Re: 2018-2019 Playoffs. Round three
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:28 am
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Just ask 2006 Todd Bertuzzi and JovoIsland Nucklehead wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:32 am
So he was the worst superstar on a team made up of superstars. Just making a Canadian Olympic team in a best on best scenario means your pretty fucking good.
Anyone who would tar Thornton's career with the "accomplished little" brush is probably a person that would still say that Marcel Dionne is one of the all-time greats. Just sayin.....Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:23 amAll fair and great points. He certainly doesn’t have the class of Iginla or the twins.Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:20 amFor me Blob its playing with humility. Name any of the greats. The majority have played the game with humility. Thornton has always come across as an arrogant prick. But I do agree he has a ton of accomplishments and should be a first ballot hall of fame. Not liking him does not take away from knowing he has been a great player, dominant for many years. He's earned the right to go to the hall of fame, have his number retired etc. I just don't want him to win a Cup.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 10:04 am Like him or lump him he’s #14 in all time scoring. I’d say he’s accomplished a fair bit more than very little.
He’s a guaranteed first ballot hall of famer. I guess guys like the twins and Iginla have accomplished very little by those lofty standards.
I still don't like him.
What about if Ray Bourque hadn’t won a cup with an all star Avalanche team?ESQ wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 9:23 amJust ask 2006 Todd Bertuzzi and JovoIsland Nucklehead wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:32 am
So he was the worst superstar on a team made up of superstars. Just making a Canadian Olympic team in a best on best scenario means your pretty fucking good.
For sure, Joe is the better individual player than either twin. He is/was a physical freak, with every tool in the box (except a heavy shot).
Had the twins won a cup, they'd have a greater legacy than No-Show Joe. Had Joe won a cup, he'd have cemented his legacy as one of the all-time greats.
But he didn't, and he'll likely finish his career with the same playoffs PPG as the Sedins. That's fine by me - great individual player, but he always left you feeling like he had more to offer in crunch time.
What are you... a mind-reader now Danny?Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:57 amWhat does he have to do with ehlers and nylander??? Are those 2 the benchmark for playoff suckitude now or something? Or is this a subconscious attempt to validate benning picking virtanen thus making him a better manager than gillis?
Who did he get a rise out of?Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:16 pmWhat are you... a mind-reader now Danny?Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:57 amWhat does he have to do with ehlers and nylander??? Are those 2 the benchmark for playoff suckitude now or something? Or is this a subconscious attempt to validate benning picking virtanen thus making him a better manager than gillis?
Love how the Dude doesn't even have to mention EXGMMG anymore to get a rise out of folks.
Really?
No, you're irritated.
Ray won a Cup with an all-star Avalanche team playing 28:30/night at age 40. For 20 years prior to that he was playing for a middling Boston team, where he often lead the team - in scoring - as a defenceman. He also finished with more points - as a defenceman - than Joe, and a better playoff PPG than Joe.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:47 am
What about if Ray Bourque hadn’t won a cup with an all star Avalanche team?
Agree to disagree.... zero common ground hereESQ wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:53 pmRay won a Cup with an all-star Avalanche team playing 28:30/night at age 40. For 20 years prior to that he was playing for a middling Boston team, where he often lead the team - in scoring - as a defenceman. He also finished with more points - as a defenceman - than Joe, and a better playoff PPG than Joe.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:47 am
What about if Ray Bourque hadn’t won a cup with an all star Avalanche team?
I would say Joe's legacy has been hurt by playing on stacked , "all star" Sharks teams and never getting it done.
Are YOU defending the dude or subconsciously defending your own line in the sand about benning as well?Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:16 pmWhat are you... a mind-reader now Danny?Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:57 amWhat does he have to do with ehlers and nylander??? Are those 2 the benchmark for playoff suckitude now or something? Or is this a subconscious attempt to validate benning picking virtanen thus making him a better manager than gillis?
Love how the Dude doesn't even have to mention EXGMMG anymore to get a rise out of folks.