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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:42 pm If this team won the first pick and traded down just to get rid of some contract blunders, I’d be pretty pissed.
:lol: facts.

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Roussel stays as he or Beags likely get taken by Seattle in 2021.
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I doubt Beagle or Roussel will be targets of Seattle. Both of them barely looked like NHL players this year. They will probably take a younger guy like Juolevi, Lind or maybe MacEwen.
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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:48 pm I doubt Beagle or Roussel will be targets of Seattle. Both of them barely looked like NHL players this year. They will probably take a younger guy like Juolevi, Lind or maybe MacEwen.
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To say they 'barely looked' like NHL players is a bit of a stretch. Lay off the weed and booze. You simple need to remember a couple yeats ago... Gaunce, Etem, Vey, etc.. THEY were barely NHL players!!

I do agree we will lose someone with more skill than one of our 4th line players, but make no mistake, they only guy on thiis team that isn't an NHL player is Loui.
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Madcombinepilot wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:08 am
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:48 pm I doubt Beagle or Roussel will be targets of Seattle. Both of them barely looked like NHL players this year. They will probably take a younger guy like Juolevi, Lind or maybe MacEwen.
Holy flippers blob...

To say they 'barely looked' like NHL players is a bit of a stretch. Lay off the weed and booze. You simple need to remember a couple yeats ago... Gaunce, Etem, Vey, etc.. THEY were barely NHL players!!

I do agree we will lose someone with more skill than one of our 4th line players, but make no mistake, they only guy on thiis team that isn't an NHL player is Loui.
They were more effective than Gaunce, Etem and Vey. I won’t argue that. But Beagle is 35 now and he looked very slow last year. Roussel, probably due to the injury also looked slow. I shudder to think how these guys will look after another 80 + games. Both those contracts were a year or two too long.
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Madcombinepilot wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:08 am
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:48 pm I doubt Beagle or Roussel will be targets of Seattle. Both of them barely looked like NHL players this year. They will probably take a younger guy like Juolevi, Lind or maybe MacEwen.
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To say they 'barely looked' like NHL players is a bit of a stretch. Lay off the weed and booze
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Roussel definitely had issues with his skating but I'd rather see how he looks after this extended break. Before the injury he was a half decent 4th line option

I wonder if I'm in the minority about Beagle but i like what he brings. He doesnt hurt the team and is always there sticking up for teammates. He is one of those heart and soul vets that winners always have on their rosters.

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Roussel looked shockingly bad after coming back from injury, let’s hope it was due to the time off from the injury
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:39 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:08 am
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:48 pm I doubt Beagle or Roussel will be targets of Seattle. Both of them barely looked like NHL players this year. They will probably take a younger guy like Juolevi, Lind or maybe MacEwen.
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To say they 'barely looked' like NHL players is a bit of a stretch. Lay off the weed and booze
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You have basically agreed with me. “Beagle gets skates on pucks”

Roussel stunk after his first six or seven games.

Maybe these guys have another good year in them. Maybe. But they both sucked last year and neither will be a target of Seattle in all likelihood.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:54 am Roussel looked shockingly bad after coming back from injury, let’s hope it was due to the time off from the injury
He had some sort of spiral break in his leg man. Thats like 18 months or more to recover from...if he even can return to normal
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Canucks haven't had much luck with enforcers, for a myriad of reasons, for a very long time. Nothing has really worked out very well.

Even the latest run to the cup team in 2011 was not what I'd call a team with enough enforcement. Showed at exactly the worst time too.

Sure; it's a bit passe but we could do with something a little more frightening then just Rousell, Benn and Myers.

Ferland aint gonna be it. Horvat is too valuable to spend majors in the box, though I wouldn't mind three or so a year.

Eddy is still the scariest cause you just never know when he'll lay someone out.

Marky, well he has to stay in the net. Can tell he wants to...

Tryamkin has to come in and be that guy. The maybe Pod can too. Joulevi? Never really been his game. Woo would--( big step ).

Maybe Per had something when he talked about Rodin. Be cheap...
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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:31 am
You have basically agreed with me. “Beagle gets skates on pucks”
:lol: True. Greener loves him for that and holds him in regard because of that. Otherwise he can’t do fuck all else. I have never seen or more terrible puck handler than Beagle
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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:42 pm If this team won the first pick and traded down just to get rid of some contract blunders, I’d be pretty pissed.
Where the fuck did that come from? :lol:
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Micky wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:42 am Canucks haven't had much luck with enforcers, for a myriad of reasons, for a very long time. Nothing has really worked out very well.

Even the latest run to the cup team in 2011 was not what I'd call a team with enough enforcement. Showed at exactly the worst time too.

Sure; it's a bit passe but we could do with something a little more frightening then just Rousell, Benn and Myers.

Ferland aint gonna be it. Horvat is too valuable to spend majors in the box, though I wouldn't mind three or so a year.

Eddy is still the scariest cause you just never know when he'll lay someone out.

Marky, well he has to stay in the net. Can tell he wants to...

Tryamkin has to come in and be that guy. The maybe Pod can too. Joulevi? Never really been his game. Woo would--( big step ).

Maybe Per had something when he talked about Rodin. Be cheap...
That's it! Rodin can be our designated goon! :lol:
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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:32 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:08 am
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:48 pm I doubt Beagle or Roussel will be targets of Seattle. Both of them barely looked like NHL players this year. They will probably take a younger guy like Juolevi, Lind or maybe MacEwen.
Holy flippers blob...

To say they 'barely looked' like NHL players is a bit of a stretch. Lay off the weed and booze. You simple need to remember a couple yeats ago... Gaunce, Etem, Vey, etc.. THEY were barely NHL players!!

I do agree we will lose someone with more skill than one of our 4th line players, but make no mistake, they only guy on thiis team that isn't an NHL player is Loui.
They were more effective than Gaunce, Etem and Vey. I won’t argue that. But Beagle is 35 now and he looked very slow last year. Roussel, probably due to the injury also looked slow. I shudder to think how these guys will look after another 80 + games. Both those contracts were a year or two too long.
I agree that the contracts on those guys were all a year too long, but don't compare how they are today with 'how they could look' in 2 years.. that's simply the reverse logic of the mouth breathers at the other site.
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And as to the 'not much luck with enforcers', it's because we can't seem to develop our own young ones, and always overpay for someone's old used one.

MacEwen is the first good grinder we have developed for the bottom pairing in years.

It's ok to have a veteran grinder down there to anchor the bottom pairings, but w have had to pay for 3 or 4 of them for the last 5,6?years and that kills the cap.

Gotta keep those guys on near to entry level contracts.
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