Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 18-19 Sponsored by SKYO

[Island Nucklehead]

Why keep a player who may be lucky to get 50 games in for the year?

Move him and move on, you can get what he provides at a cheaper rate and play 70+ games.

Some posters wondered why he was extended to a huge bloated contract before management had ever seen him play for the Canucks

Or why he deserved a huge bloated contract based on what he'd done to that point in his career.

[Carlyee]

OMG. If Benning did anything close to what bitchfurd is suggesting he’d be the first to rip Benning.

The time to take on bad contracts was a few years back. He should be trying to slash and burn as much garbage off of his cap as possible this summer.

Look at Vegas they can add impact players because they don’t hoard a bunch of garbage contracts.

Patches, Stone, Stastny all easily fit in.

Get rid of Sutter, Spooner, Eriksson ASAP. Yeah I know easier said then done.

Not Sutter yet, unless you can get fair market value. If he’s not completely broken, he should have a bounce back year next year, and they can play him on beagles wing as the shutdown line. Sutter is still an elite pker, and a great defender that when healthy can chip in goals. Selling him now would be dumb.

Based on what Butter brings to the team getting rid of him without retaining cap, even if we had to throw in a 5th and get only a 7th back, would be considered selling high.

100% wins the internet today. Not giving shutter away would be “dumb”. Keeping Sutter would be idiotic, since Gaudette is younger and cheaper.

[ESQ]

100% wins the internet today. Not giving shutter away would be “dumb”. Keeping Sutter would be idiotic, since Gaudette is younger and cheaper.

Well, is Sutter a better winger than any other bottom-6 (except Roussel, who played a top-6 role), plus with Gaudette this season, Bo still had to take more faceoffs than anyone in the league.

If Sutter's cap hit was an issue for this upcoming season, then sure it would be idiotic to keep him. But it's not.

There's zero chance Gaudette gets sent to the farm because of Sutter, and Benning has already confirmed that.

So I don't see the need to sell-low. His value will never be any lower, a 15-goal, 500 FOW with only 2 years will at least make him worth a 3rd. But there's no way his value goes down from what it currently is.

[Richardstroker69]

100% wins the internet today. Not giving shutter away would be “dumb”. Keeping Sutter would be idiotic, since Gaudette is younger and cheaper.

Well, is Sutter a better winger than any other bottom-6 (except Roussel, who played a top-6 role), plus with Gaudette this season, Bo still had to take more faceoffs than anyone in the league.

If Sutter's cap hit was an issue for this upcoming season, then sure it would be idiotic to keep him. But it's not.

There's zero chance Gaudette gets sent to the farm because of Sutter, and Benning has already confirmed that.

So I don't see the need to sell-low. His value will never be any lower, a 15-goal, 500 FOW with only 2 years will at least make him worth a 3rd. But there's no way his value goes down from what it currently is.

Thank you! And if there was a better option for that cap space for sure explore it, but the guy can play wing and is a really good bottom 6 player pker (if he can return to form). People need to stop with the either Sutter or Gaudette, there’s room for both on the roster.

[Blob Mckenzie]

It’s basically a bottom 9 after Bo Horvat

[Carlyee]

100% wins the internet today. Not giving shutter away would be “dumb”. Keeping Sutter would be idiotic, since Gaudette is younger and cheaper.

Well, is Sutter a better winger than any other bottom-6 (except Roussel, who played a top-6 role), plus with Gaudette this season, Bo still had to take more faceoffs than anyone in the league.

If Sutter's cap hit was an issue for this upcoming season, then sure it would be idiotic to keep him. But it's not.

There's zero chance Gaudette gets sent to the farm because of Sutter, and Benning has already confirmed that.

So I don't see the need to sell-low. His value will never be any lower, a 15-goal, 500 FOW with only 2 years will at least make him worth a 3rd. But there's no way his value goes down from what it currently is.

