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Strangelove wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:34 pm
vic wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:29 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:06 am I hope Benning holds firm. Let’s see how Louie likes Utica. Or......get out there Berry and find a market. He has permission to do so, so I’ve been told.
Team might want to play they young kids in Utica - is there even room for him there?

Kalamazoo might be an option? How would that be perceived in the NHL? Would it detract future free agents from signing in Vancouver or would they brush it off as a one-off "he deserved it for the way he played"
An NHL team cannot demote an NHLer on a one-way contract any further down than the NHL.

Eriksson would have to agree to Kalamazoo.
Could they bury him in Utica and then make him a permanent healthy scratch?

If the rumors of him not waiving his NTC for Edmonton, then I'm guessing there might be other teams he won't accept a trade too.

Good on Jim for playing hardball.
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vic wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:03 pm Could they bury him in Utica and then make him a permanent healthy scratch?
Oh yeah! 8-)

vic wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:03 pm Good on Jim for playing hardball.
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Strangelove wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:25 pm
Jimmy is a boss. :thumbs:
Jimmy IS boss!

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I’m still keeping an eye on the Stars as a potential destination for Loui Eriksson.

Could see something involving Cogliano who has 2 years at $3.25M per left and/or Comeau who also has 2 years remaining at $2.4M per
12:09 PM - 14 Jul 2019
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vic wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:03 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:34 pm
vic wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:29 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:06 am I hope Benning holds firm. Let’s see how Louie likes Utica. Or......get out there Berry and find a market. He has permission to do so, so I’ve been told.
Team might want to play they young kids in Utica - is there even room for him there?

Kalamazoo might be an option? How would that be perceived in the NHL? Would it detract future free agents from signing in Vancouver or would they brush it off as a one-off "he deserved it for the way he played"
An NHL team cannot demote an NHLer on a one-way contract any further down than the NHL.

Eriksson would have to agree to Kalamazoo.
Could they bury him in Utica and then make him a permanent healthy scratch?

If the rumors of him not waiving his NTC for Edmonton, then I'm guessing there might be other teams he won't accept a trade too.

Good on Jim for playing hardball.
So i'm assuming Erikkson has a 1-way deal, can he be shipped to Utica or not?? :?
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Absolutely, YES..

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson

Only where you see NMC no movement clause, the first 2 years, was it the case.
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dangler wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:26 pm
vic wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:03 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:34 pm
vic wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:29 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:06 am I hope Benning holds firm. Let’s see how Louie likes Utica. Or......get out there Berry and find a market. He has permission to do so, so I’ve been told.
Team might want to play they young kids in Utica - is there even room for him there?

Kalamazoo might be an option? How would that be perceived in the NHL? Would it detract future free agents from signing in Vancouver or would they brush it off as a one-off "he deserved it for the way he played"
An NHL team cannot demote an NHLer on a one-way contract any further down than the NHL.

Eriksson would have to agree to Kalamazoo.
Could they bury him in Utica and then make him a permanent healthy scratch?

If the rumors of him not waiving his NTC for Edmonton, then I'm guessing there might be other teams he won't accept a trade too.

Good on Jim for playing hardball.
So i'm assuming Erikkson has a 1-way deal, can he be shipped to Utica or not?? :?
A one way is about salary only, not movement. A one way means he gets 6 million whether he plays in Vancouver or Utica. A two way means he would have a different salary, 6M in the NHL and a contractual different amount in the AHL. You never see two ways, well rarely, with vets, just kids.

It’s the type of trade protection that dictates whether he can be waived to the AHL. A full NMC and we are stuck. Any type of NTC provides for the ability to waive. He has a NTC now so we can waive his ass and save around 1M on the cap if he reports. We save 6M if he refuses, unless we give him permission to not report which we did with Prust.
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micky107 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:20 pm .
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I’m still keeping an eye on the Stars as a potential destination for Loui Eriksson.

