Seattle Expansion/Canucks players
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:14 pm
so, looking at the lineup, and guessing into the future, a few things can be planned for. Since there was no call for an expansion draft before the July 1/2018, I simply cant see there being a draft in 2019. IMO, soonest it could be is 2020 (if its announced next spring)
Baertshi**- Horvat** - Boeser**
Goldobin** - Petterson - Virtanen**
Grandlund** - Sutter** - Erickson**
Schaller88 - Beagle** - Rousell**
Gagne** - Liepsic**
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Gadovich - Gaudette - Lind
Archibald - Dahlen - Jasek
Carcone - Gaunce - Boucher
McEwan - Laplante - Motte
Kero - Zuikinov - Palmu
Edler** - Tanev**
Gudbrabdson** - Stetcher**
Del Zotto** - Pouliot**
Hutton**
Biega**
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Joulevi - Brisbois
Hughes - Chatfield
Sautner - McEnney
Woo
Markstrom**
Nilsson**
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Demko
DiPetro
Bachman
Gartieg
Players with ** need (or will need) to be protected in 2020
Above the --- is the Canucks, and below is Utica (not really projecting lineups, just remembering all the players) we are going to be pretty bulletproof come expansion time. It might look bad at first glance with everyone except Petterson needing protecting, but if we are going forward on the premise that the rules regarding protected players are the same, we are actually in pretty good shape contract wise.
This year, we HAVE to move out a body (at least 1) before the opening of the season. Too many roster players (not discussing the talent of the players, just stating the obvious).
On forward, IMO, that player is Gagne. With the July 1st grit added, and the resigning of Grandlund, Gagne is the only real choice. Having Liepsic as the 13th forward is not ideal, but we still really don't know what we have in Liepsic (or what his potential is), but we know exactly what Gagne is all about. This reduces a player anyone would even considering protecting.
We are protecting Baertschi, Horvat and Boeser. The only thing that could change is if we find (or develop) an improvement on Baertschi in the next 18 months.
Goldobin is having a “show me” year. Its make or break for Gobby on this team this year. Make and we protect him, Break and we move him for a bag of pucks. Never know, Gobby could be the improvement on Baertschi..
Virtanen is protected. While in a similar boat to Goldobin, if he keeps showing improvement with the flashes of what we all hope him to be, we can’t take the risk of not protecting him (if Benning trades him early, or loses him in expansion and he turns into the next Bertuzzi, the media will lynch him. If Virtanen doesn’t pan out, he is simply a failed prosepect)
Grandlund (with his versatility, and shiny new CHEAP contract) is a 2nd or 3rd round pick at the trade deadline this year. Every team needs his kind of player at his kind of cost as injury insurance going into the playoffs. I’ll be amazed if he is here at the end of the year.
Sutter – what a controversial player in the media and fans.. He takes the tough defence and gets crapped on when deployed on offence.. I think it’s the extra $500k on his contract that make most people love or hate him. But, depending on the development of Gaudette and Dahlen, depends if we expose or protect him. We will need an elite shut down center. He fits the bill right now, and the way salaries are trending, he will fit the bill for the next year or two.
Ericksson is exposed. This is not a democracy or a debate
Liepsic is an enigma. If he shows the right stuff, we have the ability to protect him. I liked his puck pursuit last year, but it was such a small sample size, he really needs to show us what he has for a year.
4th line grinders are always available. If we lose one of Schaller, Beagle, or Rousel on the expansion, and it harms us in terms of our playoff chances, we are in more trouble than ever as a franchise. If we want to protect one of them because of the intangibles they bring to the team, we can.
Defence is a different beast.
Hutton is prime to be squeezed out as he is in the coaches doghouse already, and doesn't seem to mesh under the system we are playing (not sure if he sucks, peaked, is uninterested, bad teammate, whatever, don't really care. It is what it is). He is the easiest to move.
