Canucks Contracts

[Blob Mckenzie]

Yeah, wasn’t calling you asinine. I saw it was a writer from another blog.

While I haven't yet had enough time to complete an exhaustive reading to ensure the below proposed transaction would be in compliance with the provisions of the CBA, it would seem there was a way around getting hit with Luongo's Cap Advantage Recapture:

Canucks could have traded for Luongo avoiding his retirement and allowing him to go on LTIR (which from the reports was what he had intended to go on but was convinced otherwise by the Panthers). Canucks would have then been on the hook for his Paragraph 1 salary and bonuses under the Standard Player's Contract during the LTIR period but could have avoided the Cap Advantage Recapture charges.

Perhaps the Panthers didn't want to do this, but I don't see why they would have any issue with it as Canucks would be footing the bill.

Dude look at who the GM is. He follows the same guy to work every day

[Meds]

Yeah, wasn’t calling you asinine. I saw it was a writer from another blog.

While I haven't yet had enough time to complete an exhaustive reading to ensure the below proposed transaction would be in compliance with the provisions of the CBA, it would seem there was a way around getting hit with Luongo's Cap Advantage Recapture:

Canucks could have traded for Luongo avoiding his retirement and allowing him to go on LTIR (which from the reports was what he had intended to go on but was convinced otherwise by the Panthers). Canucks would have then been on the hook for his Paragraph 1 salary and bonuses under the Standard Player's Contract during the LTIR period but could have avoided the Cap Advantage Recapture charges.

Perhaps the Panthers didn't want to do this, but I don't see why they would have any issue with it as Canucks would be footing the bill.

I had wondered if this was an option a while back, and I couldn't see why it wouldn't be.

If that was an option, and I don't totally get how the LTIR crap works. Just that during the off-season teams can exceed the cap by 10% or something and then the LTIR players get bounced off the overall cap come September or October IF a team is up against the cap ceiling.

Because Luongo's cap hit is less than 10% of the $81.5M cap ceiling it would be a very doable thing for Jimbo to work around.

From that standpoint maybe my prior comments regarding what Hank quoted are in error and this management/ownership group actually does lack the chops to play it savvy. I'm certain that Florida would have been happy to make the trade of Luongo for like a 2024 7th round pick.

Unless of course there is some stupid NHL regulation that would mandate that Louie rehab or what have you in Vancouver and not live in FLA.

[Strangelove]

Once upon a time yours truly was screaming on a fucking Canucks messageboard for fucking Gillis to CBO Luongo.

Thoughts Dude?

[Strangelove]

Canucks could have traded for Luongo avoiding his retirement and allowing him to go on LTIR (which from the reports was what he had intended to go on but was convinced otherwise by the Panthers).

Would you mind linking to those "reports"?

[Cousin Strawberry]

Hank wrote it but pretends to link it to some random shit disturber...

I bet

Yoodle, you are the worst shit disturber I know

I would not bet against it

A fellow shit disturber can smell another shit disturbee a mile away.

Tripping out Mëds was easier when he was like the dude and gillis about Edler.

Its like hes finally on his...Mëds?

[Meds]

Once upon a time yours truly was screaming on a fucking Canucks messageboard for fucking Gillis to CBO Luongo.

Thoughts Dude?

It's true. Oh it's so true.

So was it Gillis who wouldn't or was it Aquabros who nixed it because of the pure dollars it would have cost? I'm going with the latter, because recapture penalties cost nothing, they just make it harder for the current management to do their job. Ownership can sit back and just point a finger at the GM while saving 7 figures worth of cash every year.

Although, at the time, CBO'ing Luongo might have seen like the right move in the long term, it would have precluded the Canucks ever having Bo Horvat as we would have had to keep Schneider as our starter because Luongo would not have been eligible to re-sign with Vancouver.....and I know for a fact that during that window of time where CBO's were permitted there was at least one poster on a f***ing Canucks messageboard who was tossing Panic-Attack Schneider under the bus for his mental health issues on a regular basis.

Your thoughts Blob?

[Meds]

Hank wrote it but pretends to link it to some random shit disturber...

I bet

Yoodle, you are the worst shit disturber I know

I would not bet against it

A fellow shit disturber can smell another shit disturbee a mile away.

Tripping out Mëds was easier when he was like the dude and gillis about Edler.

Its like hes finally on his...Mëds?

Those were the days UDL.

Low and behold now I'm in the camp that is happy we have Special Ed and quite content with his current contract.

By the by, are you insinuating that in a few years The Dude will be hopeful if he hears that Auquman is planning on bringing Gillis back into the fold to replace Benning?

[Cousin Strawberry]

Hank wrote it but pretends to link it to some random shit disturber...

I bet

Yoodle, you are the worst shit disturber I know

I would not bet against it

A fellow shit disturber can smell another shit disturbee a mile away.

Tripping out Mëds was easier when he was like the dude and gillis about Edler.

Its like hes finally on his...Mëds?

Those were the days UDL.

Low and behold now I'm in the camp that is happy we have Special Ed and quite content with his current contract.

By the by, are you insinuating that in a few years The Dude will be hopeful if he hears that Auquman is planning on bringing Gillis back into the fold to replace Benning?

