Canucks Contracts

[Mickey107]

Pretty sure Brock wants 7 or 8 yrs.

Doubtful.

Five years seems to be that sweet spot these days.

Maybe to Brock, five is long? Maybe he's been trying for max term?

Only his hairdresser knows for sure..

[nuckster]

Pretty sure Brock wants 7 or 8 yrs.

Doubtful.

Five years seems to be that sweet spot these days.

Got a mid-summer IPA buzz going with some effervescent 'herb'and we're chattin canuck stuff; I'm figuring that Brock gets 5-6 years at 7.75

On a different note, i am actually excited - looking fwd to this upcoming year, especially after the drudgery we've endured since 2013. Seems to me, that in the grand scheme of things, all our new acquisitions will mean 'didley' if Markstrom doesn't deliver like he did last year. Mind you, IF we have more possession time and really are more offensive, ole Marky will have a little less pressure on him.

Anyways, it'll be an interesting ride. I hope Benning is building on his contract negotiation skills - he had room to fuck up in the past, but now as the 'core' develops, the numbers game gets tighter. In the meantime, it's really awesome that we get to see if Hughes becomes Norris material and maybe EP becomes our Hart Ross and Rocket Richard candidate... or who knows, maybe Boeser.

That's enough of my late summer night van canuck diatribe.
Cheers all

[Mickey107]

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[Cherry Picker]

This is the most important contract Benning has ever had to negotiate. If he gets bent over by Boeser’s agent, the team is screwed when Pettersson and Hughes need contracts in two years. He needs to make a final, fair, well-reasoned, completely justifiable using comparables offer before training camp starts. Then he needs to warn the agent that the offer needs to be signed before training camp begins or it will be off the table and only a lesser offer will be available. Then he can’t blink even if Boeser doesn’t sign and sits out the season. If he gets bent over and increases the offer once the season starts, Pettersson and Hughes will have their game plan, and the Canucks will be hooped. If he sticks to his guns, Pettersson and Hughes will know the situation when it is their turn. If he does a good job getting the kids to sign team friendly deals like Boston seems to always get, he can build a winner. If he caves like Toronto always seems to do, the Canucks will not be able to build a deep roster and will have more difficulty competing long term.

[Cousin Strawberry]

TO made their own bed by enabling johnny pjs to shit all over the isles then run home to his maple laughs sheets.

His teammates all saw the culture of dooshbaggery the leaves are fostering and informed their agents to get they pencils sharpened accordingly.

Before you start in with the yeah butts tuner.....the proof is in that million a goal marshmallow WNs contract and mitch the bitch yanking on dumbass's hair while he slaps another overpayment out of his ass

[Blob Mckenzie]

Hargraves isn't worried. Benning seems to do ok with RFA signings. Its the UFA or pending UFA that grab him by his jet black mane, bend him over and fuck him dry..

[Chef Boi RD]

Benning signed Myers and Ferland below what the moaners expected - $7 to as high as $8 Million the moaners spewed about Myers and $5 Million per year for Ferland

Rousell great signing

Eriksson came from a class of 2016 UFAs who were all BUMS!

The Beagle one irritates me although I believe he will be a great presence in the bottom 6 as this young core develops

Benning is a fucking genius to the bone

[Mickey107]

This is the most important contract Benning has ever had to negotiate. If he gets bent over by Boeser’s agent, the team is screwed when Pettersson and Hughes need contracts in two years. He needs to make a final, fair, well-reasoned, completely justifiable using comparables offer before training camp starts. Then he needs to warn the agent that the offer needs to be signed before training camp begins or it will be off the table and only a lesser offer will be available. Then he can’t blink even if Boeser doesn’t sign and sits out the season. If he gets bent over and increases the offer once the season starts, Pettersson and Hughes will have their game plan, and the Canucks will be hooped. If he sticks to his guns, Pettersson and Hughes will know the situation when it is their turn. If he does a good job getting the kids to sign team friendly deals like Boston seems to always get, he can build a winner. If he caves like Toronto always seems to do, the Canucks will not be able to build a deep roster and will have more difficulty competing long term.

I understand your concern. To some degree, I share it. In particular about the distinguishable necessity, of having Boeser participating from the
onset of training camp. It's important for his psych, and that of his team mates.
I also agree that Benning would be well served by displaying to the rest of the league,(players and rival GMs), that he is no push-over.
However, a player the ilk of Boeser sitting an entire season is not only a unmitigated disaster for the Canucks, but for the NHL as well.
Of note though; Not all player agent's contracts with their clients are the same. I have heard that, many actually (and even from the same
agent) differ. To what degree a player can step in and supercede his representative,s without breaching his contract with him is a private
thing that we just don't know.
For what it's worth, I read that Boeser's is about as easy going as agents go.
You are right to be wary of >>>>>>>wait for it >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 th 3 years from now.

[ESQ]

Maybe to Brock, five is long? Maybe he's been trying for max term?