Edler – The old man. I hope he is traded (no surprise, coming from me ). By the time 2020 comes around and we are a competitive team, he is too old. I would like to see the asset for him sooner than later. He is simply to fragile. If he could stay healthy, and play like he does at the worlds, I could change my mind. But its so frustrating to watch him here, opposed to the big ice in Europe..
Tanev. This team will need a shut down defender, and Tanev is one of the best. He is also fragile. One of Tanev or Edler needs to be moved for youth, and the other will probably be resigned and under a contract that needs to be protected. Just please don’t send the other to Toronto.
Gudbrandson – Like Goldobin, he is about to have a Show Me year. He HAS to stay healthy. I like his size, leadership, grit. Need those things with the smaller guys like Hughes coming up. I want him to have a great year to force us to sign and protect him.
MDZ and Pouliot - Contracts will expire, so we can resign them or not. depending on how they play. Won’t cost us anything to protect them.
Tryamkin – While not here, if he comes back to the NHL, he will need to be protected. So he is protected, for the same reasons as Virtanen.
Stetcher – hardest decision I think we will have. He needs to have a spectacular season or will be compressed out (hopefully) by the likes of Hughes and Joulevi. If he stays, he still needs to outplay Gudbrandson and/or one of Tanev or Edler (whomever is still here will be under contract).. I just don’t really see that happening, so I see him as here until he is exposed.
Biega is exposed, and nobody takes him
For the goalies, Ideally, Nilsson is also moved for a mid to late pick (I would have said late pick, but upgraded it after his showing at the worlds). Demko needs to be brought up this year, and we are only allowed to protect 1 goalie. That would be Markstrom. This gives us the ability to give Demko the NHL games we know he needs. If Nilsson isn't moved, and clears waivers, having him in Utica with Dipetro is not the end of the world. We have the cap space for that. Either way, Nilssons contract is also expired before the draft, so no big deal. If Markstrom and Nilsson are both moved and by 2020 we are riding Demko and Diepetro, that’s why we have Bachmans exposable contract (we have to expose a goalie)
So, out of our current lineup, as we inject the youth like Joulevi, Hughes, Gaudette, Lind, etc we should still have the room to sign 1-2 more UFA players or take a 'need to protect' bad contract back on trade if we are trying to rape a team that's older
**edited for formating
Baertshi**- Horvat** - Boeser**
Goldobin** - Petterson - Virtanen**
Grandlund** - Sutter** - Erickson**
Schaller88 - Beagle** - Rousell**
Gagne** - Liepsic**
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Gadovich - Gaudette - Lind
Archibald - Dahlen - Jasek
Carcone - Gaunce - Boucher
McEwan - Laplante - Motte
Kero - Zuikinov - Palmu
Edler** - Tanev**
Gudbrabdson** - Stetcher**
Del Zotto** - Pouliot**
Hutton**
Biega**
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Joulevi - Brisbois
Hughes - Chatfield
Sautner - McEnney
Woo
Markstrom**
Nilsson**
------
Demko
DiPetro
Bachman
Gartieg
Players with ** need (or will need) to be protected in 2020
Above the --- is the Canucks, and below is Utica (not really projecting lineups, just remembering all the players) we are going to be pretty bulletproof come expansion time. It might look bad at first glance with everyone except Petterson needing protecting, but if we are going forward on the premise that the rules regarding protected players are the same, we are actually in pretty good shape contract wise.
This year, we HAVE to move out a body (at least 1) before the opening of the season. Too many roster players (not discussing the talent of the players, just stating the obvious).
On forward, IMO, that player is Gagne. With the July 1st grit added, and the resigning of Grandlund, Gagne is the only real choice. Having Liepsic as the 13th forward is not ideal, but we still really don't know what we have in Liepsic (or what his potential is), but we know exactly what Gagne is all about. This reduces a player anyone would even considering protecting.
We are protecting Baertschi, Horvat and Boeser. The only thing that could change is if we find (or develop) an improvement on Baertschi in the next 18 months.
Goldobin is having a “show me” year. Its make or break for Gobby on this team this year. Make and we protect him, Break and we move him for a bag of pucks. Never know, Gobby could be the improvement on Baertschi..