Thank you! And if there was a better option for that cap space for sure explore it, but the guy can play wing and is a really good bottom 6 player pker (if he can return to form). People need to stop with the either Sutter or Gaudette, there’s room for both on the roster.

1. He has never played wing.
2. He has never scored more than 40 points in a season. I can admit as a third liner this is probably ok.
3. His only good season in Vancouver he had 34 points but was -20.
4. He is a bandaid.
5. His trade value will not increase. He is what he is.
6. Other than winning face offs and occasionally creating turnovers he actually makes line-mates worse. Watch him. Having never played the wing combined with his lack of finish and playmaking ability will hurt Gaudette specifically stats wise
7. He has lost a step and is currently too slow to play on the third line.
8. He is too soft and expensive to play on the 4th line.
9. Just about anyone can kill penalties with the right system drilled into their heads. No need for Sutter.

[Hockey Widow]

Yes, he has played on the wing.

[Mickey107]

Sutter's claim to fame was all from some times he filled in for either Crosby or Malkin. Admirably, that is true.
At times, was a very good penalty killer for a team that was very much based on all offense.
But he looked so different then. He had a much better, faster skating stride. Much like Horvat's.
I can't confirm it but he seemed to weigh more then or simply was far more muscular.
Make no mistake though, when everyone on the Pens were healthy, he was 3rd or 4th line.
I will be honest; when Benning signed him, I thought it was a good move.
I would never have thought he would have turned into such a wispy, bony looking, somewhat arrogant, (just my opinion hearing him interviewed many times), fellow.
It is what it is and there's not much anyone can do now. He has very little value. Moving him could be too punishing to us in regards
to retention or an equally chronically slumping player back.

I would suggest giving his 'A' to Boeser and get him on board with specializing in penalty killing and fourth line duties.
And yes, I do consider a 4th line extremely important. Particularly with the team that has the worst schedule in hockey.

[Island Nucklehead]

Yes, he has played on the wing.

He may actually be better on the wing+faceoff guy. The less playmaking the guy has to do the better. His stick is where plays go to die.

Sutter's claim to fame ...

is his last name.

[SKYO]

Yes, he has played on the wing.

He may actually be better on the wing+faceoff guy. The less playmaking the guy has to do the better. His stick is where plays go to die.

Yeah unless some team overpays for Sutter keeping him around while Gaudette improves in the dot would be ok, the penalty kill vastly improves when both Sutter/Beags are playing. I agree though Sutter can't make plays/pass well, why Sutter should play RW while taking faceoffs.

Notice the best penalty killers are veterans? and not a lot of youngsters fare well defensively in the league right away, hence why most prospects need time to work on their "two-way game" after juniors/college/europe etc.

[Richardstroker69]

Yes, he has played on the wing.

He may actually be better on the wing+faceoff guy. The less playmaking the guy has to do the better. His stick is where plays go to die.

Sutter's claim to fame ...

is his last name.

I like him on the wing as a trigger man, he had a great shot don’t know if it’s still there or not.

[Richardstroker69]

100% wins the internet today. Not giving shutter away would be “dumb”. Keeping Sutter would be idiotic, since Gaudette is younger and cheaper.

Well, is Sutter a better winger than any other bottom-6 (except Roussel, who played a top-6 role), plus with Gaudette this season, Bo still had to take more faceoffs than anyone in the league.

If Sutter's cap hit was an issue for this upcoming season, then sure it would be idiotic to keep him. But it's not.

There's zero chance Gaudette gets sent to the farm because of Sutter, and Benning has already confirmed that.

So I don't see the need to sell-low. His value will never be any lower, a 15-goal, 500 FOW with only 2 years will at least make him worth a 3rd. But there's no way his value goes down from what it currently is.

Thank you! And if there was a better option for that cap space for sure explore it, but the guy can play wing and is a really good bottom 6 player pker (if he can return to form). People need to stop with the either Sutter or Gaudette, there’s room for both on the roster.

