2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Hank » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Good to have you here talking hockey, nuckster (...and man-b00bs :look:)
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Strangelove » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:44 pm

nuckster wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:11 am
Anyways, the main point or question i wish to put forward here has to do with the viability of Benning actually falling back in the draft this year- does it make sense?
Jimmy said he is looking at all possibilities, including moving up or down in the draft.

If the guy he hoped might fall to him at 10th is gone, his attention shifts that other guy(s).

If he feels that other guy (or one of the other guys?) should be available at say #15

... then he pulls the trigger on one of the deals on the table to drop back.

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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by nuckster » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:03 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:44 pm
nuckster wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:11 am
Anyways, the main point or question i wish to put forward here has to do with the viability of Benning actually falling back in the draft this year- does it make sense?
Jimmy said he is looking at all possibilities, including moving up or down in the draft.

If the guy he hoped might fall to him at 10th is gone, his attention shifts that other guy(s).

If he feels that other guy (or one of the other guys?) should be available at say #15

... then he pulls the trigger on one of the deals on the table to drop back.

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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:11 am

I get the sense that ole Jimbro is obsessing with the 12 to 30 tier and is jumping at the bits to trade back. This would not go over well with the home crowd. Just pick the best player available ffs. Don’t fucking water down quality for quantity (another 2nd round pick for moving back to 19th to draft Thomas Harley or something). Don’t over think it Jimbro
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by ESQ » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:31 am

nuckster wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:11 am
Anyways, the main point or question i wish to put forward here has to do with the viability of Benning actually falling back in the draft this year- does it make sense?
If you think of the last few years picking in the top 6, we've had teams above us make surprising, off-the-board picks. By the time you get to 10, there's likely going to have been 2-3 off the board picks, which means I expect there will be 2-3 "consensus top 10" picks still available at 10.

If a deal happens, it'll have to be on the draft floor, because I doubt anybody has a clear sense of who's going to be left on the board after #2. I hope if there's a move it's a trade down, because I could see mid-round picks going crazy if Their Guy is still available.

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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:42 am

Every year in the lottery zone there are surprises. The top 10 after Hughes and Kakko is impossible to predict. Comes down to each teams needs and likes and whatever their lists are. Lists produced by Button, mock drafts are whatever. My curuousity is who will be reached for ahead of us (Caulfield and Broberg) and who will fall to us (Podkolzin, Dach, Cozens, Turcotte)

After Hughes and Kakko I only see Boldy, Byram and Zegras not being there when we pick at 10. The rest all have the potential to fall to 10.

Would not be surprised if a team desperate for goaltending like the Oilers reach for Knight, especially after seeing how important of a roll Binnington and Rask played in this year’s Stanley Cup
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:48 am

To be honest I’d rather see Benning move up from our 2nd round pick than move back with our first round pick. There are some intersting prospects expected to go late first early second round. How he does that, not sure, offer up the 3rd round pick?
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:51 am

Turcotte isn’t getting past 5.
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:54 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
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Turcotte isn’t getting past 5.
Probably right

So after Zegras, Boldy, Byram and Turcotte. The rest could all be available depending on how it goes down ahead of us
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:01 am

Potential fallers in top 10

Podkozlin (Russian factor)
Dach
Cozens
Krebs (Achilles)

Potential risers into the top 10

Caulfield
Broberg
Knight

Seems to me of late that Broberg is separating himself from Soderstrom. I guess his size with the speed is killing it
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by micky107 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:42 am

Broberg was one of the players Benning looked into on his trip to Sweden.
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There are some downsides which THIS new,(only 14 hours old,link tries to point out.
Keep in mind, it's all opinion, save what we can see for ourselves.
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by The Brown Wizard » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:17 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:01 am
Potential fallers in top 10

Podkozlin (Russian factor)
Dach
Cozens
Krebs (Achilles)

Potential risers into the top 10

Caulfield
Broberg
Knight

Seems to me of late that Broberg is separating himself from Soderstrom. I guess his size with the speed is killing it
Its safe to say we will be adding a significant asset at 10 OA then.

This is where Benning shines. I am positive he picks a damn good prospect
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by micky107 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:21 pm

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Vasili Podkolzin---------------

Talent for sure, but it would come with risk and whoever selects him will have to WAIT two years for his services in North America...
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:00 pm

micky107 wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:21 pm
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Vasili Podkolzin---------------

Talent for sure, but it would come with risk and whoever selects him will have to WAIT two years for his services in North America...
Aside from Kakko and maybe Hughes. I’m not seeing a lot of the 2019’ers who will be making an impact within two years past their draft. Let him cook in the K for 2
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Re: 2019 NHL ENTRY DRAFT - Vancouver

Post by The Brown Wizard » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:09 pm

He has suprisingly poor offensive stats for his talent level. I'm passing on the pod
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