Oh fuck i hope so.

If only Benning hired him to help with contract negotiations...what would the dude do?

Captain Conundrum!

[Meds]

Hank wrote it but pretends to link it to some random shit disturber...

I bet

Yoodle, you are the worst shit disturber I know

I would not bet against it

A fellow shit disturber can smell another shit disturbee a mile away.

Tripping out Mëds was easier when he was like the dude and gillis about Edler.

Its like hes finally on his...Mëds?

Those were the days UDL.

Low and behold now I'm in the camp that is happy we have Special Ed and quite content with his current contract.

By the by, are you insinuating that in a few years The Dude will be hopeful if he hears that Auquman is planning on bringing Gillis back into the fold to replace Benning?

Oh fuck i hope so.

If only Benning hired him to help with contract negotiations...what would the dude do?

Captain Conundrum!

I'm warming up the sacrificial altar as we speak.....may the hockey gods make it happen just for our entertainment.

[Carl Yagro]

Dude warming up to Genius Gilly...

[DonCherry4PM]

Canucks could have traded for Luongo avoiding his retirement and allowing him to go on LTIR (which from the reports was what he had intended to go on but was convinced otherwise by the Panthers).

Would you mind linking to those "reports"?

Here is one. I believe I also heard it listening to Sportsnet 650. You're quite the web sleuth so I'll leave the rest to you.

https://www.tsn.ca/luongo-retires-hitti ... -1.1328964

If you don't think he would have gone the path of an extra $3.6 Million cash without being convinced otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.

[Meds]

Canucks could have traded for Luongo avoiding his retirement and allowing him to go on LTIR (which from the reports was what he had intended to go on but was convinced otherwise by the Panthers).

Would you mind linking to those "reports"?

Here is one. I believe I also heard it listening to Sportsnet 650. You're quite the web sleuth so I'll leave the rest to you.

https://www.tsn.ca/luongo-retires-hitti ... -1.1328964

If you don't think he would have gone the path of an extra $3.6 Million cash without being convinced otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.

From the linked article.....

In 2011, Luongo brought the Canucks the closest any Canadian team has been to a Stanley Cup since 1993...

At this point he loses credibility. Has he forgotten about 1994? A 3-2 game 7 loss on the road is a fair bit closer than a 4-0 game 7 loss at home.

Unless he's saying that the fix was in and the abysmal officiating in that 7th game that was heavily in favour of the Rags was arranged by the league.

I also don't see anything in that article that indicates he had intended to go on, nor do I see anything about any potential trade back to the Canucks and then going on LTIR.

[Cousin Strawberry]

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Unless he's saying that the fix was in and the abysmal officiating in that 7th game that was heavily in favour of the Rags was arranged by the league.

Abso-fuckin-lootley. That mutherfucker Gregson was calling very sketch shit in that 3rd. We were all over them and they were wilting bad. The absurd penalties gave the rags the rest they needed to survive.

Not to mention the weird extra day between 6 and 7 that was a last minute thing. The league was doing everything they could to give that series to them

Cunts

[Meds]

Comment from another blog:

Bettman warned in no uncertain terms there were going to be ramifications for any team that front loaded deals to circumnavigate the last CBA. Gillis & team decided to ignore the warning in pursuit of a cup (good thing) & knowing any possible pay back would be kicked years down the road (bad thing).

Gillis did a lot of good things in pursuit of the cup but almost all of them were meant to push problems further down the road and all of them have come back to haunt the team in multitude of ways, this is just the latest example. Unfortunately, navigating the landmines Gillis’ short term pursuits left behind, is a job this management group does not seem savvy enough to work around.

One comment on the part about Bettman's warning.....

It took him 4 years AFTER Luongo's contract was approved by the NHL to change the rule.

If the league makes rules that are agreed upon by the league itself, all of the owners, GM's, and the PA, then there should not be a scenario in which the league can come back 4 years later and penalize teams for working within those rules, especially when the NHL itself has to rubber stamp all of the contracts.

[Strangelove]

Canucks could have traded for Luongo avoiding his retirement and allowing him to go on LTIR (which from the reports was what he had intended to go on but was convinced otherwise by the Panthers).

Would you mind linking to those "reports"?

Here is one. I believe I also heard it listening to Sportsnet 650. You're quite the web sleuth so I'll leave the rest to you.

https://www.tsn.ca/luongo-retires-hitti ... -1.1328964

"The Panthers actually encouraged Luongo to retire instead of seeking a long-term injury exception"

Yeahno, that link doesn't say "he had intended to go on LTIR".

Lou probably decided to call it a career and wasn't sure as to the which way to go about ending it contract-wise.

Cats: "It would be best for us if you just retired, rather than go the LTIR route."

Lou: "Okay, sure"

You said Canucks could have traded for Luongo... and then LTIRed him.

How do you know Florida gave Vancouver that option?

Perhaps Florida (and Lou) preferred to have the big Luongo Celebration this fall.

If you don't think he would have gone the path of an extra $3.6 Million cash without being convinced otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.

Well if you're right about that I don't know what to tell you.

Other then to say, if he wanted LTIR he could have simply asked at that point for a trade to Vancouver.

Sorry I shat all over your little fantasy narrative there friend...