1. He has never played wing.
2. He has never scored more than 40 points in a season. I can admit as a third liner this is probably ok.
3. His only good season in Vancouver he had 34 points but was -20.
4. He is a bandaid.
5. His trade value will not increase. He is what he is.
6. Other than winning face offs and occasionally creating turnovers he actually makes line-mates worse. Watch him. Having never played the wing combined with his lack of finish and playmaking ability will hurt Gaudette specifically stats wise
7. He has lost a step and is currently too slow to play on the third line.
8. He is too soft and expensive to play on the 4th line.
9. Just about anyone can kill penalties with the right system drilled into their heads. No need for Sutter.

There is a lot of misinformation in this, he was glued to the sedins as a winger for quite awhile in his first year. He has a good shot so playing wing is a decent option. A fourth line of Sutter and beagle gives the team a very good defensive shutdown line to go along with Horvat’s and most likely won’t be a “fourth” line when it comes to minutes played. Now if he Can’t recover his skating and his injuries are too much fine get rid of him but a year ago his skating was fine and had a great season.

[Strangelove]

Why keep a player who may be lucky to get 50 games in for the year?

Move him and move on, you can get what he provides at a cheaper rate and play 70+ games.

Some posters wondered why he was extended to a huge bloated contract before management had ever seen him play for the Canucks

True, but Blob wasn't one of them.

Blob said many times Sutter was only overpaid by a few hundred thou...

[Strangelove]

100% wins the internet today. Not giving shutter away would be “dumb”. Keeping Sutter would be idiotic, since Gaudette is younger and cheaper.

Well, is Sutter a better winger than any other bottom-6 (except Roussel, who played a top-6 role), plus with Gaudette this season, Bo still had to take more faceoffs than anyone in the league.

If Sutter's cap hit was an issue for this upcoming season, then sure it would be idiotic to keep him. But it's not.

There's zero chance Gaudette gets sent to the farm because of Sutter, and Benning has already confirmed that.

So I don't see the need to sell-low. His value will never be any lower, a 15-goal, 500 FOW with only 2 years will at least make him worth a 3rd. But there's no way his value goes down from what it currently is.

Thank you! And if there was a better option for that cap space for sure explore it, but the guy can play wing and is a really good bottom 6 player pker (if he can return to form). People need to stop with the either Sutter or Gaudette, there’s room for both on the roster.

1. He has never played wing.
2. He has never scored more than 40 points in a season. I can admit as a third liner this is probably ok.
3. His only good season in Vancouver he had 34 points but was -20.
4. He is a bandaid.
5. His trade value will not increase. He is what he is.
6. Other than winning face offs and occasionally creating turnovers he actually makes line-mates worse. Watch him. Having never played the wing combined with his lack of finish and playmaking ability will hurt Gaudette specifically stats wise
7. He has lost a step and is currently too slow to play on the third line.
8. He is too soft and expensive to play on the 4th line.
9. Just about anyone can kill penalties with the right system drilled into their heads. No need for Sutter.

There is a lot of misinformation in this, he was glued to the sedins as a winger for quite awhile in his first year. He has a good shot so playing wing is a decent option. A fourth line of Sutter and beagle gives the team a very good defensive shutdown line to go along with Horvat’s and most likely won’t be a “fourth” line when it comes to minutes played. Now if he Can’t recover his skating and his injuries are too much fine get rid of him but a year ago his skating was fine and had a great season.

Good posting Dickie.

[SKYO]

Yes I know everyone wants to trade eriksson,sutter etc but those will be difficult.

So the type of 'hockey deals' Benning should try to emulate is:

hamilton, ferland, fox
for
hanifin, lindholm

galchenyuk for domi

rask for niederreiter

schenn, simmonds for m richards

& try to get either an in-prime top 6 scorer or a top 4 D right shot QB..

Our trade chips that have value (younger, good contracts, have upside & have some proven NHL experience):

Hutton, Virtanen, Stecher and Gaudette.