewings of him but I’m not giving Virtanen up for him. If Jake has to be dealt I’d prefer a picks only deal. If they are bound and determined to take the big ticket off of Buffalo’s hands, they need to send some of the deadweight out as part of the deal.

11.4 million combined for Myers and Risto. No thanks

They would definitely need to send something back salary wise. Risto I think is pretty similar to Tyler, a decent second pairing guy. I still think barry is coming home for cheap....

Cheap being likely around $6M x 5 or 6 years for the 5'10 190lbs RD Barrie, at least we won't have to give up assets to acquire him and he'll add another sniper to the D-corps.

Edler-Barrie
Hughes-Myers

Would be a solid top 4 D.

Juolevi, Rafferty, Tryamkin, Stecher.

[rats19]

Did he? I didn’t bother to look it up. He’s not a bad player from my limited viewings of him but I’m not giving Virtanen up for him. If Jake has to be dealt I’d prefer a picks only deal. If they are bound and determined to take the big ticket off of Buffalo’s hands, they need to send some of the deadweight out as part of the deal.

11.4 million combined for Myers and Risto. No thanks

They would definitely need to send something back salary wise. Risto I think is pretty similar to Tyler, a decent second pairing guy. I still think barry is coming home for cheap....

Cheap being likely around $6M x 5 or 6 years for the 5'10 190lbs RD Barrie, at least we won't have to give up assets to acquire him and he'll add another sniper to the D-corps.

Edler-Barrie
Hughes-Myers

Would be a solid top 4 D.

Juolevi, Rafferty, Tryamkin, Stecher.

So Tanev would be gone?

[SKYO]

Did he? I didn’t bother to look it up. He’s not a bad player from my limited viewings of him but I’m not giving Virtanen up for him. If Jake has to be dealt I’d prefer a picks only deal. If they are bound and determined to take the big ticket off of Buffalo’s hands, they need to send some of the deadweight out as part of the deal.

11.4 million combined for Myers and Risto. No thanks

They would definitely need to send something back salary wise. Risto I think is pretty similar to Tyler, a decent second pairing guy. I still think barry is coming home for cheap....

Cheap being likely around $6M x 5 or 6 years for the 5'10 190lbs RD Barrie, at least we won't have to give up assets to acquire him and he'll add another sniper to the D-corps.

Edler-Barrie
Hughes-Myers

Would be a solid top 4 D.

Juolevi, Rafferty, Tryamkin, Stecher.

So Tanev would be gone?

Yes, adios muchachos, his money/cap/roster spot goes to Barrie.

Tanev goes back to his motherland in Toronto or some other team, likely getting $5M x 4 or 5 years in the free market.