Could see something involving Cogliano who has 2 years at $3.25M per left and/or Comeau who also has 2 years remaining at $2.4M per
12:09 PM - 14 Jul 2019
That's a good deal for the canucks, if there's no retention or sweetener.

Assigning both players to the farm saves an extra $1.5ish for the next 2 years, $6 mil in year three.

At smaller cap hits and shorter length, they can also be traded with retention more easily.
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Today is the deadline for RFA's to accept qualifying offers.
Brock Boeser obviously won't accept his Q-O of $874,125.
Discussions are still taking place between the #Canucks and Nikolay Goldobin.
6:15 AM - 15 Jul 2019
Of note>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>before our cap crunch, I said why not give Goldy some more time. Is it logical to still do that?
And, would he accept a significant part of the season in Utica if the team stays healthy?
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ESQ wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:57 am
micky107 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:20 pm .
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I’m still keeping an eye on the Stars as a potential destination for Loui Eriksson.

Could see something involving Cogliano who has 2 years at $3.25M per left and/or Comeau who also has 2 years remaining at $2.4M per
12:09 PM - 14 Jul 2019
That's a good deal for the canucks, if there's no retention or sweetener.

Assigning both players to the farm saves an extra $1.5ish for the next 2 years, $6 mil in year three.

At smaller cap hits and shorter length, they can also be traded with retention more easily.
Bury both in the minors and you save just over 2 mil in cap space - which is enough to re-sign Boeser and stay cap compliant - the benefit will come in 2 years when it will remove the full 5.7 off the books + Edlers 6 which should be enough for Petey.

Once a deal for Sutter is worked out, even if they retain 50%, that's another 2-4 mil the team can free up.
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micky107 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:22 am .
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Today is the deadline for RFA's to accept qualifying offers.
Brock Boeser obviously won't accept his Q-O of $874,125.
Discussions are still taking place between the #Canucks and Nikolay Goldobin.
6:15 AM - 15 Jul 2019
Of note>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>before our cap crunch, I said why not give Goldy some more time. Is it logical to still do that?
And, would he accept a significant part of the season in Utica if the team stays healthy?
Might have to use goldy as a sweetener to move Loui.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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SKYO wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:58 am
Might have to use goldy as a sweetener to move Loui.
Ideally we move LE without giving up any real assets. If it's Loui to OTT for a 7th, then fine. We both win. If we have to add a Goldy or some other project, I'd expect a pick to come back our way. Loui has value to cap floor team (as Doc as pointed out for the past couple of years) - so we shouldn't really have to sweeten the pot.

As we're moving the rebuild up this year and shooting for the playoffs, young assets will be harder to come by. I'm not a big fan of Goldy and think he's had ample time to prove himself (will another year really be needed?), but if he can get us something else down the road, then hang on to him. I'd rather see him go in a project-for-project trade.
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micky107 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:20 pm .
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I’m still keeping an eye on the Stars as a potential destination for Loui Eriksson.

Could see something involving Cogliano who has 2 years at $3.25M per left and/or Comeau who also has 2 years remaining at $2.4M per
12:09 PM - 14 Jul 2019
Satiar Shah is talking out his ass.

(it's straight speculation, not insider information)

No way does Dallas do this...
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Cornuck wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:18 pm
SKYO wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:58 am
Might have to use goldy as a sweetener to move Loui.
Ideally we move LE without giving up any real assets. If it's Loui to OTT for a 7th, then fine. We both win. If we have to add a Goldy or some other project, I'd expect a pick to come back our way. Loui has value to cap floor team (as Doc as pointed out for the past couple of years) - so we shouldn't really have to sweeten the pot.

As we're moving the rebuild up this year and shooting for the playoffs, young assets will be harder to come by. I'm not a big fan of Goldy and think he's had ample time to prove himself (will another year really be needed?), but if he can get us something else down the road, then hang on to him. I'd rather see him go in a project-for-project trade.
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Paying less in real dollar for a higher cap hit. It's like a 50% sale on cap hit. They still get a serviceable asset, who could turn his game around (in theory).
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