Virtanen is protected. While in a similar boat to Goldobin, if he keeps showing improvement with the flashes of what we all hope him to be, we can’t take the risk of not protecting him (if Benning trades him early, or loses him in expansion and he turns into the next Bertuzzi, the media will lynch him. If Virtanen doesn’t pan out, he is simply a failed prosepect)
Grandlund (with his versatility, and shiny new CHEAP contract) is a 2nd or 3rd round pick at the trade deadline this year. Every team needs his kind of player at his kind of cost as injury insurance going into the playoffs. I’ll be amazed if he is here at the end of the year.
Sutter – what a controversial player in the media and fans.. He takes the tough defence and gets crapped on when deployed on offence.. I think it’s the extra $500k on his contract that make most people love or hate him. But, depending on the development of Gaudette and Dahlen, depends if we expose or protect him. We will need an elite shut down center. He fits the bill right now, and the way salaries are trending, he will fit the bill for the next year or two.
Ericksson is exposed. This is not a democracy or a debate
Liepsic is an enigma. If he shows the right stuff, we have the ability to protect him. I liked his puck pursuit last year, but it was such a small sample size, he really needs to show us what he has for a year.
4th line grinders are always available. If we lose one of Schaller, Beagle, or Rousel on the expansion, and it harms us in terms of our playoff chances, we are in more trouble than ever as a franchise. If we want to protect one of them because of the intangibles they bring to the team, we can.
Defence is a different beast.
Hutton is prime to be squeezed out as he is in the coaches doghouse already, and doesn't seem to mesh under the system we are playing (not sure if he sucks, peaked, is uninterested, bad teammate, whatever, don't really care. It is what it is). He is the easiest to move.
Edler – The old man. I hope he is traded (no surprise, coming from me ). By the time 2020 comes around and we are a competitive team, he is too old. I would like to see the asset for him sooner than later. He is simply to fragile. If he could stay healthy, and play like he does at the worlds, I could change my mind. But its so frustrating to watch him here, opposed to the big ice in Europe..
Tanev. This team will need a shut down defender, and Tanev is one of the best. He is also fragile. One of Tanev or Edler needs to be moved for youth, and the other will probably be resigned and under a contract that needs to be protected. Just please don’t send the other to Toronto.
Gudbrandson – Like Goldobin, he is about to have a Show Me year. He HAS to stay healthy. I like his size, leadership, grit. Need those things with the smaller guys like Hughes coming up. I want him to have a great year to force us to sign and protect him.
MDZ and Pouliot - Contracts will expire, so we can resign them or not. depending on how they play. Won’t cost us anything to protect them.
Tryamkin – While not here, if he comes back to the NHL, he will need to be protected. So he is protected, for the same reasons as Virtanen.
Stetcher – hardest decision I think we will have. He needs to have a spectacular season or will be compressed out (hopefully) by the likes of Hughes and Joulevi. If he stays, he still needs to outplay Gudbrandson and/or one of Tanev or Edler (whomever is still here will be under contract).. I just don’t really see that happening, so I see him as here until he is exposed.
Biega is exposed, and nobody takes him
For the goalies, Ideally, Nilsson is also moved for a mid to late pick (I would have said late pick, but upgraded it after his showing at the worlds). Demko needs to be brought up this year, and we are only allowed to protect 1 goalie. That would be Markstrom. This gives us the ability to give Demko the NHL games we know he needs. If Nilsson isn't moved, and clears waivers, having him in Utica with Dipetro is not the end of the world. We have the cap space for that. Either way, Nilssons contract is also expired before the draft, so no big deal. If Markstrom and Nilsson are both moved and by 2020 we are riding Demko and Diepetro, that’s why we have Bachmans exposable contract (we have to expose a goalie)
So, out of our current lineup, as we inject the youth like Joulevi, Hughes, Gaudette, Lind, etc we should still have the room to sign 1-2 more UFA players or take a 'need to protect' bad contract back on trade if we are trying to rape a team that's older
**edited for formating