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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by The Brown Wizard » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:24 am

Alright weve seen 4 games now and i am seeing something that could be worthy of discussion.

Pettersson is obviously the target of tighter checking from teams (as expected) and he isn't breaking free. He doesnt have the time or space he had the first half of last season and he doesn't seem to have that extra gear to seperate from the coverage.

So...what are we looking at? Opinions?
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by dangler » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:28 am

The Brown Wizard wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:24 am
Alright weve seen 4 games now and i am seeing something that could be worthy of discussion.

Pettersson is obviously the target of tighter checking from teams (as expected) and he isn't breaking free. He doesnt have the time or space he had the first half of last season and he doesn't seem to have that extra gear to seperate from the coverage.

So...what are we looking at? Opinions?
Petey & Brock don't look %100 yet. Miller & a few more game's might help wake them up.
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by micky107 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:30 am

Pettersson has spoken of the extra attention he will receive from other teams since pre-season. Think he's mentioned what he'll have to do
on several occasions. In my opinion, he's talking himself into a sophomore slump.
There isn't anything wrong with his skating as I've seen him pour the coals to it a few times this year and he actually looks faster than last year.
He is easily good enough to create his own space even with 2 or 3 guys chasing him around but that is not the desired method.
Both Pete and Brock will be fine...
Something I might try once in a while, (if he continues to play with them), is get Miller taking the "occasional" face-offs in the offensive zone.
Might allow Pettersson some extra room on occasion. Screw-up the other team's coverage plans.
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by The Brown Wizard » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:36 am

dangler wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:28 am
The Brown Wizard wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:24 am
Alright weve seen 4 games now and i am seeing something that could be worthy of discussion.

Pettersson is obviously the target of tighter checking from teams (as expected) and he isn't breaking free. He doesnt have the time or space he had the first half of last season and he doesn't seem to have that extra gear to seperate from the coverage.

So...what are we looking at? Opinions?
Petey & Brock don't look %100 yet. Miller & a few more game's might help wake them up.
Patience oh brown one
They're producing statistically so theres no panic...just want to see his best where hes a step ahead of everyone like he has demonstrated previously.

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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by Hank » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:53 am

Yes, stats-wise they aren't doing too bad. But nobody would be saying this if the coaching staff had adjusted earlier on the PP.

Scoring one or two goals on those first 10 PP opportunities would have made a world of difference. Q's rocket is still the only one they've scored.
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by Reefer2 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:28 am

I see a team still working in the new guys.

EP is getting used to the opposing team concentrating on him and will get better.

I do not like Levio on the line he is on, how can a Green keep him there when 18,000 fans at the rink saw him fumble 2 glorious scoring chances without even getting a shot off. The PP needs to be changed up, Edler still seems to shot right at the defender pads but then I wanted the dude off the team for 5+ years so I am biased.

Markstrom has been great, freaking awesome and good to see.

Overall the team is more exciting to watch, especially without LE on the team.

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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by SKYO » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:00 pm

The Brown Wizard wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:24 am
Alright weve seen 4 games now and i am seeing something that could be worthy of discussion.

Pettersson is obviously the target of tighter checking from teams (as expected) and he isn't breaking free. He doesnt have the time or space he had the first half of last season and he doesn't seem to have that extra gear to seperate from the coverage.

So...what are we looking at? Opinions?
Petey will adjust, he just needed that shootout goal to get that swagger back.

Hey as long as the defense is concentrating on him and Boeser, the other lines get a bit more space to score.

Petey just has to be like Patrick Kane, as when Kane see's a bit of space a few times a game he capitalizes on it almost 80% of the time that's how the superstars do it, make some nice plays all game but held scoreless, however in those rare moments a defense makes a mistake boom Kane goes insane and scores or sets up a player to tap it in - how the elite players average a point+ a game.

EP just adapting to being the franchises best player.
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by Hockey Widow » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:14 pm

Secondary scoring is the answer. A true top six forces the opposition to adjust. If they shut down Pettersson and our other top six are producing they will eventually have to ease up on him. I’m not worried yet.
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:43 pm

Still need another top 6 winger. I like Miller on the top line. Hoping Podkozlin can be that guy...eventually, but until then, it's going to be a revolving door of wingers for BO. I like Ferland on the 3rd line. Our bottom seems to be figuring it out, it will get interesting when Roussel and Motte are ready for duty. The likes of Virtanen, Leivo and Schaller better be aware of the incoming players off of IR. Those 3 strike me as the current bubble players. Eriksson fuck off. Gaudette has made the team IMO
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by ESQ » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:55 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:14 pm
Secondary scoring is the answer. A true top six forces the opposition to adjust. If they shut down Pettersson and our other top six are producing they will eventually have to ease up on him. I’m not worried yet.
Exactly. Pearson has been flying out there, and he's getting a lot of space.

Pettersson is also neutralizing the opposing top line. So fixing the PP should get Petey going offensively, while the second line is cooking and the opposing team's top line is trying to contain Elias.

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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by Strangelove » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:32 pm

The Brown Wizard wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:24 am
Alright weve seen 4 games now and i am seeing something that could be worthy of discussion.

Pettersson is obviously the target of tighter checking from teams (as expected) and he isn't breaking free. He doesnt have the time or space he had the first half of last season and he doesn't seem to have that extra gear to seperate from the coverage.

So...what are we looking at? Opinions?
Sometimes high-IQ players fall into the trap of overthinking, could that be what's happening here?
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by dangler » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:20 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:32 pm
The Brown Wizard wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:24 am
Alright weve seen 4 games now and i am seeing something that could be worthy of discussion.

Pettersson is obviously the target of tighter checking from teams (as expected) and he isn't breaking free. He doesnt have the time or space he had the first half of last season and he doesn't seem to have that extra gear to seperate from the coverage.

So...what are we looking at? Opinions?
Sometimes high-IQ players fall into the trap of overthinking, could that be what's happening here?
+1,let's see where we're at in 10 - 20 games
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by The Brown Wizard » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:27 pm

dangler wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:20 pm

+1,let's see where we're at in 10 - 20 games
Seems to be how last season ended for him.

So can a team neutralize a player like EP so easily with scouting tape/positioning and/or blanket coverage?

Its one of the more interesting atory lines early this season along with how fan-fuckin-tastic Marky is playing. For me thats a giant relief
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by Hank » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:05 pm

If pundits and hockey people, other teams already consider Pettersson as a top-10 center in the league, of course he's going to get the extra attention and tough matchups.

I'm not surprised that he hasn't come flying out of the gate but last year's start shouldn't be the expected norm from now on either. Him and Brock looked out of sync in the preseason and in the Edmonton game. If they would have adjusted the PP in Calgary, EP40 might be PPG right now.

The last two home games they have looked much better. With Q's progress and Miller on the first line, some improvement on the PP... I'm not worried. He's too good and too driven to not be able to adapt.
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Re: Canucks News n Notes 2019-2020

Post by Madcombinepilot » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:32 pm

Did Green try Shotgun with Pearson and Bo a couple times last night, or was that just people extending shifts or whatnot?


I would like to see that experiment for a couple games
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