Thats the last twitches of elite potential kicking away at an eastern GMs' medulla oblongata who may be ready to offer up a Noah Dobson/K'Andre Miller type of defensive asset in exchange.Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:38 pmI thought Boeser looked the best I had seen since his rookie year when he finally returned from injury prior to the shut down. He seem to me moving quicker and with greater agility. It even looked like he had dropped a few pounds somehow. I found his late season performance to be pretty encouraging and I'm really hoping that's the real Brock Boeser again.Mëds wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:17 pm$5.5M/yr max for Toffoli. No more than 4 years.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:17 pm I don't think Mickster is a fan of resigning TT at 5-6/yr and moving Boeser for a dman. That's what all the angst is about
Mick we have a hole on the back end and a surplus up front (if we manage to resign toffy)... plus Boesers performance this season flattened the curve on his development from the 100pt winger he was looking like into the 50 point/60 games a yr version we saw.
Selling high while theres still top end potential left on the asset makes more sense than doubling down on right wingers while suffering through the defensive deficit that the team currently is enduring...dontcha think?
I'm not selling high or low on Boeser, nor am I writing him off as becoming an 80 point winger. He's still young, he's been hurt, and then there's the distraction of his father's health. Definitely cutting the kid some slack.
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His career is at the crossroads....a strat strapped across his back and whether or not hes ready to deal will determine how this story ends.
A perfect time for Benning to max return and reinforce his weakest position. As the Chef has noted we have another excellent righty coming aboard in just over a year. Time for Benning to play 4D Trump/Pence chess
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The kind thing to do would be to trade him to Minny... and you KNOW they want him.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:12 pmThats the last twitches of elite potential kicking away at an eastern GMs' medulla oblongata who may be ready to offer up a Noah Dobson/K'Andre Miller type of defensive asset in exchange.Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:38 pmI thought Boeser looked the best I had seen since his rookie year when he finally returned from injury prior to the shut down. He seem to me moving quicker and with greater agility. It even looked like he had dropped a few pounds somehow. I found his late season performance to be pretty encouraging and I'm really hoping that's the real Brock Boeser again.Mëds wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:17 pm$5.5M/yr max for Toffoli. No more than 4 years.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:17 pm I don't think Mickster is a fan of resigning TT at 5-6/yr and moving Boeser for a dman. That's what all the angst is about
Mick we have a hole on the back end and a surplus up front (if we manage to resign toffy)... plus Boesers performance this season flattened the curve on his development from the 100pt winger he was looking like into the 50 point/60 games a yr version we saw.
Selling high while theres still top end potential left on the asset makes more sense than doubling down on right wingers while suffering through the defensive deficit that the team currently is enduring...dontcha think?
I'm not selling high or low on Boeser, nor am I writing him off as becoming an 80 point winger. He's still young, he's been hurt, and then there's the distraction of his father's health. Definitely cutting the kid some slack.
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The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:16 pmHis career is at the crossroads....a strat strapped across his back and whether or not hes ready to deal will determine how this story ends.
A perfect time for Benning to max return and reinforce his weakest position. As the Chef has noted we have another excellent righty coming aboard in just over a year. Time for Benning to play 4D Trump/Pence chess
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I heard Ferkland's concussion issues were vision related and not so much dizziness/puking/headaches, etc. Hopefully this is a good sign, just a mild case and will recover with time. Also heard he's working out hard in Manitoba, doing well and would push to suit up for us if we were playing right now.Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:06 am Why would you buy out Ferlund over Baertschi?? Baertschi is a drag on the economy. If Ferlund plays, he plays, if not, then he is LTIR.
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I think next year is as simple as Boeser / Virtanen / MacEwen / ?Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:49 pm Regardless something has to give on the right side, by the time Podkolzin arrives the right side will be packed if Kole Lind continues develop like he has and Lockwood impresses early. MacEwan has made the team, IMO.
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Podkolzin is two years away from playing in the NHL, at least. Lind and or Lockwood have to earn a spot.
We may or may not agree on a contract that would have TT sign here. If he doesn't, there is a spot to fight for. If he does, that's a strong
Right side. Perfect.
The defense will be difficult but it is for pretty much every team. Plenty of extra time for Chris Tanev to be thinking about things.
Does he want to stay or go? Will Stecher take a low-ball offer if there is one. How will old Eddy look when play finally returns.
Myers will be Myers. Hughes sound anxious to get going again. He was on a video clip today, (with I think country music in the background), thanking first responders and saying the two team-mates he misses the most are Chris Tanev and Petey.
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Mickster, I was talking about the year after next when the Pod arrives. Pod is not 2 years away. He’s already playing comfortably well in the KHL. Size is not an issue either. He won’t be going to Utica, so you’re assuming he resigns with a KHL team after this next last contractual season of his?
After next season Lind will have played 3 seasons in the AHL. The kid had an excellent sophomore season this year. He should be pushing for a job the same time Pod arrives
Lockwood may be the only one on the list who stays in Utica for a sophomore year, but the kid is very competitive and could surprise
By all accounts the Canucks want to sign Toffoli especially considering how well he fit in with the club
If Toffoli resigns that is 6 RW’s minus Lockwood. A trade with a Boeser after next season is a very strong possibility
After next season Lind will have played 3 seasons in the AHL. The kid had an excellent sophomore season this year. He should be pushing for a job the same time Pod arrives
Lockwood may be the only one on the list who stays in Utica for a sophomore year, but the kid is very competitive and could surprise
By all accounts the Canucks want to sign Toffoli especially considering how well he fit in with the club
If Toffoli resigns that is 6 RW’s minus Lockwood. A trade with a Boeser after next season is a very strong possibility
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Or Boeser moves to the left side.Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:48 am Mickster, I was talking about the year after next when the Pod arrives. Pod is not 2 years away. He’s already playing comfortably well in the KHL. Size is not an issue either. He won’t be going to Utica, so you’re assuming he resigns with a KHL team after this next last contractual season of his?
