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Richardstroker69 wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:48 pm
micky107 wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:38 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:30 pm
micky107 wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:04 pm Want a rumor? Blackhawks interested in Gagne....................
https://670thescore.radio.com/zawaski-s ... it-canucks
Didn’t hw say something about this a while ago?
Any time I hear something connecting the Hawks and Canucks, I get nervous.
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I haven’t watched seabrook, would he be a decent partner for Hughes or is he done? With the way Tanev is playing this year I can’t see him being a bunch worse, he brings a little more truculence.
What I've seen is he's a shadow of his former self.

More intriguing might be taking duncan keith in some sort of deal. He has a hit of 5.5 through 2023 and is more likely to be still contributing at the end of the 5 yrs
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Seabrook is awful, saw his demise coming from a long time ago, when they gave him that ridiculous contract.
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(few pages back) Yeah I wish we traded the Sedins last season TDD, was nice to see them play their entire career with the one team Canucks, but moving them at the trade deadline for multiple picks/prospects would have been a boon to the franchise.

In any case, it's why I think the team should move Edler (UFA) by this trade deadline, I think management has been pondering about this for awhile, and now the team can do it by the TDD, as soon the squad will have Hughes, Juolevi and possibly Tryamkin all LD to add to Ben Hutton. MDZ is gone after this season and Pouliot isn't making a case to stay.

*Plus Edler already has the franchise dman leader in points now, so he'll have that milestone already before he moves on.
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Alex Edler should accept almost any team imo to waive to if he really wanted to help the team, and for him to not be like Dan Hamhuis and hum and haw about where to accept, as seen doesn't matter, as that few months with another team goes by quick into the playoffs, then July 1st UFA he can plan his next long term move.

I believe the Winnipeg Jets could use him the most, but a lot of contenders can utilize his skill set.
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I'll be surprised if Edler does not retire a Canuck.
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It might have helped if Hamhuis was asked a bit sooner than a couple says before the deadline. if they weren’t going to trade him they should have brought him back.
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micky107 wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:21 pm I'll be surprised if Edler does not retire a Canuck.
He’s still a decent middle pairing guy. They already said they aren’t trading Tanev. Gudbranson isn’t likely to be moved. May as well get the band back together for next season I guess
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:39 pm It might have helped if Hamhuis was asked a bit sooner than a couple says before the deadline. if they weren’t going to trade him they should have brought him back.
He played like shit early in the season, only returned from injury shortly before the deadline and only then picked up his game. Your revisionist history is tiresome.

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"The no-movement clause is something we earned and paid for and negotiated." - Dan Hamhuis
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Topper wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:51 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:39 pm It might have helped if Hamhuis was asked a bit sooner than a couple says before the deadline. if they weren’t going to trade him they should have brought him back.
He played like shit early in the season, only returned from injury shortly before the deadline and only then picked up his game. Your revisionist history is tiresome.

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Yawn.... fart. He was a top pairing d man most of his career and the whole team looked like garbage most of that year. He has played well since leaving here. I doubt that a poor stretc of play and then a busted face completely shit canned ten years of stellar play. He was chosen as a top 8 d man on Team Canada two years previous. Yeah 20 games out of 1000 just totally devalued the guy. :lol:

He would still be the fourth best d man on this team at worst. He’s a damn site better than Erik Gudbranson
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:00 pm "The no-movement clause is something we earned and paid for and negotiated." - Dan Hamhuis
Totally but a smart GM would have asked him sooner and if it was a no go then fine. See if can re-sign him July 1. The numbskull here waited until the 11th hour and made a dog and pony show out of it.
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Agree with you Blob about the Hamhuis fiasco. I like a lot of things that Benning has done; but, he botched trading Hamhuis by not having earlier discussions with him about the possibility of a trade. This whole thing about not having discussions with guys about the possibility of waiving their NTC or NMC because a player has earned it has always bugged me. They have earned the right not to approve of the trade; but, a decent GM should be having ongoing discussions with his players about where they fit for the team going forward and whether the GM can help them get to a team they like if they are no longer viewed as being in the teams plans.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:04 pm
Strangelove wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:00 pm "The no-movement clause is something we earned and paid for and negotiated." - Dan Hamhuis
Totally but a smart GM would have asked him sooner and if it was a no go then fine. See if can re-sign him July 1. The numbskull here waited until the 11th hour and made a dog and pony show out of it.
Nah you don't ask a player about waiving a NTC early on in the season, because if you don't trade him as the team is in playoff contention, it's basically a ruined relationship.

Why put a player in worried situation for nothing all season? you only ask a player to waive his NTC when the franchise is ready to move on from their services.

You don't want a bad reputation of mistreating your players especially long term players 5+ years etc on your team.
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What a crock of shit. You ask the guy a few weeks before the deadline not a couple of days before and then put pressure on him. You have a conversation with the guy and ask him if he would waive and if so where.

If he says no, leave it alone. You don’t try and bully the guy out mid season. Asking a question wouldn’t poison any relationship or cause the guy to fall apart and be in “a worried situation”. I never said to ask him early in the year, just a couple weeks earlier than the shitstorm they created with Hamhuis.
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I agree that you don't ask a guy to move on at the beginning of the season. However, Hamhuis was going to be a free agent at the end of the season and the media kept asking about his status as a trade deadline candidate from Christmas on. Hamhuis even went public to tell the Canucks that he wanted to stay and would take a discount. As a courtesy to Hamhuis who had been great team player, Benning should have been having discussions with him about: how much he would be looking at to stay; where the Canucks viewed him ie as a third line D or would not resign him in the summer; and whether he would be interested in Benning trying to move him at the deadline to a desired team for the playoffs. The way the Canucks handled it embarrassed the team and Hamhuis. After all that, my recollection is that the Canucks did not try to resign him in the summer. It was early on for Benning and while I think he is a great drafter, I also think he is not the best communicator. Hopefully he learned from the experience; but, I thought it was poor form.
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Hey Blob, looks like we were both writing at the same time. Agree with what you said. Cheers
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