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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by Chef Boi RD » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:12 am

Keep Edler, hes the locker rooms Elder statesman like Chara is to the Bruins. Well liked in the room but more importantly is an example of professionalism, dedication, preparation, discipline etc. The less you have of that presence in the room the more the kids are getting all Edmonton Taylor Hall on ya
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by Meds » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:32 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:12 am
Keep Edler, hes the locker rooms Elder statesman like Chara is to the Bruins. Well liked in the room but more importantly is an example of professionalism, dedication, preparation, discipline etc. The less you have of that presence in the room the more the kids are getting all Edmonton Taylor Hall on ya
I don't think anyone is suggesting they would rather see Edler walk, they just don't want Jimbo to go all Sutter Stupid with the contract negotiation.

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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by Tciso » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:40 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
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I was thinking 14m over 2 years, or 19m over 3 with NMC for first 2 and NTC for final year. Something along those lines. Edler has to realize that for the good of the franchise, he needs to be exposed for the expansion draft. Perhaps go as high as 21m over 3, with the movement protection listed above?
Problem is that trade protection expires June 30th. So if he has a 3-4 year deal and the second year has a NMC he needs to be protected because it is not an expiring contract. So if he wants more than two years it’s a NTC after year one.

His fear obviously is that Seattle would select him. Edler feels he has at least 4 more years and wants that final contract with the security of not having to move. We can’t promise to re-sign him after the expansion draft, it’s unrealistic and he knows it. His play could deteriorate, he could be injured, Benning could be gone, he could just not fit moving forward.

As the summer moves along he and his wife will become more comfortable with the idea of moving on. If someone offers 3-4 years at the coin he wants with a full NMC he should take it.
Edler's other problem stems from no other GM wanting to give him 3 years with a NMC either. Edler's agent should realize that the Canucks will re-sign Edler in 2 years, if he still has game. And right now, we can over-pay him for the next 2 years. Once the emotions are removed, it seems pretty obvious that a 2 year deal is all that he can be offered.

Perfect World - Edler signs for 2 years, $7mil/per, then re-signs for 2 years at $3mil/per.

Perfect Disaster - Edler signs for 3 years, $6mil/per with full NMC. In year 3, he starts to suck, we lose a top 4 D-man in the expansion, and we also have cap issues as Hughes and Petterson are both signing their new contracts, so we lose another player. No thanks to the Perfect Disaster option.
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by SKYO » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:50 pm

I think we might have to go 2 years, $16M contract for Edler here folks.
$8M x 2.

So basically $5.3M x 3 squished into 2 years, thereby he makes mad looch, gets his dough to help retire and we don't have to protect him in the Seattle expansion draft, we can afford it thanks to Petey and Hughes on their lovely ELC's - enjoy it folks it'll only last two more years then MASSIVE PAYDAYS awaits, also why I think we should pay a lot for a two year contracts to some high scoring vets.

And we can only afford to do this thanks to our owners, you racists berry pickin' hatin posters ha.
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Post by micky107 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:50 am

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Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:50 pm
I think we might have to go 2 years, $16M contract for Edler here folks.
$8M x 2.

So basically $5.3M x 3 squished into 2 years, thereby he makes mad looch, gets his dough to help retire and we don't have to protect him in the Seattle expansion draft, we can afford it thanks to Petey and Hughes on their lovely ELC's - enjoy it folks it'll only last two more years then MASSIVE PAYDAYS awaits, also why I think we should pay a lot for a two year contracts to some high scoring vets.

And we can only afford to do this thanks to our owners, you racists berry pickin' hatin posters ha.
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by SKYO » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:59 am

Weaponize cap space and save a dman vs Seattle - while keeping our best dman in the process - no brainer if you rich & got mad cap space thanks to drafting our future CORE on ELC's, that's how it's done son.
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by The Brown Wizard » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:11 am

SKYO wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:50 pm
I think we might have to go 2 years, $16M contract for Edler here folks.
$8M x 2.

So basically $5.3M x 3 squished into 2 years, thereby he makes mad looch, gets his dough to help retire and we don't have to protect him in the Seattle expansion draft, we can afford it thanks to Petey and Hughes on their lovely ELC's - enjoy it folks it'll only last two more years then MASSIVE PAYDAYS awaits, also why I think we should pay a lot for a two year contracts to some high scoring vets.

And we can only afford to do this thanks to our owners, you racists berry pickin' hatin posters ha.
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by micky107 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:02 am

Or a ride home :(
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by micky107 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:31 am

Will Ben Hutton get a new contract with the Canucks?
Does he deserve a raise?
Will he play for the same?
Arbitration?
Negotiate to / for, trade?

Whatever happens, doubt he can use>>>Image <<< on his resume again...
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by SKYO » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:37 am

AND Edler is going to be a UFA.
Rick Dhaliwal:

Doesn’t sound like the #Canucks and Alexander Edler will get a deal done.
Looks like 1 of the best defenseman in franchise history could be hitting the market.
Well an extra $5M hit the market, and our top dman is gone, at least Benning stood his ground on no NMC.
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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by BladesofSteel » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:49 am

Much can happen between now and July 1st.

The objective here is to improve the defence for next year and beyond. If this means moving on from Edler, so be it, but I don’t believe anything until it’s official.

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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by micky107 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:52 am

SKYO wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:37 am
AND Edler is going to be a UFA.
Rick Dhaliwal:

Doesn’t sound like the #Canucks and Alexander Edler will get a deal done.
Looks like 1 of the best defenseman in franchise history could be hitting the market.
Well an extra $5M hit the market, and our top dman is gone, at least Benning stood his ground on no NMC.
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I admit I'm surprised. At the end of the day, you cannot blame Eddy for goin for the home run. Shit, I would.
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Benning must already have a plan. Now it's tense.

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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by SKYO » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am

IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
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Post by Island Nucklehead » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:05 am

BladesofSteel wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:49 am
Much can happen between now and July 1st.

The objective here is to improve the defence for next year and beyond. If this means moving on from Edler, so be it, but I don’t believe anything until it’s official.
Yep. I imagine both sides are comfortable with allowing Edler to interview with other teams once the window opens. Gives him a chance to see if he can get a better deal elsewhere. I don't imagine he'll find many takers on the Expansion Draft trade protection, and if he does, is it a better situation than what the Canucks are offering (stability and community). He's not getting 8-years, so there's not much incentive to sign before July 1.

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Re: Canucks Contracts

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 am

SKYO wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:57 am
IF true, then Tryamkin is coming back in 2020, I see why Zaitsev is a target - Russian facts.
Sure this is happening
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