Only his hairdresser knows for sure..

I think NHL players are finally copying the NBA style of superstar contract - 4/5 years, and maximizing earning potential on the 3rd contract - that's when they'll really hit it out of the park financially.

Mackinnon is the cautionary tale - superstar in the making, locked in too early. Imagine if he'd signed a 4 year deal? It would have been expiring this year, probably doubling his salary for the next 4 years.

I don't think its a coincidence that all of the key RFAs haven't signed, in the same year that NBA UFAs have cashed in like never before - obviously that includes Kawhi, but freakin' Kevin Durant got a 4 year $40 mil contract, when he won't play at all in year one, and the 4th year is a player option!

I wonder if the franchise tagging is something the players will fight for in the next CBA, and that could also influence the RFAs.

[Cousin Strawberry]

If either of the Pod or Hog are the real deal the timing of them stepping in and contributing right away couldnt be better for the organization. They might even be the final pieces coming online at just the right time both on the ice and under the cap limits to push this team into contention.

Theres going to be some seriously fucked up nutcases roaming the streets of vancouver if bennings team wins a cup. Theyre so entrenched in their points of view they would rather the team suck than be wrong. Retards

[Mickey107]

Maybe to Brock, five is long? Maybe he's been trying for max term?

Only his hairdresser knows for sure..

I think NHL players are finally copying the NBA style of superstar contract - 4/5 years, and maximizing earning potential on the 3rd contract - that's when they'll really hit it out of the park financially.

Mackinnon is the cautionary tale - superstar in the making, locked in too early. Imagine if he'd signed a 4 year deal? It would have been expiring this year, probably doubling his salary for the next 4 years.

I don't think its a coincidence that all of the key RFAs haven't signed, in the same year that NBA UFAs have cashed in like never before - obviously that includes Kawhi, but freakin' Kevin Durant got a 4 year $40 mil contract, when he won't play at all in year one, and the 4th year is a player option!

I wonder if the franchise tagging is something the players will fight for in the next CBA, and that could also influence the RFAs.

One would, or should, hope that well before the next CBA talks start, (still up in the air as to when), That it is brought up Sportsnet are not
happy campers, to put it mildly.
They have to hang in for six more years and if you believe the numbers they are throwing out there: over 80 million in losses, then that is something else to worry about because they are specifically, blaming the Canadian franchises and their lack of success
in regards to revenue. NOT ENOUGH PLAYOFF GAMES, may well be connected to that said loss.

The players and their agents must realize the NHL cannot operate in the same financial arena as the NBA, even though some agents cross over.
I know that's not what your saying, your talking about a system whereas the players max their income as fast as they can.
But there is a connection and it is somewhat of a worry, I think.

[SKYO]

If either of the Pod or Hog are the real deal the timing of them stepping in and contributing right away couldnt be better for the organization. They might even be the final pieces coming online at just the right time both on the ice and under the cap limits to push this team into contention.

Theres going to be some seriously fucked up nutcases roaming the streets of vancouver if bennings team wins a cup. Theyre so entrenched in their points of view they would rather the team suck than be wrong. Retards

If that happens it'll be like Toronto when the Raptors finally won a chip, the legions of thousands upon thousands of hidden fans will drown out the then small crowd of grumpies.

[Madcombinepilot]

If either of the Pod or Hog are the real deal the timing of them stepping in and contributing right away couldnt be better for the organization. They might even be the final pieces coming online at just the right time both on the ice and under the cap limits to push this team into contention.

Theres going to be some seriously fucked up nutcases roaming the streets of vancouver if bennings team wins a cup. Theyre so entrenched in their points of view they would rather the team suck than be wrong. Retards

If that happens it'll be like Toronto when the Raptors finally won a chip, the legions of thousands upon thousands of hidden fans will drown out the then small crowd of grumpies.

Think we shoot someone during the parade??

[Chef Boi RD]

In Great Britain ole Doyle Hargreaves would be known as a ‘Sheep-Shagger’.

[Hockey Widow]

I keep telling you all it’s not term or cap. They can get an agreement on that pretty quickly. It’s the structure. Benning doesn’t want Brock having a huge salary in his final year, like 10M. It means Brock then has to be qualified, to keep his rights, at that amount. Now if he has term that takes him into UFA that isn’t such an issue.

I suspect Brock’s agent wants a Meir’s type of deal where Meir’s makes 10+ his final year. Benning addressed that and used Bo’s contract as a comparison. Bo’s final year is a tad under 5M meaning to qualify him is a no brainer. I’ve heard, not sure how totally reliable, that that is the stumbling block right now. Boeser’s side can do a 4 year, average 7 per, with the final year at 10M or a longer deal in the 8-9M range taking him into UFA.

Benning can take the 4 year but wants it structured so Brock is around the 6 M mark at the end of his deal. I haven’t heard what Benning’s position is on a 7-8 year deal.