Offseason grades so far

[Cousin Strawberry]

Gaudette is the type of carrot a contender moves at the deadline to load up on vets for a playoff run.

His ceiling is what sutter is right now.

[Topper]

I am not a big fan of the Beagle signing for the usual reasons (largely term at age). But in year 1, Beagle delivered exactly as expected. There is a real value to an effective PK specialist. The numbers back up that he's good on the PK, it isn't just that he plays on the PK. Improving the PK % is as important as improving the PP% -- more important when you take more penalties than you draw. And there may be value to his intangibles (though its an intangible value!), though its way harder to evaluate that value as a fan who just sees the on ice product and rarely finds meaningful value in press comments from players and the team.

Point is, many FAs don't deliver on the ice what you might hope for and Beagle did.

For intangibles, which I dislike because they can not be quantified, I look at the standing ovation Beagle received upon his return to Washington in a Canuck uniform and the respect he was shown by the Capitals bench.

[Madcombinepilot]

Gaudette is the type of carrot a contender moves at the deadline to load up on vets for a playoff run.

His ceiling is what sutter is right now.

Yup. 'Crept we ain't contenders, so develop him behind Sutter until we are.

By then, Gaudette is on a controlled contract and fits the cap structure awesomely and Sutter is off the books. Win-win.

[Madcombinepilot]

I am not a big fan of the Beagle signing for the usual reasons (largely term at age). But in year 1, Beagle delivered exactly as expected. There is a real value to an effective PK specialist. The numbers back up that he's good on the PK, it isn't just that he plays on the PK. Improving the PK % is as important as improving the PP% -- more important when you take more penalties than you draw. And there may be value to his intangibles (though its an intangible value!), though its way harder to evaluate that value as a fan who just sees the on ice product and rarely finds meaningful value in press comments from players and the team.

Point is, many FAs don't deliver on the ice what you might hope for and Beagle did.

For intangibles, which I dislike because they can not be quantified, I look at the standing ovation Beagle received upon his return to Washington in a Canuck uniform and the respect he was shown by the Capitals bench.

Yup. You don't see that very often when a 4th Line guy changes teams...

Shit, Ovi gave him a hug ffs... Beags brings it in ways we don't see.

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[Chef Boi RD]

It’s sll part and process of being a genius

Ya no thats not really how it works but carry on...

The genius of the of the genius is not being afraid of making mistakes. Your mistakes are what make you better, Jim don’t give a shit, he’s fearless, which is why he is a genius

[Mickey107]

.
.Adam Gaudette was drafted to be a point producer not a defensive specialist or a penalty killer.
If that is the role he's now expected to play, he should be traded.



. If there is currently no room on the Canucks for another scoring, point producing forward, then this isn't the appropriate location
for a player of his ilk.
There is no comparing him to Brandon Sutter other than the position title they share on a roster sheet.
Not a matter of who is a superior player. Should not be a matter of who replaces who.
Personally, I might talk to Gaudette about the possibility of playing a wing but it aint up to me.
I do know this: It's time critical. He's already altering his approach to the game, that's bad.
I would put this next line in big letters, but;
"A good NHL coach could help him encompass a better defensive awareness to his game without taking away the offensive prowess."
Now I believe that is what Green is trying to do but if there is no roster room, well, fuck.
I am not hopeful that a Utica assignment will do anything positive at all, not now.
Shit! Maybe one more year but it's risking him to the oblivion of "Who the hell am I" syndrome.

This is all that's left of the 2017 Summer showdown highlights, where he and Pettersson lit it up. Gaudette even gave him a taste
of a body check near the end of the game. This video doesn't show much and the voice feed is NA.



Of course Adam's biggest crime was not lighting it up: .
when he was burning off a year of his entry level,

[UWSaint]

.
.Adam Gaudette was drafted to be a point producer not a defensive specialist or a penalty killer.
If that is the role he's now expected to play, he should be traded.

A fifth round draft pick is drafted to maybe possibly make it to the NHL. If he provides any special value to the NHL team (whether scoring or penalty killing) it is a coup.

Any player should be traded where the return exceeds the value and makes sense for a team’s overall plan. Maybe the Canucks don’t need a 3rd line center type (all eggs in Sutter basket now, Madden basket in future, trade?, free agency), but if they do and Gaudette is looking capable of filling that role, he has a value to this team in that role. I’m not sure yet that he is capable of this role or more (I like him, but I’m a realist and he’s not there yet), but I am sure that center prospect depth is not all that deep.

[Madcombinepilot]

but I am sure that center prospect depth is not all that deep

Can Confirm. We really should hold onto all our centers until we see where we are at.