After next season Lind will have played 3 seasons in the AHL. The kid had an excellent sophomore season this year. He should be pushing for a job the same time Pod arrives
Lockwood may be the only one on the list who stays in Utica for a sophomore year, but the kid is very competitive and could surprise
By all accounts the Canucks want to sign Toffoli especially considering how well he fit in with the club
If Toffoli resigns that is 6 RW’s minus Lockwood. A trade with a Boeser after next season is a very strong possibility
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we know what we paid get JT Miller. What would someone pay to get Boeser?
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What I want to know is why everyone is so high on Matt Dumba.
He's not big, listed at 6 foot 180 pounds.
He's not a point producer from the back end. One season of 50 points, but other than that he's been a 35 point player. I would suggest that our own prospect, Jett Woo, projects as being comparable to Dumba. As a comparison Dumba's best WHL season saw him notch 57 points in 69 games in his draft year, he then went back to junior and produced at a lesser rate. Woo, put up 66 points in his post draft year, and followed that up with 46 points on a different team this season.
If you're talking about moving Boeser the only guys I am entertaining in that trade coming back are Ekblad, Jones, or McAvoy.....I'm assuming we want a RHD.
He's not big, listed at 6 foot 180 pounds.
He's not a point producer from the back end. One season of 50 points, but other than that he's been a 35 point player. I would suggest that our own prospect, Jett Woo, projects as being comparable to Dumba. As a comparison Dumba's best WHL season saw him notch 57 points in 69 games in his draft year, he then went back to junior and produced at a lesser rate. Woo, put up 66 points in his post draft year, and followed that up with 46 points on a different team this season.
If you're talking about moving Boeser the only guys I am entertaining in that trade coming back are Ekblad, Jones, or McAvoy.....I'm assuming we want a RHD.
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Noah Dobson is my ideal target but i would assume hes untouchableMëds wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:58 pm What I want to know is why everyone is so high on Matt Dumba.
He's not big, listed at 6 foot 180 pounds.
He's not a point producer from the back end. One season of 50 points, but other than that he's been a 35 point player. I would suggest that our own prospect, Jett Woo, projects as being comparable to Dumba. As a comparison Dumba's best WHL season saw him notch 57 points in 69 games in his draft year, he then went back to junior and produced at a lesser rate. Woo, put up 66 points in his post draft year, and followed that up with 46 points on a different team this season.
If you're talking about moving Boeser the only guys I am entertaining in that trade coming back are Ekblad, Jones, or McAvoy.....I'm assuming we want a RHD.
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Safe bet on that one.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:04 pmNoah Dobson is my ideal target but i would assume hes untouchableMëds wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:58 pm What I want to know is why everyone is so high on Matt Dumba.
He's not big, listed at 6 foot 180 pounds.
He's not a point producer from the back end. One season of 50 points, but other than that he's been a 35 point player. I would suggest that our own prospect, Jett Woo, projects as being comparable to Dumba. As a comparison Dumba's best WHL season saw him notch 57 points in 69 games in his draft year, he then went back to junior and produced at a lesser rate. Woo, put up 66 points in his post draft year, and followed that up with 46 points on a different team this season.
If you're talking about moving Boeser the only guys I am entertaining in that trade coming back are Ekblad, Jones, or McAvoy.....I'm assuming we want a RHD.
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Ekblad is definitely a potential target. Hes underwhelmed for the cats but is still young enough to have more game than hes shown IMO. Could easily see that move happening especially given the long and fruitful trade history between these 2 franchises
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I'll bet they'd strongly consider an even up swap Dobson for Quinn Highes.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:04 pmNoah Dobson is my ideal target but i would assume hes untouchableMëds wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:58 pm What I want to know is why everyone is so high on Matt Dumba.
He's not big, listed at 6 foot 180 pounds.
He's not a point producer from the back end. One season of 50 points, but other than that he's been a 35 point player. I would suggest that our own prospect, Jett Woo, projects as being comparable to Dumba. As a comparison Dumba's best WHL season saw him notch 57 points in 69 games in his draft year, he then went back to junior and produced at a lesser rate. Woo, put up 66 points in his post draft year, and followed that up with 46 points on a different team this season.
If you're talking about moving Boeser the only guys I am entertaining in that trade coming back are Ekblad, Jones, or McAvoy.....I'm assuming we want a RHD.
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Good points, I think Dumba keeps coming up because he's the only somewhat desirable piece in Minny, and everyone is assuming we'd be doing Boeser a favour by trading him to the Twin Cities.Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:58 pm What I want to know is why everyone is so high on Matt Dumba.
He's not big, listed at 6 foot 180 pounds.
He's not a point producer from the back end. One season of 50 points, but other than that he's been a 35 point player. I would suggest that our own prospect, Jett Woo, projects as being comparable to Dumba. As a comparison Dumba's best WHL season saw him notch 57 points in 69 games in his draft year, he then went back to junior and produced at a lesser rate. Woo, put up 66 points in his post draft year, and followed that up with 46 points on a different team this season.
If you're talking about moving Boeser the only guys I am entertaining in that trade coming back are Ekblad, Jones, or McAvoy.....I'm assuming we want a RHD.
Boeser for Dumba is too close to Hall for Larsson, IMO.